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May 4, 2010 10:47:03 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: with 1 month

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming & net

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, speakers

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg amazon

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA

PARTS PREFERENCES: by brand or type AMD / ATI

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

MONITOR RESOLUTION: will buy a new monitor separate of this

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: want to play Microsoft flight sim (fsx) on max settings


Please help me choose some parts. I would also like to future proof this as much as possible.

Here is what I got my eye on so far:

$ 100 Case - Cooler Master HAF 922
$30 HSF - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 if overclock
$120 RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3
1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM
$165 GPU - Radeon HD 5770 Video Card
$100 PSU - CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W
$55 HDD-- Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5
$30 DVD/RW - LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW SATA
MOBO ???
CPU ?????

thanks for the help!!!!!!




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May 4, 2010 11:46:20 PM

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Get a 955 (C3) for the CPU
and this mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


That mobo/cpu combo is out of his budget if he is really trying to stay below $750.

What is the max you are willing to spend? That is generally the best place to start so that we can decide if increasing the budget by a little will bring more value to the table. Here is a budget build that I actually have in my wishlist on newegg.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cooler Master Centurion

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Gigabyte mobo

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Asus HD5770

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Corsair 550W PSU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Phenom II X3 730 OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
G.Skill Ram

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Seagate HDD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Arctic Silver thermal grease

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Scythe Katana3 heatsink



The total for that build is like $703. The CPU has very good overclocking headroom as well as the chance that you might be able to unlock the fourth core. The video card is a good one as I think you already know.

Will you be needing to buy Windows 7 as well? Because that would be another $100 basically.

If you were willing to spend a bit more cash, you could either go for a better processor or a better video card like the 5850. But that depends on what your priorities are, whether it be money, gaming, or processor intensive tasks such as video work.
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May 4, 2010 11:53:37 PM

It also might be worth it to go ahead and get the 750W PSU from Corsair seeing as they are priced so close. It's not really necessary for your build but I think you might as well get it just in case you need more power in the future.
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May 5, 2010 12:50:17 AM

A 750ish gaming computer should have a AMD processor in it. I didnt include a DVD drive simply because any 20-35 dollar DVD writer will do.


SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
$54.99

DIAMOND 5850PE51G Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
$304.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
$109.99


Combo : This is a hell of a deal considering the case and PSU are highly rated

Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC "compatible with Core i7/Core i5" Power Supply
Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
$114.98


Combo : This is all you need to game on and it allows you to fit a 5850 into the mix. You may be able to get a different motherboard for a similar price.

GIGABYTE GA-770TA-UD3 AM3 AMD 770 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Athlon II X3 440 Rana 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Desktop Processor Model ADX440WFGIBOX
$160.98

Subtotal: $745.93
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May 5, 2010 1:28:39 AM

Hey antisyzygy!






So you need a computer around $750~ without an OS; should be very easy :) 





Here is what I've whipped up. NewEgg has some crazy deals if you get the newsletters and what not.










CD/DVD Burner: Sony 24X ($20)







Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion ($55 w/ PROMO CODE: EMCYSYR33!!)









CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 @ 3.2 GHz ($160)









Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint 500GB ($55)








Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts 650W ($71 w/ PROMO CODE: EMCYSYR56!!)







RAM Memory: Corsair 4GB DDR3 @ 1333MHz ($95)








Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-770 (with USB 3.0 // SATA 3.0) ($103)








Video Card: XFX ATI Radeon HD 5770 ($153)






Grand Total (w/ Shipping + Taxes): $758.32
Grand Total (w/ REBATES!!!!!!!!!!!): $748.32








You get a 3.2 GHz Quad Core, Lifetime Warranty 5770 Video Card, Lifetime Warranty Corsair RAM, Arguably one of the best Power Supplies, a Motherboard with USB 3.0 and SATA 3.0, an ultra fast hard drive, a beautiful case;


Dude, what more can you want? :) 






If you MUST have an ATI Radeon HD 5850 I'll switch some parts around for you if you want.

gl antisyzygy!
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May 5, 2010 1:36:27 AM

Necromentia said:
Hey antisyzygy!


gl antisyzygy!



You are talking to the wrong person dude.
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May 5, 2010 2:49:02 PM

Necromentia said:
Hey antisyzygy!






So you need a computer around $750~ without an OS; should be very easy :) 





Here is what I've whipped up. NewEgg has some crazy deals if you get the newsletters and what not.







http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/27-118-030-S01?$S180W$


CD/DVD Burner: Sony 24X ($20)





http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/11-129-066-TS?$S180W$

Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion ($55 w/ PROMO CODE: EMCYSYR33!!)






http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/19-103-808-TS?$S180W$


CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 @ 3.2 GHz ($160)







http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/22-152-181-S01?$S180W$

Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint 500GB ($55)






http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/17-371-015-S01?$S180W$

Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts 650W ($71 w/ PROMO CODE: EMCYSYR56!!)





http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/20-145-198-TS?$S180W$

RAM Memory: Corsair 4GB DDR3 @ 1333MHz ($95)






http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/13-128-419-TS?$S180W$

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-770 (with USB 3.0 // SATA 3.0) ($103)






http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/14-150-464-TS?$S180W$

Video Card: XFX ATI Radeon HD 5770 ($153)






Grand Total (w/ Shipping + Taxes): $758.32
Grand Total (w/ REBATES!!!!!!!!!!!): $748.32








You get a 3.2 GHz Quad Core, Lifetime Warranty 5770 Video Card, Lifetime Warranty Corsair RAM, Arguably one of the best Power Supplies, a Motherboard with USB 3.0 and SATA 3.0, an ultra fast hard drive, a beautiful case;


Dude, what more can you want? :) 






If you MUST have an ATI Radeon HD 5850 I'll switch some parts around for you if you want.

gl antisyzygy!



Thanks, that build looks within budget and speced great!!!! One other question I have is what mobo would you rocommend if I decide to to spend $40 more on a I5 750 2.66 GHz.

My top end budget $800
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May 5, 2010 2:58:13 PM

I think an i5 is going to put you way over budget. You are looking at a "budget build", and most of the intel processors/mobos aren't going to fall into that category.

The only way you can afford an i5 is if you skimp on some of the other components. Where did you see that you would only have to pay $40 more for an i5?

You would be better off putting any extra money you have into a better video card IF this is a gaming build. If all you are doing is surfing the web and gaming, their really isn't a point in putting down the extra cash for an i5. Like I said, put it towards a better video card.
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May 5, 2010 3:04:46 PM

First off, sorry mamdouhaww​ad; I posted very late last night and the original post had antisyzygy's name. Kind of weird o_O;;




But yeah; I tried to do my best for $750~






As for an Intel Core i5 build, you think upgrading will be cheap, but it isn't.


1) Core i5 Socket Motherboards cost more for a good USB 3.0 one (+$100~)
2) Core i5 is Triple Channel RAM Memory (meaning 3 slot usage); you go from 4GB to 6GB (+$75~)
3) Core i5 costs more than AMD Phenoms (+$50~)
4) There is little to no difference in gaming going from AMD Phenom to Core i5 and even Core i7







You WILL go over budget easily going to an Intel Core i5 build, but if you require one I'll get you what you want :D 



Sorry again mamdouhaww!
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May 5, 2010 3:06:53 PM

Sorry, my last post would not let me edit it!!! This is what I meant to say.



I would stick with the AMD for $800. It has better value for your uses.

I think the motherboard will also cost a bit more as well. There are some cheaper socket 1156 mobos on Newegg though.

You would be better off putting any extra money you have into a better video card IF this is a gaming build. If all you are doing is surfing the web and gaming, their really isn't a point in putting down the extra cash for an i5. Like I said, put it towards a better video card.





@ Necromantia, Core i5 is not triple channel so that would not add to the cost. But I do agree that a core i5 will put him over budget.
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May 5, 2010 3:32:40 PM

Necromentia said:
First off, sorry mamdouhaww​ad; I posted very late last night and the original post had antisyzygy's name. Kind of weird o_O;;




But yeah; I tried to do my best for $750~






As for an Intel Core i5 build, you think upgrading will be cheap, but it isn't.


1) Core i5 Socket Motherboards cost more for a good USB 3.0 one (+$100~)
2) Core i5 is Triple Channel RAM Memory (meaning 3 slot usage); you go from 4GB to 6GB (+$75~)
3) Core i5 costs more than AMD Phenoms (+$50~)
4) There is little to no difference in gaming going from AMD Phenom to Core i5 and even Core i7







You WILL go over budget easily going to an Intel Core i5 build, but if you require one I'll get you what you want :D 



Sorry again mamdouhaww!



Great and thanks!!

So looks like I'll stick with AMD and ATI! CAn you recommend a mobo that is crossfire too as I might want to run eyefinity down the road! And then I now my budget is higher lol!

Thanks Necromentia
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May 5, 2010 3:44:54 PM

mamdouhawwad said:
Great and thanks!!

So looks like I'll stick with AMD and ATI! CAn you recommend a mobo that is crossfire too as I might want to run eyefinity down the road! And then I now my budget is higher lol!

Thanks Necromentia


The 770 MoBo does not support crossfire. I would NOT recommend going crossfire unless you plan to do it at the get go. By the time most people are ready to upgrade again a new single card will be out you can purchase for minimal amounts more.

Check out my build above, it gives you a 5850, but downgrades the processor a bit to a X3 which is really all you need for gaming. You could Swap a 5770 and a AMD 955 BE and still be within budget if you prefer a better processor. Generally speaking though, gaming builds should base all other components around a graphics card and the 5850 is pretty much the best choice for gaming right now if you dont plan on upgrading your graphics card in the next year to two years.
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May 5, 2010 3:46:50 PM

Well it gets a little bit harder to recommend a mobo with crossfire, because people have varying opinions on how much PCIE bandwith you need for crossfire. Some people say that in order to get good performance, you need x16 and x16 bandwith for both slots.

However most benchmarks show that there is little to no performance difference than if you go with x8 and x8. If you had gone with the i5-750, you would have been forced to go with an x8 x8 mobo because that particular chipset does not support x16 and x16. It just doesn't have that much PCIE bandwith available.

If you don't mind going with x8 and x8, which I guarantee will perform just as well with the video cards you may/may not be crossfiring, I would recommend one of these...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


If you think you must have dual x16, its going to be a bit more expensive, like around $180.



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May 5, 2010 3:51:47 PM

For the record, I also agree with what antisyzygy has said. I think for your purposes, your money would be better spent downgrading your processor choice to an X3 black edition. You might even be able to unlock the fourth core!

If you do that you could probably fit a 5850 in your budget, seeing as it is now $800. That 5850 would rip through any game you throw at it at almost any resolution. The 5850 is what I plan on getting this summer when I do an i5-750 build.
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May 5, 2010 5:16:18 PM

touchdowntexas13 said:
For the record, I also agree with what antisyzygy has said. I think for your purposes, your money would be better spent downgrading your processor choice to an X3 black edition. You might even be able to unlock the fourth core!

If you do that you could probably fit a 5850 in your budget, seeing as it is now $800. That 5850 would rip through any game you throw at it at almost any resolution. The 5850 is what I plan on getting this summer when I do an i5-750 build.


Thanks for the support. For his budget and purpose there really is no reason to get a better processor than a X3 as most games still use 1 to 2 cores for the most part and 3 sometimes. Also, a higher clock is what boosts gaming performance so going for a quad core 2.8 ghz is not as good of a move as going for a triple core 3.0 ghz . If he could extend his budget a hundred or so dollars then I would say go for a quad core Phenom or i5.
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May 5, 2010 5:16:55 PM

agreed. whatever processor he does choose, I think he should go for a modest overclock. That's where the real value and free performance comes in, at least for processors. All of the coolers that have been listed should provide plenty of cooling for an overclock in the 3.2-3.6 GHz range.
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May 12, 2010 12:57:16 AM

Great guys, thanks a million, i will go w/recommended and wish me luck building.
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May 20, 2010 8:37:21 PM

I took the advice of the dude above and got a good computer for under 650! Pretty much similar stuff except the GPU, of course the 58xx series is another 150bux more! That's where the budget lies. LoL
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