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POWERCOLOR AX5850 1GBD5-PPDHG... HELP!

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April 7, 2010 2:26:12 AM

Here is my rig set up:

CPU: Dual core AM2 M2N 5600+ 2.8ghz
RAM: 4gigs of Corsair DDR2 RAM timing 4-4-4-12 (Dual channel setup)
Motherboard: Nvidia M2N-SLI Deluxe
HDD: 150gb, 1000 RPM Western Digital Raptor
Operating System: Windows 7 x64

Currently:
GPU: POWERCOLOR AX5850 1GBD5-PPDHG (Factory OC at 760ghz)
PSU: Thermaltake - 850-Watt TR2 RX

Problem:

I decided to replace my Zotac Nvidia 8800 OC GT because I wanted DirectX 11 support. Also, I was ONLY getting 30 FPS in Battlefield Bad Company 2 (BFBC2) on the Medium setting. So I did some research on Tomshardware and discovered that an ATI 5850 GPU would be the best bang for my buck.

I was very hesitant to purchase an ATI card because I've never had a problem with Nvidia plus my motherboard is Nvidia...

Anyways, I installed the Powercolor 5850, and yes, also plugged in the two PCI-E connectors. I then installed the newest Catalyst 10.3 drivers. I used FRAPS to monitor my FPS while playing BFBC2.

Main problem: BFBC2 can be on any setting for example: 1920x1080 with everything maxed and I get an adverage of 35-38 FPS while playing. I can also put it on the lowest setting, example: 1024x1068 and all settings on low and I still get 30-38FPS! WTF!

This is a brand new Windows install so I don't have a virus or anything like that.

Is this card defective? I'll be testing it in my bros PC on 4/8/2010 however, he has a dragon setup with a quad core.

I believe the problem may be my CPU but I'm not sure... Can anyone help me out? :D 

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April 7, 2010 2:53:37 AM

You answered your own question. Your cpu bottle necked.
BC bf2 benefits from 4 cores in testing.
http://www.techspot.com/article/255-battlefield-bad-com...
At 2.8ghz your also a little underpowered.
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April 7, 2010 2:54:29 AM

Was the fresh install before or after you replaced your GPU?
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April 7, 2010 2:55:00 AM

True but that doesn't explain, WORSE performance than his previous card.
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April 7, 2010 2:57:12 AM

AMW1011 said:
True but that doesn't explain, WORSE performance than his previous card.

He was playing in dx10 or dx9 , but definitely not dx11 which he's doing with the 5850.
And 30 is not the same as 38
edit: Why not try playing in dx 10- not sure how to force that at the moment, I'm sure there is a way.
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April 7, 2010 3:04:18 AM

AMW1011 said:
Was the fresh install before or after you replaced your GPU?


Actually both. I had the Nvidia GPU installed originally with Nvidia drivers. I uninstalled the Nvidia GPU and divers then installed the ATI GPU and 10.3 drivers. I was getting bad performance and thought it was a driver conflict issue so, I did a fresh install. The fresh install with only the ATI GPU and fresh 10.3 drivers.

Man, I can't afford a new CPU! I have AM2 board which means I'll have to do a rebuild and go with AM3 mobo, cpu, and DDR3 ram!


SIDE NOTE: BFBC2 DirectX is set to AUTO.
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April 7, 2010 3:08:14 AM

I found how to change to dx9 or dx10
C:\Users\*you*\Documents\BFBC2

Go to the folders My Documents->BFBC2

Go open settings.ini with notepad or some text editor.

Change value of DxVersion = Auto to DxVersion = 9

Save the ini file.
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April 7, 2010 3:19:29 AM

notty22 said:
I found how to change to dx9 or dx10
C:\Users\*you*\Documents\BFBC2

Go to the folders My Documents->BFBC2

Go open settings.ini with notepad or some text editor.

Change value of DxVersion = Auto to DxVersion = 9

Save the ini file.


I made the changes to Dx9 and using High settings I still get 35FPS. I turned the settings to LOW with 1920x1080 and now I'm getting 45-50FPS.

Maybe I should return the card if I can't utilize it. What do you guys think?
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April 7, 2010 3:24:32 AM

From reading others and my own experience, I can run a modified profile.
Disable HBOA, that uses alot of power, maybe cpu cycles.

[WindowSettings]
Width=1680
Height=1050
Fullscreen=true
RefreshRate=59.883251
VSync=false
[Sound]
Quality=medium
VoipEnable=true
[Graphics]
Effects=high
Soldiers=medium
Vehicles=medium
Overgrowth=medium
Undergrowth=medium
StaticObjects=medium
Terrain=medium
Shadows=low
Bloom=true
HSAO=false
MSAA=1
Water=high
MainQuality=custom
Texture=medium
DxVersion=auto
Aniso=1
Detail=medium


Thats what I use with a 4770 and I get around 44
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April 7, 2010 3:40:31 AM

So, now that we know what's wrong here is my next question. What should I do?

Option 1: Return the $300 GPU and use that money to get a new AM3 Quad Core Processor, DDR3 RAM, and Mobo.

Option 2: Keep the GPU because newer games won't be as CPU demanding as BFBC2... (far fetched?)
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April 7, 2010 3:44:10 AM

Try running 3dmark Vantage, that will give you a graphics score.
You can see if the gpu measures up.
3dmark 06 is more cpu influenced , your number will definitely appear low because of your cpu.
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April 7, 2010 4:19:01 AM

Sadly the Asus BIOS does not support newer processors, but according to AMW1011 it can work. If you are afraid to flash you BIOS or you can just get new stuff. I would flash your BIOS and upgrade you processor. If you don't want to you could get a new athlon II x4 and a mobo that supports ddr2 memory most likely an older am2+ board or you can just get new ddr3 memory. The first option comes in around $200 depending on the mobo. The second option comes to around $300 depending on the mobo and memory you pick

A very nice mobo

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or if you plan to use a single card this or another 770 board

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Athlon II 630 or 635 or 425, 435, 440 if you really wan to save money

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

You could always take you chances with a phenom II and attempt to unlock the cores

Phenom II 550, 555 or 720- The 720 you will need to also purchase a heatsink or the one you have on you amd 5600+ should fit, in that case you will need some thermal paste.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

normal edition- also available in black

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Black edition-555

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory- g skill ripjaws or eco or whatevers good that they have in stock

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Total ends up around $300 for all three parts


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April 8, 2010 3:46:56 AM

Thanks for all the help everyone. I've spoke to Newegg and they have agreed to wave the restocking fee on the 5850, if... I do a rebuild on my system.

So, I have approximately $430.00 to spend on an AM3 setup. I would like to do a Dragon setup if possible. I don't really care to do Crossfire setup or have 2x PCI-E slots on the mobo, 1x PCI-E would be fine.

What I need:

AM3 Motherboard

Note about Mobo: I really like ASUS b/c Express Gate technology, USB 3.0 would be sweet, must be expandable to 16gb RAM. If you find a cheaper better brand feel free to post it. MUST HAVE OPTICAL OUT.

A quad core AM3 processor

DDR3 RAM

ATI GPU possibly 5770

Can you guys suggest a build based on a $430.00 budget that will play BFBC2 at 50-80FPS? Finally, all components must be found at Newegg.com

Thanks so much for all the help and support!
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April 18, 2010 8:46:05 AM

Best answer selected by kr00lplatinum.
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