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New Gaming PC $3500 need help and advice 4 Building This rig

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May 5, 2010 2:20:18 AM

I think I need to write these first :) 

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE : When I get the answer from you guys I need it fast even if today

BUDGET RANGE: $3000-$3500 (Which is all my money....)

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Optical drive , keybord , mouse , headset , mic and a case.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg ofcourse

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN : UAE , Dubai

PARTS PREFERENCES: Intle , nvidia , kingston , cosiar , asus gigabyte , msi and evga.

OVERCLOCKING: Yes , SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1200 or higher I am using LCD SONY TV

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:

For the last 8 month I was w8ing for the best time to buy a new gaming pc .......

and I thing this is the time :sarcastic:  .....but I am not really that sure if what I have chose from hardwares is the best chose I have.... I need a gaming pc and I am going need to use it for overclocking...... What I need from you ITs imba ppl is ur advice and If there somingthing I need to changh...... here is my hardwares:

1- CPU : Intel Core i7-980X Extreme Edition { I think I don't need to change this}
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2- GPU : SLI 2x GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB { well I am afraid of the heat which 90c :pfff:  and I wanna know if 2 of these better or 1x 480 ftw version which is wc gpu}
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


3- RAM :G.SKILL Trident 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 2000mhz triple channel { Its cheep and fast }
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4-Motherboard : ASUS Rampage III Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 { which its easy for overclock and best for gamin I think.. I don't know which better this one or Gigabyte the latest x58 u7}
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

5-SSD : Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC256MAG-1G1 2.5" 256GB { very fast reading I want to install windows 7 64bit here }
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

6-PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 { well I may use SLI so I am going to need this in 240~ v cuz I live in dubai}
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

7-OS: Windows 7 64 bit

8- Router:NETGEAR WNDR3700-100NAS IEEE {I use broadband 16mg }
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

9-WC : CORSAIR Cooling Hydro Series CWCH50-1 120mm High Performance CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

10- Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

11-Headset :Logitech G35 USB 2.0 Surround Sound Headset:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

.....I really need your help guys need advice and I need to know what must I change if there is something that need to

Thank you very much for reading have a nice day :hello: 
May 5, 2010 2:23:43 AM

I thought Newegg doesn't do international shipping :/ 

May have to find another site for your area friend, unless someone else says otherwise.
May 5, 2010 2:38:36 AM

3500 is a MASSIVE budget. Are you sure you want to spend that? You can get an awesome system for 1200 bucks.
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May 5, 2010 2:44:21 AM

antisyzygy said:
3500 is a MASSIVE budget. Are you sure you want to spend that? You can get an awesome system for 1200 bucks.


Being that he's from Dubai, currency may not be in USD. Using a Dirham (which is currency in United Arab Emirates) to USD converter, 3500 Dirhams come out to about 950 USD
May 5, 2010 2:50:38 AM

143miah said:
Being that he's from Dubai, currency may not be in USD. Using a Dirham (which is currency in United Arab Emirates) to USD converter, 3500 Dirhams come out to about 950 USD


But look at the components he picked!
May 5, 2010 6:42:48 AM

143miah said:
I thought Newegg doesn't do international shipping :/ 

May have to find another site for your area friend, unless someone else says otherwise.



I am going to open address with DHL thay can ship it :) 
May 5, 2010 10:32:48 AM

Nice CPU and nice motherboard. Don't know much about that liquid cooler, but if you do, so be it.

I know it's hot in Dubai, but you have airconditioning and two GTX 480's in SLI is much better than two GTX 470's. Don't be afraid of the heat. If you want to do two GTX 480's, you will need a 1000W power supply. Get the Corsair 1000W.

Otherwise, a nice build. Very jealous!
May 5, 2010 12:51:08 PM

I understand you have the money and want to spend it. Personally, I would recommend you to choose a less expensive CPU, like a 930, but if you want bragging rights, I am OK with it.
My feedback:
1 - consider more power if you want to OC a 980x and 2 x 470. 850W are OK, but just OK. Get a 1000W Corsair.
2 - in a system like that, I would get some serious WC, specially considering you live in Dubai. H50 is very good for a 930 OCed to some 3.3Ghz or so, but it won't handle the heat of OCed 980x. Besides, H50 blows hot air inside you case. My previous experience with Swiftech WC stuff was great, but check other brands as well, like Koolance.
3 - As of your GPUs, I would prefer 2 x 5870 insteado of 2 x 470. Less heat, Eyefinity, and Powercolor has them with waterblocks installed, should you decide to go WC.
4 - you said you don't need a case. Wich one do you already have? The system you are putting together is very huge and generates a lot of heat. You gotta have something good. Also, remember that just after releasing its hotter-than-the-surface-of-the-sun new cards, nVidia "certified" a couple of cases as the ones able to provide appropriate air flow (HAF 932 and Element V are two of them). If you decide to WC, try to find a case that can handle a 3x120mm rad.

Anyway, you have the money for building a great system. Enjoy!
May 5, 2010 3:03:14 PM

With that budget you could go 3screen 3d.
May 5, 2010 3:38:57 PM

I want you budget lol. I'd go with a full tower case bud, antec 1200 or haf 932. Or something big like that. Go for ATI!
May 5, 2010 3:43:36 PM

hunter90 said:
I think I am going to get gtx 480 superclocked sli........
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

but I am afraid of the heat :??:  in dubai its not that hot btw in my house the temp is lower than 18c :D 

but If I am going to get gtx 480 sli which PSU should I get? since just one gtx 480 minimum power need is 600w.

and If I get this case is my hardware going to fit?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I'd go with a good 850w power supply just to be safe since you'll be overclocking.

Something like the Corsair 850-TX or 850-HX.
May 5, 2010 5:16:33 PM

GAAAAH! Seriously, you need at least a 1000W power supply for your system. The following is from an article where they tested power consumption in an GTX 480 SLI system.

"For anyone running a 2-Way SLI GTX 480 setup, we would suggest no less than a 800 watt power supply of good quality and surely we suggest a 1000 watt if you are overclocking anything in your system."

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/03/26/nvidia_fermi_...
May 5, 2010 5:26:03 PM

He's right although thats a stupid website.
May 5, 2010 6:47:49 PM

i_hate_flying said:
GAAAAH! Seriously, you need at least a 1000W power supply for your system. The following is from an article where they tested power consumption in an GTX 480 SLI system.

"For anyone running a 2-Way SLI GTX 480 setup, we would suggest no less than a 800 watt power supply of good quality and surely we suggest a 1000 watt if you are overclocking anything in your system."

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/03/26/nvidia_fermi_...



Thank you my friend for u r advice and I am going to get 1000w but what is the best 1000w or one of the best PSU I can get?

I found these four PSU btw :

1- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

well I think option 2 is the best for the value ..
May 5, 2010 7:43:03 PM

If I had $3500 budget I would put a down paymnt on a new car lol
May 5, 2010 7:45:13 PM

Reyesx said:
If I had $3500 budget I would put a down paymnt on a new car lol


Yes. There is no reason to spend that much on a gaming PC.
May 5, 2010 10:30:03 PM

I have your option number 3, the Corsair 1000W, and I would buy it again and again. A good, reliable power supply is a very key component in building a system. So many hardware failures and problems can be traced back to a failing or suboptimal power supply that it is completely worth it to spend extra money on a good one. If it fails, it can damage anything it's connected to. A 100 dollars to me is an hour of work, so I would not hesitate in the least to spend that on piece of mind. I also have built 3000-3500 dollar gaming systems in the past, so I know exactly where you are coming from. Hell, I bought an Alienware gaming laptop for 3500 bucks back in 2003 that barely lasted three years. Never do that, by the way. Never a gaming laptop.

Most of these guys here are building gaming systems for 700-1000 bucks because that's all the money they have or all the money the wife will let them spend. But many of them build a new rig every 18 months or two years so it evens out. They tend to get a little jealous and say that anything more is a waste. But I know you, you want quality, you want power, you want something that will last and you won't have to upgrade or mess with for the next several years. You have the money and you know what you want. Don't listen to those guys telling you it's a waste, the rest of us are here to help you out.
May 5, 2010 11:00:19 PM

antisyzygy said:
Yes. There is no reason to spend that much on a gaming PC.



Well I am not only going to use it for gaming :)  I am using java , after effect . sony vega , graphic design and way many other software that need high performance, but I said gaming only cuz I am a HIGH FAN of gaming and I am sick of my pc that shutdown every 30min ;) 
May 5, 2010 11:12:13 PM

i_hate_flying said:
I have your option number 3, the Corsair 1000W, and I would buy it again and again. A good, reliable power supply is a very key component in building a system. So many hardware failures and problems can be traced back to a failing or suboptimal power supply that it is completely worth it to spend extra money on a good one. If it fails, it can damage anything it's connected to. A 100 dollars to me is an hour of work, so I would not hesitate in the least to spend that on piece of mind. I also have built 3000-3500 dollar gaming systems in the past, so I know exactly where you are coming from. Hell, I bought an Alienware gaming laptop for 3500 bucks back in 2003 that barely lasted three years. Never do that, by the way. Never a gaming laptop.

Most of these guys here are building gaming systems for 700-1000 bucks because that's all the money they have or all the money the wife will let them spend. But many of them build a new rig every 18 months or two years so it evens out. They tend to get a little jealous and say that anything more is a waste. But I know you, you want quality, you want power, you want something that will last and you won't have to upgrade or mess with for the next several years. You have the money and you know what you want. Don't listen to those guys telling you it's a waste, the rest of us are here to help you out.




I have checked also reviews for the corsair 1000w and now I am way convinced to pick it up. so much thanking to you m8 :)  u r way help
May 5, 2010 11:29:01 PM

With your large budget I would recommend 2x 5870 over 2x gtx 470 or 2x 480 becuase of the heat issues with these cards. Also you go for 1 5970 or even 2 if you didn't spend so much on the cpu
May 6, 2010 12:48:07 AM

Hi,

I had a large budget too and this is what i purchased last week:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/forum2.php?config=t...

Check the last few posts, it has the specs on my final build. It is being shipped tomorrow. I spent alot of time researching it and it might be good just to take a look. You can scale up or down some of the items to reach your budget.

I just
good luck

:bounce:  :bounce:  :bounce: 
May 6, 2010 1:27:51 AM

1- CPU : Intel Core i7-980X Extreme Edition

Can do most of what that can do w/ an overclocked 930 but, hey if ya got the money, the 980 will go higher.

2- GPU : SLI 2x GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB
I'd get this one but a 480 is no problem w/ a big enough case and PSU
Asus ENGTX470/2DI/1280MD5 GTX 470 (Fermi) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3- RAM :G.SKILL Trident 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 2000mhz triple channel { Its cheep and fast }
Why go cheap w/ a $3500 budget ....and CAS9 isn't fast doesn't make sense w/ a $1000 CPU. Unless you plan a overclock way past BCLK of 200, I wouldn't consider anything past DDR3-1600 and use CAS 6 w/ a $1000 CPU
Mushkin Enhanced Redline 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 Model 998805
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


4-Motherboard : ASUS Rampage III Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58
Killer board .... the one I'll put in next build. Nothing else even comes close.


5-SSD : Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC256MAG-1G1 2.5" 256GB { very fast reading I want to install windows 7 64bit here }
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820148349


6-PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2
You'll want an 850HX or one of these:

For comparison purposes , the list below contains performance ratings (10 scale) at jonnyguru.com / prices as per newegg on 02/21/2010 and ones w/ double asterisks (**) made it onto silentpcreview.com's Editor's Choice List meaning they excelled at both electronic and acoustic performance:

Antec SG-850 - 10.0 ($220) **
Antec CP-850 - 10.0 ($110) **
XFX 850W Black Edition 10.0 ($185)

personally, I'd do this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article971-page7.html
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

Go bigger wattage if doing 480's

7-OS: Windows 7 64 bit
Cool

8- Router:
D-Link DGL-4500 IEEE 802.3/3u, IEEE 802.11a/b/g, IEEE802.11n Draft Xtreme N Gaming Router
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

9-WC : CORSAIR Cooling Hydro Series CWCH50-1 120mm High Performance CPU Cooler
Gimmick....Get the Megahalems
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8807/cpu-pro-01/Proli...
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7038/thr-41/Innovatio...
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10026/fan-639/Scythe_...
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8418/cab-150/FrozenCP...

10- Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5
Takes 200 hours to cure....see bottom of page here:
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

pick a TIM from the top few here:
http://www.hwreviewlabs.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/therma...
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

Suggest IC Diamond 7 karat or OCZ Freeze
May 6, 2010 6:38:41 AM

I would also get a ProlimaTech Megahalems CPU cooler if I were you, it is THE de facto cooling solution today. Nothing else comes close. I had never seen that Corsair liquid CPU cooler before, so I thought maybe it was something new and you knew something the rest of us didn't :) 
May 6, 2010 7:18:43 AM

I dont think its bad your spending this much lol, if you got the dough, spoil yourself. It would be awesome feeling of satisfaction. Good luck and let us know how it goes brother!
May 6, 2010 7:57:46 AM

The router that JackNaylorPE is recommending also looks much better than the one you've chosen. I would get his recommendation.
May 6, 2010 10:43:46 AM

First Thank you so much JackNaylorPE u advised me in every piece that I picked and I think it took time for u to bring all these site.. I have checked it all.... much appreciate it ty ;) 

Well I think the RAM JackNaylorPE advice me to is better since it has nice timing and as reviewers says its easy to OC to 2000mhz but when it comes to review between the G.SKILL Trident 6GB and Mushkin Enhanced Redline 6GB the G.SKILL is winner also G.SKILL is known brand.....{If someone can confirm to me which I pick? :)  }

For the WC I think I am going to take u r advice here too guys :)  I'll just get a ProlimaTech Megahalems since I don't have many info about WC and I am afraid of pips leaking... but the problem with ProlimaTech Megahalems its big and I don't know if its going to fit in this case : {which I think is my last question here}
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For the Thermal Compound I'll just stick to Arctic Silver 5 cuz I didnt find IC Diamond 7 karat or OCZ Freeze in newegg.

And the router I'll just keep with NETGEAR.

Well after I get from u guys the last info I need I am going to post all the changhed after u r advices :) 

Thank you again ^_^
!