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Is ATI radeon 5450 a gaming card

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April 7, 2010 11:13:46 AM

Hi Guys...........Is ATI 5450 a gaming card...........I heard its very cheap and all.........
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April 7, 2010 11:29:36 AM

No, I definitely would not call it a gaming card. But, it is capable of playing games. Unfortunately, it will struggle with many of the newer, 3D intensive games. But, reducing detail levels and resolution will often allow it to play them, though sometimes just barely.

Here's a link to Tom's review of it:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5450,2549...

For comparison, here's the review of the 5670:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5670,2533...
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April 7, 2010 12:35:51 PM

It is more of a desktop graphics card. You can play older games on it and possibly newer titles at low res and low settings. However, if you have a choice and are in the market for a card. I would be looking much higher on the totem pole than a 5450.
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April 7, 2010 2:17:01 PM

Nope.

Minimum HD 5xxx for light gaming would be the HD 5570 which is about as powerful as the older HD 4670.

HD 5670 is roughly 25% more powerful than the HD 4670 / HD 5670.

HD 5750 is about the same as the older HD 4850.
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April 7, 2010 2:34:06 PM

newzealend said:
I heard its very cheap and all.........

Cheap = Disappointment
Value = Happiness

please meditate on these concepts young grasshoppa.
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April 7, 2010 2:54:50 PM

I had booked Sapphire HD 5670 512 mb card for 1024 X 768 resolution gaming........ This 5450 is for my friend..........he has a colermaster PSU of 550 W and Intel DG31PR motherboard.........he has tight budget of 50 $...........He was asking about the performance of HD 5450 and Nvidia 9400 GT.............
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April 7, 2010 3:01:39 PM

jay2tall said:
Cheap = Disappointment
Value = Happiness

please meditate on these concepts young grasshoppa.

+1. I thought this was funny. Happiness is also better than disappointment.
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April 7, 2010 3:25:55 PM

1024x768 gaming is very much dependent on the CPU, not the GPU. Without a good CPU, a great GPU will not be much better than a good GPU.

5450 and 9400GT are not very good for gaming, even at low resolution. GT240, 4670, 9600GT, and 5670 are all much better for gaming. Again, performance difference is not very much with a slow CPU at low resolution.

Can you please list the rest of your system's specs, and your friend's system too?
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April 7, 2010 3:46:42 PM

newzealend said:
I had booked Sapphire HD 5670 512 mb card for 1024 X 768 resolution gaming........ This 5450 is for my friend..........he has a colermaster PSU of 550 W and Intel DG31PR motherboard.........he has tight budget of 50 $...........He was asking about the performance of HD 5450 and Nvidia 9400 GT.............

$50 won't get you very far. Here is my valued opinion, not cheap opinion. Please do not be offended by my comments. but people constantly come on this site with a budget and won't deviate when $20 could mean a huge difference. $20? how much is that? 2 trips to the sandwich shop? eat a PB&J for 2 days instead. Or don't drive around aimlessly.

Thoughts:
1) for $70 you can get a 4670 that will be MUCH better than a 5450: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2) For $84 you can have a 5670 512MB which would be even BETTER: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3) for $120 you can get a 5750 which is FAR FAR better performance that a 5450 EVERY would give you. Plus I would HOPE he is looking to get a new monitor because who really wants to game at 1024x768? I can even use a desktop that small to browse the internet. This promo ends tomorrow and is a steal! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As mentioned above it is CPU dependent, but according to that motherboard it is an LGA775 so he would have anything up to a core2quad in there. So I would hope its a Core2 or dual core pentium at least.
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April 7, 2010 4:20:35 PM

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1024x768 gaming is very much dependent on the CPU, not the GPU. Without a good CPU, a great GPU will not be much better than a good GPU.

5450 and 9400GT are not very good for gaming, even at low resolution. GT240, 4670, 9600GT, and 5670 are all much better for gaming. Again, performance difference is not very much with a slow CPU at low resolution.

Can you please list the rest of your system's specs, and your friend's system too?

My system specs are
Core 2 duo @ 2.20 Ghz E4500
1 gb ram ( will upgrade to 2 gb soon)
Iball PSU of 400 W
I had booked Sapphire Hd 5670 and will get in a few days..........I had to take 5670 as my PSU is of low quality
monitor resolution 1024 X 768

My friends system specs
Core 2 duo @ 2.20 Ghz E8400
1 Gb ram
Coolermaster PSU of 550 W
monitor resolution 1280 X 1024
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April 7, 2010 4:29:46 PM

Your friend has a more powerful system, but still a somewhat low-resolution monitor. Again, he ends up more on the CPU-dependent scale than GPU dependent. However, it is still advisable to get the most powerful GPU you can afford (within reason).

A 5670 would be a good match for him, also. If he can afford to go better, then a 5750 or 5770 would be excellent choices.

If he cannot go higher and must go lower, then a 4670, GT240, or 9600GT would be the next logical choice. Whichever ones of those is affordable.

If he cannot afford one of them, then I suggest he wait and save some more money because the cards below them do not compare in performance.
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April 7, 2010 4:32:47 PM

RazberyBandit said:
Your friend has a more powerful system, but still a somewhat low-resolution monitor. Again, he ends up more on the CPU-dependent scale than GPU dependent. However, it is still advisable to get the most powerful GPU you can afford (within reason).

A 5670 would be a good match for him, also. If he can afford to go better, then a 5750 or 5770 would be excellent choices.

If he cannot go higher and must go lower, then a 4670, GT240, or 9600GT would be the next logical choice. Whichever ones of those is affordable.

If he cannot afford one of them, then I suggest he wait and save some more money because the cards below them do not compare in performance.

He is planning on getting a 7600 Gt and 8600 Gt................

by the by.............5670 is enough for my system for playing at high settings???.........i would have gone for a 5750 but I dont trust my PSU much
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April 7, 2010 4:38:46 PM

High settings? That depends on the game. It will always depend on the game. Some games are more detailed than others. Some rely on CPU more, while others rely on GPU more.

Your friend should not get a 7600GT or 8600GT. 9600GT is nearly TWICE as good as either of those. 7600/8600 are old and were never very good to begin with, even when they were brand new in 2006/2007.
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April 7, 2010 4:41:18 PM

newzealend said:

My friends system specs
Core 2 duo @ 2.20 Ghz E8400
1 Gb ram
Coolermaster PSU of 550 W
monitor resolution 1280 X 1024


-The e8400 is a 3.0 GHz CPU
- 1GB won't cut it in most gaming applications, it will use the page file in horrible horrible ways and drastically slow things down. Toss 4GB in there.
- PSU is fine
- res is fine and now that i know this I say go for the 5750! tell him to pony up.

If he tosses in 4GB of RAM and a 5750 in THAT system, he won't even know it was his old PC anymore.

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April 7, 2010 4:48:04 PM

^ So true. Like night and day!

Keep going with an aftermarket CPU cooler and some slick OC'ing and like WHOA! [:huntluck:9] <--- He's on fire!
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April 7, 2010 4:48:57 PM

jay2tall said:
-The e8400 is a 3.0 GHz CPU
- 1GB won't cut it in most gaming applications, it will use the page file in horrible horrible ways and drastically slow things down. Toss 4GB in there.
- PSU is fine
- res is fine and now that i know this I say go for the 5750! tell him to pony up.

If he tosses in 4GB of RAM and a 5750 in THAT system, he won't even know it was his old PC anymore.

HD 5750.............Hmm..........looking at the price..........I think his pocket will be torn..........
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April 7, 2010 4:54:34 PM

This is what $50 gets you.

Fun = ++++

This is what $120 gets you?

FUN = +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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April 7, 2010 5:00:13 PM

jay2tall said:
this deal makes it $120 with promo that ends tomorrow. It's a good deal and he won't have to worry about graphics for a while. $50 now will only be disappointing, and more so later.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hmm..............5750 is the only choice he have and a favourable choice...........He has to save each and every penny for this...........He has spent most of his money buying hard disk and nintendo DS...........or he would have got a GTX today.............
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April 7, 2010 5:01:03 PM

Um Jay... They're in India...
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April 7, 2010 5:08:53 PM

RazberyBandit said:
Um Jay... They're in India...

yes..........thats what the problem is...............If i were in US............i would have got a graphic card for 120 $ where in India I have to spend more than RS 10000 to get a decent graphics card.........120 $ would have been like 120 Rs in US..............
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April 7, 2010 5:10:13 PM

RazberyBandit said:
Um Jay... They're in India...

HE said his budget was 50 $. I guess I assumed wrong since the 5450 is $50 USD. Oh well.

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April 7, 2010 5:11:43 PM

newzealend said:
yes..........thats what the problem is...............If i were in US............i would have got a graphic card for 120 $ where in India I have to spend more than RS 10000 to get a decent graphics card.........120 $ would have been like 120 Rs in US..............


I'm just saying he can do better than a 5450. A 4670>5670>5750. You could even throw in a 4850 or GTS 250 in that mix if you wanted to or a 9600GT. There are several last gen cards that would be better than a 5450 for gaming.
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April 7, 2010 5:15:21 PM

jay2tall said:
I'm just saying he can do better than a 5450. A 4670>5670>5750. You could even throw in a 4850 or GTS 250 in that mix if you wanted to or a 9600GT. There are several last gen cards that would be better than a 5450 for gaming.

Thanks jay and Razbery bandit for your support.............I had done an extensive resarch for getting a 5670...............My friend dont know about these performance differences and all..........I hope he gets a good card............. :)  :) 
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April 7, 2010 5:21:19 PM

You're welcome. I hope you both end up gaming happily.
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April 7, 2010 7:01:15 PM

woops my little arrows were wrong it's 4670<5670<5750.

Anyways. I just think spending a little extra will go a long way for your friend. a 5670 like you would do him wonders as well. You may be able to find a 4850 for the same price to.
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April 7, 2010 7:18:00 PM

I would also add that if $50 is his absolute budget and he can't go further than that, do NOT get the 5450, but rather go with an HD4650. It isn't as good as the 4670, 5670 and everything above, but it will destroy a 5450, 9400GT and 9500GT. It's still the best $50 card out there and should do fine at 12x10 resolution in 90% of the games. You certainly aren't going to play Crysis at Ultra detail settings, but medium should net you around 50FPS in even that game.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I understand budgets can be hard to break sometimes, but those $20 increments (to the 4670 then another to a 5670) really net you a LOT more performance. Of course, if you have to stick to the budget and don't need Ultra high detail settings (and honestly, even I don't play on them as my eyes simply don't notice that big of a difference between some of them) then the 4650 is perfect for $50 and 12x10 gaming.
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April 7, 2010 7:37:09 PM

As enlightening as Sensei jay2tall's comments have been, dkapke's summary is solid too; if the budget cannot be busted, a HD4650 is the way to go. Get a DDR3 version if at all possible.

Edit: I added a DDR2 version of the HD4650 to my non-gamer mom's 930D system this weekend. Using her Intel Graphics Media Decelerator, Guild Wars had been a slide show. With the new GPU, the intro screen (as far as I went) was pegged at 60FPS on a 1440x900 display.
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April 7, 2010 8:31:05 PM

I should also add that a 5670 is probably overkill for your system given the 10x7 resolution, but you ought to be able to crank up detail as high as you want in any game at that resolution with the processor you're using. Should you get a bigger monitor, though, at least you'll be covered.

Also...I may have missed it...but you didn't mention what OS y'all are running. I'm going to assume XP because Vista/7 would be dogs with 1Gb of memory. If you are on either, please get another 1Gb of memory whatever you do. If you're on XP, then you'll be fine.
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April 8, 2010 3:59:06 AM

I am using windows XP and he is using both XP and windows 7.......................
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February 25, 2014 7:45:42 AM

newzealend said:
jay2tall said:
I'm just saying he can do better than a 5450. A 4670>5670>5750. You could even throw in a 4850 or GTS 250 in that mix if you wanted to or a 9600GT. There are several last gen cards that would be better than a 5450 for gaming.

Thanks jay and Razbery bandit for your support.............I had done an extensive resarch for getting a 5670...............My friend dont know about these performance differences and all..........I hope he gets a good card............. :)  :) 


hd 5450 isn/t that bad overclock it a bit and you can play all call of duty except bo2 and ghosts at high , hitman absolution at low settings , gta 4 at medium and crysis 2 and 3 at 1024*768 very easily , max payne 3 and ghost recon future soldier also at medium settings , people talk wayyy too much shit about this card .
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