I'm New At This - Couple Wuestions:

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"Super D" <dmsog@charter.net> wrote in message
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>I want to buy a couple of new phones, but not from Cingular. I'm in
> Southeastern CT and it seems like all of the phones I look at on eBay
> won't work in my area according to the Cellmedia search thing that
> works by zip code. Could it be wrong? To my way of thinking, a phone
> locked for Cingular should work anywhere with the right sim card.
> ..and speaking of sim cards, these appear to be location-specific. If
> that's true, can someone tell me the number of the one I need for my
> area?
>

SIM cards are not location specific. These are the things you need to know:

1. GSM or TDMA in your area (most likely it is GSM or both)

2. Frequency of network in your area ... 850 or 1900. To be on the safe
side, get a phone that supports both 850 and 1900 and you will have GSM
service anywhere it is available in the US.

3. You will need to get your SIM from Cingular or an authorized reseller. I
don't think Cingular will reactivate an old SIM.

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"Jiu Jitsuperfly" <jiujitsuperfly@satx.rr.complicated> wrote in message
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> "Hierophant" <nospam@duh.net> wrote in message
> news:zrl1e.73411$5T6.29510@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>>
>> "Super D" <dmsog@charter.net> wrote in message
>> news:e9ob419ihs3pdkmpvf1u2g26si0hpmhuf2@4ax.com...
>>>I want to buy a couple of new phones, but not from Cingular. I'm in
>>> Southeastern CT and it seems like all of the phones I look at on eBay
>>> won't work in my area according to the Cellmedia search thing that
>>> works by zip code. Could it be wrong? To my way of thinking, a phone
>>> locked for Cingular should work anywhere with the right sim card.
>>> ..and speaking of sim cards, these appear to be location-specific. If
>>> that's true, can someone tell me the number of the one I need for my
>>> area?
>>>
>>
>> SIM cards are not location specific. These are the things you need to
>> know:
>
>
> bbbbzzzzzztttttt........wrong answer.
>
> Cingular 64K SIM's are currently market specific. Non-market specific
> SIM's will be available sometime in April.
>

Interesting. My 3 month old phone w/ a new 64k sim works cross-country just
as it did with my old 32k sim

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Per Jiu Jitsuperfly:
>Old SIM's cannot be re-activated. There are lots of new SIM's on eBay
>though.

I think something is starting to dawn on my from the context of various threads
here.

Try this:

"There's nothing burned into a SIM that is 'me-specific'. No provider account
number, no telephone number. The link between me, the SIM, and my provider is
in the provider's DB that has the SIM number and my account number linked".

Does this sound right?
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PeteCresswell

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"Hierophant" <nospam@duh.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Jiu Jitsuperfly" <jiujitsuperfly@satx.rr.complicated> wrote in message
> news:NPn1e.43085$8D.21234@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> "Hierophant" <nospam@duh.net> wrote in message
>> news:zrl1e.73411$5T6.29510@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>>>
>>> "Super D" <dmsog@charter.net> wrote in message
>>> news:e9ob419ihs3pdkmpvf1u2g26si0hpmhuf2@4ax.com...
>>>>I want to buy a couple of new phones, but not from Cingular. I'm in
>>>> Southeastern CT and it seems like all of the phones I look at on eBay
>>>> won't work in my area according to the Cellmedia search thing that
>>>> works by zip code. Could it be wrong? To my way of thinking, a phone
>>>> locked for Cingular should work anywhere with the right sim card.
>>>> ..and speaking of sim cards, these appear to be location-specific. If
>>>> that's true, can someone tell me the number of the one I need for my
>>>> area?
>>>>
>>>
>>> SIM cards are not location specific. These are the things you need to
>>> know:
>>
>>
>> bbbbzzzzzztttttt........wrong answer.
>>
>> Cingular 64K SIM's are currently market specific. Non-market specific
>> SIM's will be available sometime in April.
>>
>
> Interesting. My 3 month old phone w/ a new 64k sim works cross-country
> just as it did with my old 32k sim


Your SIM can be used nationwide however, your particular SIM could not be
activated nationwide. The first 5 digits of the SIM determine the market
that a SIM can be activated in.

Sorry I wasn't clear.


--
JJ

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In article <X2C1e.52702$8D.33835@tornado.texas.rr.com>,
"Jiu Jitsuperfly" <jiujitsuperfly@satx.rr.complicated> wrote:

> "Jack Zwick" <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:jzwick3-28F3E2.05201827032005@news1.west.earthlink.net...
> > In article <NPn1e.43085$8D.21234@tornado.texas.rr.com>,
> > "Jiu Jitsuperfly" <jiujitsuperfly@satx.rr.complicated> wrote:
> >
> >> Cingular 64K SIM's are currently market specific. Non-market specific
> >> SIM's
> >> will be available sometime in April.
> >
> > Why the 6 month delay since the merger? Navas always said integration
> > was easy.
>
>
> This was done intentionally. Unfortunately it did not work as intended.

Please explain how Cingular screwed up.

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"Tropical Haven" <user@example.net> wrote in message
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>
>> Cingular 64K SIM's are currently market specific. Non-market specific
>> SIM's will be available sometime in April.
>
>
> Do you mean regionally or actually market specific (RSA/MSA)? Is there
> any truth to the regions and the 310-410/310-370/310-150 (along with AWS
> 310-380) rumors?
>
> TH
>

Market specific as in the region. Central market is the largest and covers
Texas to Michigan, next is Eastern, Gulf market, and so on. Each has
specific SIM #'s attached and then they are broken down even further into
areas such as Austin numbers, Dallas, Little Rock, etc, etc..

To the second part, the reason they are coded that way is because Cingular
is actually a mish-mash of merged companies.


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JJ

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