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May 7, 2010 7:00:18 AM

I'm currently stuck between two new setups.
I use my PC for any type of gaming, both old titles and new. With that in mind, below are the 2 setups.
1.
Intel Core i7 930
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R Motherboard
GSKILL 6GB 1600 CL8 RAM
$845
2.
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T
Asus Crosshair IV Formula Motherboard
GSKILL 4GB 1600 CL8 RAM
$915
Which one should I get?

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May 7, 2010 7:26:49 AM

There's a form in my signature that you should fill out for more help, as both builds need to be modified, but the i7 build will perform bettre in gaming.
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May 7, 2010 9:59:45 AM

^ i beg to differ
i5 750 will perform better in gaming. as benchies says. i7 are for encoding or rendering. games dosent take advantge of hyper threading. go for a asus p7p55d-e pro. and i5 750. and ati 5850. and a cl7 gskill ripjaws 4gb.

sorry for not posting links of any of these. and they can be found in new egg
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May 7, 2010 10:14:55 AM

xurwin said:
^ i beg to differ
i5 750 will perform better in gaming. as benchies says. i7 are for encoding or rendering. games dosent take advantge of hyper threading. go for a asus p7p55d-e pro. and i5 750. and ati 5850. and a cl7 gskill ripjaws 4gb.

sorry for not posting links of any of these. and they can be found in new egg


I agree, but there is no mention of an i5 in his post. Just an i7 930 and Phenom II 1090T. The 930 will perform better in gaming and it costs less.
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May 7, 2010 12:21:18 PM

jbakerlent said:
I agree, but there is no mention of an i5 in his post. Just an i7 930 and Phenom II 1090T. The 930 will perform better in gaming and it costs less.

The price between the options is odd. The i7 930 cost only $20 less than the 1090T and granting that the ASUS is $20 than the Gigabyte ( based on newegg ) the price of the CPU+mobo will only be $40 higher. This should be offset by the additional stick of RAM. Where does the $60 price difference came from?
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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May 7, 2010 2:01:11 PM

I vote for i7 930 is you want to use mainly for gaming.
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May 7, 2010 2:40:41 PM

In general both would work great, the AMD would be the one I would select though as the MB selected is better.
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May 7, 2010 2:49:32 PM

i7-930 for sure. The AMD X6 is not a good gaming CPU.
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May 7, 2010 3:18:15 PM

Unless you're really set on one of those two specific processors, I think you'd get better performance out of either an i5-750 or a Phenom II X4 955 BE.

Of the two options presented, the i7-930 is a better gaming processor, but I think the AMD motherboard has more features & is a little better overall.

Given a little more latitude in choice, I'd go for a Phenom II X4 955 BE and the Crosshair IV mobo, which should come in under the i7-930.

Phenom II X4 955 BE - $160
Asus Crosshair IV Formula - $230
G.Skill Ripjaws 4 GB 1600 MHz CL7 - $120

Total - $510 (assuming US prices)

This would give you equivalent/better gaming performance than the 1090T at a much lower price than the i7-930.

Alternatively, an i5-750 build would also cost less than the 930 and game well, though the 1156 socket is a little more limited than either AM3 or 1366.

i5-750 - $200
Asus Maximus III - $200
G.Skill Ripjaws 4 GB 1600 MHz CL7 - $120

Total - $520 though the mobo only supports dual cards at x8/x8.
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May 7, 2010 3:32:30 PM

i7-930's are only $199 at Microcenter if you can get to one. That and the GA-X58-UD3R (also $200) will crush any i5 or AMD available, especially if you OC. (~400 total)

Next best would be an i5-750. I would say you go cheaper on the mobo, the P7P55D is a good one. I've had really good luck with a Biostar T5XE I got from Fry's.com. (~280 total)

Lastly, a 955 with a GA-790XTA-UD4 is a solid performer. (~285)

Then of course you need to add RAM.... The G.Skills coldsleep listed above are excellent!
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May 7, 2010 3:35:16 PM

OP, What video card are you going to put in this? That should realy determine the rest of your budget for a gaming rig.
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May 7, 2010 3:42:11 PM

The thing is, at any reasonable resolution, processor matters very little. Or at least not nearly as much as people seem to worry about.

See, for example, this 955 vs. i5-750 chart at anandtech. The only game benchmark where the i5 is significantly ahead is Far Cry 2. The rest of the gaming benchmarks are within a few fps. At higher resolutions/detail, the graphics card is going to matter much, much more than what processor you have.
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May 8, 2010 5:20:50 AM

Thanks to everyone for posting replies.
To answer some of your questions.
I was considering getting an if 750 at the start, but then researched and found out, in the future, Intel is keeping the 1366 socket, and bringing out 6 core. The 1156 socket is staying at quad core. So, for a bit more, I'm safe for the near future.
And my current graphics card is a Gigabyte GTX260 OC. Maybe change in six months or so to an ATI 5850 or equivalent.
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May 8, 2010 6:11:51 AM

Ritz61190 said:
Thanks to everyone for posting replies.
To answer some of your questions.
I was considering getting an if 750 at the start, but then researched and found out, in the future, Intel is keeping the 1366 socket, and bringing out 6 core. The 1156 socket is staying at quad core. So, for a bit more, I'm safe for the near future.
And my current graphics card is a Gigabyte GTX260 OC. Maybe change in six months or so to an ATI 5850 or equivalent.


Keeping the 1366 hahaha NO they are not. they are moving on in 2011 with the 2011 socket and 1155.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Sandy_Bridge_(microarchitecture)
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May 8, 2010 10:08:38 PM

Quote:
new-egg is a great place to read reviews.


I like professional reviews.
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May 9, 2010 12:44:28 AM

jbakerlent said:
I like professional reviews.

I read both professional and customer reviews. Professional reviews will give the performance based on benchmarks and specific criteria but they may show only what they wanted to show so you have to read multiple professional reviews. Customer reviews on the other hand may offer more honest to goodness reviews. Yes, they maybe subjective also and any negative comment maybe attributed to the reviewers lack of knowledge or mistake so just need to filter those out.
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May 9, 2010 2:05:06 AM

Back to the subject...

Honestly, I'd go with AMD for a gaming PC if I were you. Sure, a lot of Intel's overprices CPU's can beat AMD into the dust, but the graphics cards you selected would bottleneck either choice. AMD AM3 Motherboards, though, have IMO a LOT more features than most LGA1366 Motherboards do, and are cheaper, too. Triple Channel RAM doesn't even have that much boost over Dual Channel, either, if I've heard right.

If I were you, I'd go with a Phenom II x4 965 (125w C3 Stepping!!) over a 955 since you have the budget for it. I don't care what anyone thinks or says here, but I can guarantee you that the 965 has better overclocking headroom than the 955. If you disagree, show me some benchmarks and then I might listen. :)  If you went with a faster four-core model over the slower hexa-core, you'd actually be gaining performance since most games will run better with a faster clock speed than they would with more cores.

Secondly, call me crazy, but is there any need for that expensive of a motherboard? I'd personally suggest the MSI 790FX-GD70 for you... It's capable of running quad CFX at x8, and dual at x16, which both would make much more of a difference than the few FPS you gain from having a motherboard that costs something like $70 more.

You'd certainly get a lot more gaming performance if you'd downgrade the motherboard and get a PII x4 965/955, and get a better graphics card such as the HD 5870 or Twin 5770's in CFX. I personally no reason whatsoever to get a motherboard that expensive, and a graphics card that would bottleneck the whole system. The GD70 I'm using right now has the exact same Crossfire specs, and I've been running it for 4 months since I've bought it so far at 4.0ghz with a PII X4 965, and it hasn't failed me a single time.

Just my few words of advice... I'm sure someone's going to come along and flame on me for not wanting to spend as much money as possible, but I'm just trying to tell people that the processor/mobo aren't always the most important things in a build... :) 

Just my two cents plus a small book of writing... good luck, though.
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May 9, 2010 9:37:16 PM

Another piece of information.
I am currently running and Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 OCed to 3.2GHz
Will I notice a huge difference by upgrading to any of these choices?
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May 11, 2010 5:55:21 PM

^ yeah. if your reffering to productvity with the i7 930. then NO if your in gaming. maybe. a slight. a core 2 duo handles some games right now at a good level. and games rely on gpu more. suggest geting a 5850
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May 12, 2010 10:17:15 AM

Ritz61190 said:
Another piece of information.
I am currently running and Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 OCed to 3.2GHz
Will I notice a huge difference by upgrading to any of these choices?

Looking at your full configuration below, I would say you already got a decent CPU/Graphics Card combo.

Intel Core 2 Duo OCed to 3.2GHz
Gigabyte P35-S3
4GB DDR2 Corsair/Kingston
Zalman CNPS7000ALCU CPU Cooler
Gigabyte GTX260
Seagate 1TB & 320GB
Lancool Dragonlord K62
Viewsonic VG2021m - 1400x1050

If you really want gamechanging upgrade, you should consider replacing your Monitor which at only 1400x1050 is not doing justice to your system.
Get a monitor with 1920x1080 for gaming and just use the Viewsonic as 2nd monitor. I believe this will be the most worthy upgrade path for you at the moment.
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