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July 14, 2010 7:34:29 AM

Im in the market for a new AMD CPU and I want one that I can overclock and that is relatively cheap. Say, around 100 bucks. The cheaper the better. So which AMD Proccessors can I buy that I can OC?? Can you OC any of them or are there only certain ones? I know the Black Editions can OC but what about something like the Athlon 64 x2's? Can the be OCed?? Im on a very very very tight budget so I have to basically scrape the bottom of the barrel. Thanks in advance for your replies and insight.

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July 14, 2010 7:47:04 AM

based on this you have two options. (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-cpu-cor...)

1. Athlon II X4 635
2. Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition

Advantages of Athlon over Phenom one
Athlon II X4 635 because it's quad core cpu while the phenom is dual core.

Advantages of Phenom over Athlon one
You might also consider the phenom cpu because it has unlocked clock multiplier.

If you're going to be using it for gaming then the phenom since dual core is enough and not alot of games utilize the full advantages of quad core.

Hope this has helped you, and nothing came from all thanks to toms hardware.
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July 14, 2010 7:57:19 AM

Gaming is rapidly gearing towards heavy multicore usage.. And like it has been always the case, higher clock speeds too play an important part.. The Athlon II X4 635 suits on all these criterions and fits your price bracket also.. What other components do you have or wish to add in your rig.?
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July 14, 2010 8:18:30 AM

Im not sure on the motherboard just yet. I do want one that will allow me to overclock though. I havent bought anything for my build yet. Just wanted some impressions on what to get. Im looking to spend about 100 bucks on the PCU, and 100 on the motherboard. I was just wanting to know if I could overclock any other type of Processor than the black edidtions. Ive also heard that if you by a black edition dual core that you MAY, MAY be able to unlock the other two cores so I may take a gamble and try one of those
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July 14, 2010 6:07:24 PM

SammyBusby said:
Im not sure on the motherboard just yet. I do want one that will allow me to overclock though. I havent bought anything for my build yet. Just wanted some impressions on what to get. Im looking to spend about 100 bucks on the PCU, and 100 on the motherboard. I was just wanting to know if I could overclock any other type of Processor than the black edidtions. Ive also heard that if you by a black edition dual core that you MAY, MAY be able to unlock the other two cores so I may take a gamble and try one of those


Why do you need to unlock cores when you can get a true quad core already.! The black editions are more easier to overclock but getting a dual core is not something i'll personally recommend.. If you can access newegg, look out for combo deals.. They tend to be sometimes a little more price effective.. Also check out this months article on best gaming CPU's.. It'll certainly aid you in taking a firm decision..
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July 14, 2010 6:21:40 PM

I have the Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition, but unlocking the cores is like gambling. I got lucky and was able to. But, to unlock the cores you need a GIGABYTE brand motherboard, because they are the only brand that has that option in the bios.
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July 14, 2010 6:26:54 PM

pokealot said:
I have the Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition, but unlocking the cores is like gambling. I got lucky and was able to. But, to unlock the cores you need a GIGABYTE brand motherboard, because they are the only brand that has that option in the bios.


Any motherboard with the SB710 or SB750 with ACC options has the ability to unlock cores. Asrock boards, Biostar boards, Asus boards, MSI boards, etc have all been unlocked on.
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July 14, 2010 6:48:19 PM

Oh.. then i was told wrong. Thank you, but I would still go with the GIGABYTE brand. I think they are better for overclocking.
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July 16, 2010 12:42:21 PM

pokealot said:
Oh.. then i was told wrong. Thank you, but I would still go with the GIGABYTE brand. I think they are better for overclocking.


no way. in my opinion, MSI mobos are the best overclockers for people who are lazy and people new to overclocking, and they oc in the top 3, probs a tie in the high end market. they have some of the best boards in every socket:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

really good prices too. i dont like gigabyte as much, they havent been as stable or quality as my MSI boards. and gigabyte boards look ugly, msi look nice :lol: 

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July 16, 2010 9:40:28 PM

ares1214 said:
no way. in my opinion, MSI mobos are the best overclockers for people who are lazy and people new to overclocking, and they oc in the top 3, probs a tie in the high end market. they have some of the best boards in every socket:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

really good prices too. i dont like gigabyte as much, they havent been as stable or quality as my MSI boards. and gigabyte boards look ugly, msi look nice :lol: 

PSH.... I tried MSI 3 times every board was unstable, but whatever I still would go with Gigabyte. But, thats my opinion, so just go with a brand that you like i guess.
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July 16, 2010 10:01:43 PM

you must have tried old MSI boards, new ones generally>gigabyte.
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July 17, 2010 1:41:19 AM

All upper end boards regardless of the manufacturer come with more or less the same features and overclock abilities.. It may then come up to the boards layout as a deciding factor.. I too personally give preference to Gigabyte boards when it comes to an AMD build.. But at the same time, there's no denying that MSI mainboards feature the most usable layout.. The 790FX-GD70 for instance has enough pci express slots for a good crossfire setup added with couple of other pci express based cards (like sound card, raid card etc.).. And they are priced sensibly too.. The only other manufacturer with such neat layouts may be EVGA..
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July 17, 2010 2:05:47 AM

Emperus said:
All upper end boards regardless of the manufacturer come with more or less the same features and overclock abilities.. It may then come up to the boards layout as a deciding factor.. I too personally give preference to Gigabyte boards when it comes to an AMD build.. But at the same time, there's no denying that MSI mainboards feature the most usable layout.. The 790FX-GD70 for instance has enough pci express slots for a good crossfire setup added with couple of other pci express based cards (like sound card, raid card etc.).. And they are priced sensibly too.. The only other manufacturer with such neat layouts may be EVGA..


i have the 790fx gd 70 :kaola: 
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July 17, 2010 2:10:36 AM

ares1214 said:
i have the 790fx gd 70 :kaola: 


There you go.. Quite an exciting piece of hardware that one is.. Good buy..
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July 17, 2010 2:23:31 AM

yep, it totally explains my MSI fanboism :lol:  just kidding, but it is definitely the best board ive ever used, by far, and ive used a lot of high end boards. and MSI boards have the best color scheme :lol: 
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July 17, 2010 2:55:58 AM

pokealot said:
I have the Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition, but unlocking the cores is like gambling. I got lucky and was able to. But, to unlock the cores you need a GIGABYTE brand motherboard, because they are the only brand that has that option in the bios.



i have a Phenom II X2 555 BE unlocked to PHenom II X4 B55 using an ECS A790GXM-AD3 MoBo .... its not just gigabyte .. its ACC in bios is what your looking for and even with ACC its still a gamble to unlock the cores if your looking to be "future proof" i would just get the quad core and not take the gamble ( even tho i love my CPU) im still kicking myself for not just waiting for the 6core :( 
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July 22, 2010 7:12:22 AM

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Since you fail to answer the most important question in your quest for a motherboard, sorry I cannot help you.


Sorry for taking so long. Im not sure what memory I want to get really. The cheapest i guess. I have 2GB of DDR2 memory in this computer now that I could probably use. Like I said im on a TIGHT TIGHT budget. Thats why I was considering getting th black edition AMD and trying to unlock the other two cores. They are cheaper.
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July 22, 2010 9:37:02 AM

SammyBusby said:
Sorry for taking so long. Im not sure what memory I want to get really. The cheapest i guess. I have 2GB of DDR2 memory in this computer now that I could probably use. Like I said im on a TIGHT TIGHT budget. Thats why I was considering getting th black edition AMD and trying to unlock the other two cores. They are cheaper.

Unlocking cores are pretty much gambling. You can also do that to the regular ones, it doesn't have to be a Black Edition.
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July 22, 2010 11:23:23 AM

I would suggest a 3 core system then if the budget is that tight. the pricing is more comparable to the duals so they are very good value. great at overclocking too. the chance to unlock the 4th core still remains but is still a gamble (but at least you would get the single extra core for certain over the dual).

I went for the athlon II x3 435 (got lucky and was able to unlock the 4th) and did a steady overclock to 3.5ghz and its running like a peach.
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July 22, 2010 12:11:08 PM

thats what i was saying the x3 440:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...\-_-19-103-843-_-Product

is probably the best bet. it starts out as a triple core, so you have some security there. it has a pretty high clock speed, and can oc atleast 500MHz. Also, it can unlock the 4th core and turn into a x4 athlon, and some even gain L3 cache, and turn into a 945.
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July 23, 2010 12:20:44 AM

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