Thanks in advance to everyone who responds! I'm looking for opinions on the parts I have chosen as well as those that remain to be selected in order to complete my build. I also hope that maybe some of you Combo Deal bounty hunters can help me out.
I am upgrading from a Pentium 4 with HT and GeForce 7600 GT. As you can see, I tend to build a system and then milk it for as long as possible with minor upgrades.
I want a Phenom II X4 on an AM3 board for now. I plan to skip Thuban because it's more costly and has been shown to be less than or equal to Deneb in general. AMD's socket longevity should allow me to snag a Bulldozer CPU in the future.
APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: by Memorial Day (trying to decide if I should wait for that sale)
BUDGET RANGE: I don't really have a budget limit, but I'd like it as cheap as possible without sacrificing quality. 1200-1500 sounds good.
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming, multi-tasking, surfing the internet, ripping/encoding/watching movies occasionally, etc
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, OS (Win7 Pro 64)
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS:NCIX US for the monitor (0 dead pixel return policy ), NewEgg for everything else
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA
PARTS PREFERENCES: AMD, ATI, quality
OVERCLOCKING: Maybe
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No time soon, if ever
MONITOR RESOLUTION: not sure yet
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Must be an AMD system. If I can shave off some dollars without sacrificing quality, please let me know.
SPEAKERS: Looking to spend up to about $100 here. Debating 5.1 vs 2.1 for gaming.
MONITOR: Looking to spend up to about $200 here. Unsure about which resolution I should get (which will affect GPU choice) or if I should be concerned with pixel mapping. Has to be from NCIX US because I have OCD with dead pixels.
Message edited by datagram on 05-12-2010 at 03:15:39 AM
the f3 is the best 7200 rpm hdd out right now, get that. the main advantages of the 890fx is its already support 6 cores, more future proof, U3S6, more pci slots, and slightly better performing. So unless you want to get a 6 core, which for gaming isnt the best move, you should be fine with a 790x board like this:
that board also has U3S6. the 5850 or 5770 depends on what games you play, and at what resolution. there are also better cases for the same, or lesser pricing, like this one:
Thanks, jbakerlent. I see that RAM has tighter timings than what I had selected. While browsing more, I also found G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBECO which has the same timings as what you recommended, but they also operate at a lower voltage. This would translate to power savings and higher overclocking potential, correct? They don't have as many reviews, but G.SKILL seems to produce quality overall so I'm not too concerned if I were to get those.
Both PSUs seem to be pretty good. The Corsair I selected uses a single 12V rail, but the Antec you recommended uses four 12V rails. Doesn't this mean that I will have to manually balance the power between devices if I used the Antec? If so, I think I might stick with the Corsair.
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You shouldn't need extra TIM (thermal paste) because the Hyper+ comes with a tube.
Do you think the TIM will be sufficient if I plan to overclock the CPU? I also read in some reviews that it was kind of thick and hard to spread.
Message edited by datagram on 05-10-2010 at 03:02:28 AM
the f3 is the best 7200 rpm hdd out right now, get that.
Thanks, ares. I have to agree with you. I found some [url=http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-3.5-desktop-hard-drive-charts/compare,1010.html?prod[3016]=on&prod[2770]=on&prod[2369]=on&prod[2367]=on&prod[2365]=on] benchmarks [/url] and I now plan to get the F3.
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the main advantages of the 890fx is its already support 6 cores, more future proof, U3S6, more pci slots, and slightly better performing. So unless you want to get a 6 core, which for gaming isnt the best move, you should be fine with a 790x board like this:
The board you recommend has a nice feature set for a decent price, but I'm concerned about this: "To reach DDR3 1866 MHz or above, you must install two memory modules and install them in the DDR3_3 and DDR3_4 memory sockets." Does this mean I could only use 2 modules when overclocking the memory?
I also found a similar quote from a TH article in 2009, but hopefully it's no longer accurate: "If you're using the X4 955 on... an AM3 platform, you can install DDR3-1333, though it should be noted that only one module per channel works at that frequency." Again, does this mean I am limited to only 2 modules, regardless of overclocking?
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there are also better cases for the same, or lesser pricing, like this one:
that is an amazing case right there, and also a bit cheaper.
That is a sexy case! I see it has even more fans than the Antec 900 plus cable management. Due to shipping costs, it actually comes out to the same price as the Antec, though, assuming I actually get the rebate. I'm now leaning toward your recommendation, but I see a few people have complained about the quality/construction of the front panel ports and buttons. Do you have any experience with this case?
It gives you all the new features - USB 3.0, SATA 6Gb/s while still keeping the price down and allowing for crossfire.
Regarding the monitor look for a 1920x1080 LG or Samsung with a 2-5ms response time.
Either PSU is fine, the Antec gets my recommendation.
Of the graphics cards I would narrow it down to the 5770 and 5850. Between those two it depends on how high of settings you want to run and whether you would add a second 5770 in the future (your current build allows for it). The 5770 is fine imo, but adding everything up and throwing in a $200 monitor you still are only spending $1000 with the 5770.
for gaming a 5850 is a minimum. a 5770 will struggle in some modern day games and just fail in later ones on high settings.
somebody_007, you make a good point. Two 5770s in Crossfire is about the same as a 5850, so I'd be better off just getting the 5850 now and dropping another one in later if I want better performance.
I don't know about the case - I really like my 900.
Yeah, after giving it more thought, I may just stick with the Antec. Rebates seem to be unreliable for a lot of people anyway. Do you have any complaints/cons with your 900?
It gives you all the new features - USB 3.0, SATA 6Gb/s while still keeping the price down and allowing for crossfire.
I like that board except that it seems to suffer from poor design. I agree that I should go with the 890 series chipset. I'm gonna do some more looking around to see what I can come up with.
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Regarding the monitor look for a 1920x1080 LG or Samsung with a 2-5ms response time.
I've been using a Dell Ultrasharp 1704FPT for years, and I hadn't read up on LCDs/response times/etc. It's listed as 12ms, but doesn't say whether that is for greys or blacks.
Furthermore, a review here on TH rates it pretty good, even for gaming. An X-bit Labs article says that "these monitors are not too slow and roughly correspond to 5-millisecond TN matrixes, but you should take this into account if you like to play dynamic games." Should I consider this one at all?
I am very happy with my 900, the only thing is the 902 is actually about the same price right now after a rebate. If I was buying new I would get it instead. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product
What do you mean when you say poor design? Did you see something on the Newegg reviews? I largely ignore them, unless there is a consistent repeating problem that I think might actually be legitimate. I doubt an Asus board would be poorly designed, though.
Regarding the monitor, here's a really good deal on a Samsung monitor - by chance I own a very similar one (2494).
I am very happy with my 900, the only thing is the 902 is actually about the same price right now after a rebate. If I was buying new I would get it instead.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product
I'm so indecisive haha! But after more consideration, I think I'm actually gonna go with the NZXT Tempest EVO case.
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What do you mean when you say poor design? Did you see something on the Newegg reviews? I largely ignore them, unless there is a consistent repeating problem that I think might actually be legitimate. I doubt an Asus board would be poorly designed, though.
The main PCIe slot is at the base of the board. Reviewers have complained about it covering one of the 2 PCI slots and making the other one cramped when trying to use it. A few people have also complained about sound quality (static, hiss).
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Regarding the monitor, here's a really good deal on a Samsung monitor - by chance I own a very similar one (2494).
Enter both of these codes
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Edit: typo
They expire on 5/12 and 5/13.
Your link isn't working for me; however, I'm not sure I'd purchase through Dell anyway unless I can return the monitor due to even one dead pixel with no questions asked. I guess I could contact them and see.
the 5830 is such an unlucky card its placed between the 2 most popular video cards for system builders if only it was a little bit cheaper or performed slightly better
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