Help on gaming PC budget ~1500 $

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Hi ,

I don't play a specific things , I'm not a serous gamer
I need your help to choose the right parts for building a gaming PC , budget around 1500 $

I'm considering the following parts :

CPU : intel core i7 860 2.80GHz ~270$

Nvidia gtx 480 ~500$

ASUS P7P55D-E Deluxe ATX Intel Motherboard ~250$

I need help on choosing there right memory , power supply ,heat spreader for the CPU

Is it Wise to buy an intel SSD ? is it really gonna make a difference ? If it's shall I change the Nvidia GTX 480 into something cheaper ?

If any one have suggestion regarding graphics card ? (It's should be from Nvidia & supports direct X 11)

Finally shall I build by my self or by it from digital storm .com or els ?
 
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Welcome to the forum. See the Build Advice form in my signature. There are a number of changes I would make to your build, but we need some more information first. To answer your last question, I highly recommend building it yourself.
 
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Ok,
The budget doesn't include any thing els such monitor or speakers it's completely for the PC.
I prefer Asus for the motherboard ,
I'm planing to build within the next 5-6 weeks so I'm not in a hurry .
The OS would be Windows 7 Pro .

jbakerlent do you need other information ?

antisyzygy Why do you think that I have to drop Nvidia ? do you have a bad experience with their card ? please share it !

Thanks for both jbakerlent & antisyzygy ,
 
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I'll assume that you are going to add a second GPU and that you are overclocking. I'll also assume that your resolution is 1920x1080. Here's what I would get.

860
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115214&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=3463938&SID=

P55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128409&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=3463938&SID=

4GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231276&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=3463938&SID=

470
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125320&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=3463938&SID=

500GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=3463938&SID=

750W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371025&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=3463938&SID=

300
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=3463938&SID=

212
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=3463938&SID=

Then you can add in this SSD or the 80GB Intel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227531&cm_re=agility_2-_-20-227-531-_-Product

Still comes in under budget ~$1375. See what you think.
 
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If you are just PC Gaming. You would not need i7 860 not worth it at all.
Not worth getting an SSD it won't fit in your budget and still expensive.
Get it next year 160GB SSD.
If you have Micro Center near by you could build yourself i7 930 for $199.99 and Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R.
I know your budget is 1500 it could be around under $1700 save couple checks. Tell me if you have near by so I can configure i7 930.
The bad thing about Nvidia 480 is the price too high and heat. Get ATI 5870 or 5850. After 18 months you could get yourself another one to crossfire.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2977/nvidia-s-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-6-months-late-was-it-worth-the-wait-/1

i5 750 would be perfect for you.
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215 $199.99
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-cpu,2599-6.html

It is not worth too spend that kind of money on Asus E-Deluxe get this instead.
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131621 $189.99

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231303 $119.99

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150443 $409.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125318 $309.99

I don't know how much storage you want these are the fastest in 500GB platter.
HD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181 $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 $74.99

DVD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118030 $19.99

Heatsink: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 $29.99

Thermal Paste: http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=FAN-MX3 $9.99

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006 $109.99
After Rebate: $99.99

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197 $99.98

If your just gaming this would be fine don't need Pro.
OS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754 $99.99

I have VW246H but the other one still good same specs
LCD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049 $229.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236059 $199.99
After Rebate: $179.99

1577.02 w/ est. Shipping with ATI 5870 & Asus VH236H
1475.50 w/ est. Shipping with ATI 5850 & Asus VH236H

Buy yourself HDMI cable for $5.45
100% Guarnatee Good Quality!!!
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024008&p_id=3959&seq=1&format=2
 
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Great , but I have several questions :

1-Why did choose GTX 470 instead of GTX 480 ? (I think asus would be better than gigabytes)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...2&cm_re=gtx_470_nvidia-_-14-121-372-_-Product

2-Do you

2-do you think this power supply is better from the one you have posted ?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...&AID=10446076&PID=3899435&SID=skim1402X558040

3-Regarding the motherboard I can consider this one also from ASUS ASUS P7H57D-V EVO ATX Intel Motherboard also for 199$

4-Do you think if I increased the RAM to 6 or 8 GB would be better ?

5-Regarding the SSD , as I read in some reviews Intel now becomes a pioneer in SSDs , gives much better performance than any other brands as I read .

6-I can add maybe 500GB HDD , to keep my files & multimedia .

 
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1. The 480 is quite expensive and is meant for serious gamers with high resolutions. You mentioned that you weren't a serious gamer so the highest you'd probably want to go imo is the 470. I'd actually take the 5850 over it, but it seemed like you wanted an Nvidia card.

2. No, the TP is better
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=140
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=73

3. Stick to a P55 board. Also at $200 you're getting into socket 1366 range.

4. You shouldn't get 6GB because your platform uses dual channel RAM and 6GB comes in three sticks. You won't see any benefit from 8GB.

5. The OCZ is a good deal faster actually.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3681/oczs-vertex-2-special-sauce-sf1200-reviewed/7

Edit: Didn't see number six

6. Do you mean you would like two 500GB drives? I would just get the 1TB version of the F3.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185&cm_re=f3-_-22-152-185-_-Product
 
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Dear Luci3nd4r :

The processor you have suggested would not affect the budget too much , it's just 70$ difference for better performance ,

The GPU I'm not considering ATI at all , because in future I'll buy NVIDIA 3D Vision Glasses Kit & if I bought ATI I can't use the 3d kit with it .

The motherboard you suggested it good , & this is ASUS P7H57D-V EVO ATX Intel Motherboard also good .

I think the power supply you have suggested is great .

The cool mater case is great one , I'm considering this one .

I see that you both two agreed on COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus for CPU cooling , as I read in reviews that it's little bit difficult to install , is that true ?

Is there are something better ?

P.S to Luci3nd4r :

I'm considering the SSD even if it's expensive because it will give me more faster starting for the windows & faster loading for the games .

Thanks for every one ,
 
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jbakerlent :
great then ,

I see that you both two agreed on COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus for CPU cooling , as I read in reviews that it's little bit difficult to install , is that true ?

Regarding the motherboard , could you suggest something from ASUS ?

No , I didn't mean to add two HDDs , I mean adding HDD in addition to the SSD in the PC :)

Q-Do you have any idea about the cables management inside the PC ? I heard that it's enhance the air flow ?

Thank you man I really appreciate you help ,
 
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1) I haven't used it in one of my personal builds, but I think you should be fine with it. It's one of the most highly recommended HSFs here.

2) Absolutely
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131407
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131621

3) Oh, I see

4) The PSU that I linked is semi-modular meaning that some of the non-essential cables can be disconnected making cable management easier. How well you hide the cables is partially a matter of preference although the better job you do, the easier it is for air to pass through.
 
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Why don't you tie our hands on choices, with no valid reasoning?

Asus is NOT the end-all be-all of MB's.

Nvidia GPU's are, as of now, way over-priced for the performance they give.

There are many more choices of CPU's that may very well fit your budget better.

But, HEY! It's your dosh, spend it however you wish.
 
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croc please calm down !!
I'm not in a hurry , as I mentioned I'll not buy it not , I'll buy within the next 5 or 6 weeks , So I'm taking my time to consider all the options ,

Of course the ASUS aren't always the best ,

Thank You ,
Please suggest something !

Share your experience with me !

ATI GPU aren't good choice for me as I said before because in future I'll buy Nvidia 3D kit .
 
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The i7 930 uses 1366 socket with Triple channel. The i5 750 and i7 860 uses 1156 socket with Dual channel.
If you choose to get i7 930 at Micro Center 6GB memory is enough for gaming.
If you choose to get i5 750 or i7 860 4GB memory is enough for gaming.

You said that in the future going to get Nvidia 3D Vision Glasses Kit. The only two monitors that comes in 3D that I know. I still recommend getting ATI 5870 or 5850.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009222&Tpk=Acer%u00ae%20GD235HZ
$379.99

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Displays/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-8846
$499.99

I haven't heard any reviews saying that Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus difficult to install.
If you wanna spend extra money for heatsink. I'm planning getting these when I have mine built. I don't know which RAM with tall heat spreaders that could interfere the install.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835242001 $64.99

I recommend these SSD.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167024 $424.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227395 $359.00

The Antec Power Supply also good
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371025

Get the Asus P7P55D-E Pro because it has SATA 6GB/s and USB 3.0 this is 1156 socket.
 
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The reason that people are recommending the i5-750 over the i7-860 is that the feature of the i7 (hyperthreading) isn't used in games. It does come in handy for serious video/audio/photo editing, but you didn't really indicate what your primary use of the computer is going to be.

If you are just going to game, the i7-860 will not provide any additional features over the i5-750, but it will cost more. If you spend a significant amount of time doing editing work on this computer, the i7-860 might be worth the additional cost.
 
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OK.

The conclusion :

CPU : Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 =280$

Heatsink : COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus 30$

Thermal paste : ARCTIC COOLING MX-3 = 15 $

Motherboard :ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 = 190$

GPU : ASUS GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) = 350 $

Power supply : Antec TruePower New TP-750 750W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 = 115$

SSD : OCZ Agility 2 OCZSSD2-2AGT50G 2.5" 50GB SATA II MLC = 190 $

RAM :G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 = 115$

Case : Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel = 60 $ Vs. COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel = 100 $

Total = 1385 $ ~ 115 left for HDD & Optical Driver

Q- Which is better performance & speed 2 HDDs joined as raid 0 each with 500 capacity so total will be 1 Tb or one single HDD with capacity 1 Tb with SATA III , the price is almost the same , ?

Q-The cases almost the same , but the cooler master is better in aesthetics , on the other hand would Aluminum case do any good ?

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Looks good. One thing, you won't need the the thermal paste, the HSF comes with some. RAID 0 would outperform a WD 6GB/s drive, but I still wouldn't recommend it, considering you are getting a SSD anyways. As for the cases, Antec actually has two other cases to compete more on the level of the 922 - check out the 900 and the 902.
 
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Hype 212+ can be a bear to install the first time you do it because it's not obvious. However, you can probably just watch one of the YouTube installs and be fine.
 
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Great then ! ,

Yes , but I will use my SSD only for OS , and games , software , ... So the HDD is necessary for keeping the files & multimedia . Please recommend something . "Like when you but something for your self"

I will keep the case for the end , any thing you wish to add ? or change ? extra fans maybe ? is't good to have fan controller ? or it's just fine ?

Thank you ..





quotemsg=2111817,20,622411]Hype 212+ can be a bear to install the first time you do it because it's not obvious. However, you can probably just watch one of the YouTube installs and be fine.[/quotemsg]


Yes , this what I was trying to say , I'll look for it ,
Is there any thing you wish to add ?

Thank you .
 
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