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sathoro
May 9, 2010 7:33:28 PM
About to order my first build, I'd love it if some people looked over it and gave me any last minute suggestions or pointed out any mistakes.
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Credits to SomeGuyNamedMatt for most of the build and giving me lots of help, thanks!
Gonna use for: photo editing > 3d rendering > gaming

Credits to SomeGuyNamedMatt for most of the build and giving me lots of help, thanks!
Gonna use for: photo editing > 3d rendering > gaming
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someguynamedmatt
May 9, 2010 7:43:16 PM
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sathoro
May 9, 2010 7:54:29 PM
tecmo34 said:
Decent build but for your needs the i5 750 will better for two reasons...1) More powerful CPU for Photo editing and 3D Rendering
2) Better SLI support through the LGA 1156 socket. Nvidia Chipsets are not good (very buggy!!) and would not recommend them for any SLI setup.
Can you recommend any motherboards for it? And what do you mean by buggy... it can't be that bad
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someguynamedmatt
May 9, 2010 7:56:14 PM
sathoro
May 9, 2010 8:00:18 PM
sathoro
May 9, 2010 8:00:25 PM
someguynamedmatt
May 9, 2010 8:01:10 PM
Ah, this seems like it would be a hot topic... let's wait a while to see what other people say about it.
The only way I could see an nForce board as being 'buggy' is if you're one of those people who pesters with their BIOS and SLI settings every five minutes. As long as you get something stable and don't mess with it every five seconds, then you've got nothing to worry about.
The only way I could see an nForce board as being 'buggy' is if you're one of those people who pesters with their BIOS and SLI settings every five minutes. As long as you get something stable and don't mess with it every five seconds, then you've got nothing to worry about.
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This is a good board for the price.... (don't be worried it is ASRock, they are good.)
ASRock P55 Extreme LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard
What I mean by buggy, is random BSOD for no parent reason. The chipset isn't very reliable and most would not recommend them.
Is the software you using utilize CUDA? If not, there is no reason to purchase a Nvidia card when ATI performs better. Typically, it isn't recommended to purchase two cards to start as it leaves no upgrade path if you run into gaming issues. To add more GPU power, you'll have to purchase one or two new cards, instead of just adding another card.
ASRock P55 Extreme LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard
What I mean by buggy, is random BSOD for no parent reason. The chipset isn't very reliable and most would not recommend them.
Is the software you using utilize CUDA? If not, there is no reason to purchase a Nvidia card when ATI performs better. Typically, it isn't recommended to purchase two cards to start as it leaves no upgrade path if you run into gaming issues. To add more GPU power, you'll have to purchase one or two new cards, instead of just adding another card.
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someguynamedmatt
May 9, 2010 8:05:03 PM
Lol, that's the problem with Tom's... if you post something asking whether it's good or not, there will always be people who come along saying that 'this could be better', but always forget to mention that it would cost another $200...
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Yep, see? It's another $50 for the board, then another $40-50 for the processor...
I don't even think Intel's going to be releasing anything for the 1156 anymore, either, so you'd better hope you don't see anything else you like.
AMD will keep the AM3 socket until someone decides to release DDR4 memory... lol...
All I can say about it being 'buggy', is that if you get the BSOD within the first two weeks of owning it, and it's not your fault (eg, bad overclock, bad settings, etc...), then return it for a different board. I honestly don't see that happening, though. You've all heard this before, but neither MSI nor Pny have failed me yet.
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Yep, see? It's another $50 for the board, then another $40-50 for the processor...
I don't even think Intel's going to be releasing anything for the 1156 anymore, either, so you'd better hope you don't see anything else you like.
AMD will keep the AM3 socket until someone decides to release DDR4 memory... lol...All I can say about it being 'buggy', is that if you get the BSOD within the first two weeks of owning it, and it's not your fault (eg, bad overclock, bad settings, etc...), then return it for a different board. I honestly don't see that happening, though. You've all heard this before, but neither MSI nor Pny have failed me yet.
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sathoro
May 9, 2010 8:08:53 PM
@SomeGuyNamedMatt... You are correct... It is an additional cost of roughly $100 for a system that is better for the OP's task (Photo Editing & 3D Rendering). At the same time, running two GPU's will provide no benefit to in those task and the GTS 250 isn't a very good GPU. The OP would be better off with an i5 750 with an ATI 5770, which will provide close to the same performance level.
I'm not saying your build is bad, it is a very good build for the price but there benefits with the i5 750 for the OP's needs.
I'm not saying your build is bad, it is a very good build for the price but there benefits with the i5 750 for the OP's needs.
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someguynamedmatt
May 9, 2010 8:11:40 PM
I hate to sound rude, but if you take some time to check out some benchmarks, dual 250's actually smoked the 285 on a good board, and they got about the same as it on an nForce board which was actually pretty close to the one he has right now.
IMHO, I feel that an OC'd 955 is more power than you'd ever really need. Sure you can save about 1 to 2 seconds off a load/render time with an i5, but is it really worth another $100?
IMHO, I feel that an OC'd 955 is more power than you'd ever really need. Sure you can save about 1 to 2 seconds off a load/render time with an i5, but is it really worth another $100?
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blu3flannel
May 9, 2010 8:23:36 PM
someguynamedmatt said:
I don't even think Intel's going to be releasing anything for the 1156 anymore, either, so you'd better hope you don't see anything else you like.
I don't mean to rain on your parade, but they're releasing more Core i7's for the P55 chipset as well as an entire new line of processors codenamed Sandy Bridge. Do your research before you say stuff like that. But I think this and this should do much better in all the fields that you will use it in than the Phenom II X4 ever could, for just $30 more.
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IMHO, I feel that an OC'd 955 is more power than you'd ever really need. Sure you can save about 1 to 2 seconds off a load/render time with an i5, but is it really worth another $100?
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someguynamedmatt
May 9, 2010 8:28:28 PM
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Sweet Jesus, dude, where do you get your numbers?If you look at that motherboard, unless I missed something, it is not SLI ready. The whole idea behind getting an SLI setup was the support for nVidia OpenGL 3.x, which is used by many higher-end rendering programs. Don't ask me why most Radeon cards don't work with it... it must be marketing or something. Talk to Al if you want to know more about that...
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I don't mean to rain on your parade, but they're releasing more Core i7's for the P55 chipset as well as an entire new line of processorscodenamed Sandy Bridge
What? That's for the 1156? Huh... I was thinking that was for the 1366 socket for some reason. Sorry... my bad...
Oh, and the reason for the dual graphics cards is that in the first topic, he said that he might end up running two monitors off of it... that would really speed things up...
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Also, note that their definition of Crossfire on that is X16/X4... I'm pretty sure that would do absolutely nothing to help
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sathoro
May 9, 2010 8:34:27 PM
someguynamedmatt
May 9, 2010 8:37:17 PM
I don't really know to be honest. It says that the CPU Type is i7 in the specs, though... it should still support an i5, I think... and nowhere at all can I find that it's SLI ready.
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You're talking about what blueflannel said, right? There's nothing wrong with the original build... everyone just wants you to spend some more for an i5 system instead of an AMD one... that's pretty much it...
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You're talking about what blueflannel said, right? There's nothing wrong with the original build... everyone just wants you to spend some more for an i5 system instead of an AMD one... that's pretty much it...
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sathoro
May 9, 2010 8:46:42 PM
dan4patriots
May 9, 2010 8:47:45 PM
sathoro
May 9, 2010 8:52:46 PM
sathoro
May 9, 2010 8:53:54 PM
someguynamedmatt
May 9, 2010 8:55:24 PM
Well, I've been saying this a lot, but I'm not really sure what size it should be. Uhh, I've got my CM 690 II case right beside me (yep, it's what I use too), and it's about 2.5 feet from corner to corner, so a 3 foot cable should be long enough.
A hexa-core would also be nice, but you'd give up some gaming performance in order to get the extra 2 cores. I'm not sure if that board supports hexa-core processors either, though... it probably isn't worth the risk to be honest.
A hexa-core would also be nice, but you'd give up some gaming performance in order to get the extra 2 cores. I'm not sure if that board supports hexa-core processors either, though... it probably isn't worth the risk to be honest.
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someguynamedmatt
May 9, 2010 8:56:52 PM
sathoro
May 9, 2010 9:00:12 PM
someguynamedmatt
May 9, 2010 9:02:00 PM
sathoro
May 9, 2010 9:03:51 PM
sathoro
May 9, 2010 9:05:24 PM
someguynamedmatt
May 9, 2010 9:08:18 PM
sathoro
May 9, 2010 9:10:09 PM
someguynamedmatt
May 9, 2010 9:10:48 PM
yeah, that's what I was saying... you'd almost be better with a crossfire board and a 5850
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maybe you could replace the 250's with some cheap 260's if you wanted more graphics performance
could you afford 2 of these in SLI with that nForce board?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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maybe you could replace the 250's with some cheap 260's if you wanted more graphics performance
could you afford 2 of these in SLI with that nForce board?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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sathoro
May 9, 2010 9:18:55 PM
someguynamedmatt said:
yeah, that's what I was saying... you'd almost be better with a crossfire board and a 5850EDIT
maybe you could replace the 250's with some cheap 260's if you wanted more graphics performance
could you afford 2 of these in SLI with that nForce board?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Uhm I think I'll stick with the GTX 470 (not the clocked one), I'm sure the noise won't be bad.
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someguynamedmatt
May 9, 2010 9:20:44 PM
sathoro
May 9, 2010 9:21:03 PM
Could you link me to a SATA cable for my CD drive? I'm very confused here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E....
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vigorvermin
May 9, 2010 9:23:37 PM
You need to figure out whether or not the programs you are using utilize CUDA, because if it does that changes everything. A CUDA card will do much better at photo editing and rendering if you're using the right programs, and can game to boot. Whereas an ATI card won't be able to do nearly as good a job at the more important tasks, but will game a whole lot better for the price.
Tell us what programs you are using, including what games you're trying to play and we'll figure this out
Tell us what programs you are using, including what games you're trying to play and we'll figure this out
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someguynamedmatt
May 9, 2010 9:24:32 PM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
That should work fine. And if he's getting a 470, then he'll have CUDA support either way, so we're in good shape here.
That should work fine. And if he's getting a 470, then he'll have CUDA support either way, so we're in good shape here.
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sathoro
May 9, 2010 9:25:42 PM
vigorvermin said:
You need to figure out whether or not the programs you are using utilize CUDA, because if it does that changes everything. A CUDA card will do much better at photo editing and rendering if you're using the right programs, and can game to boot. Whereas an ATI card won't be able to do nearly as good a job at the more important tasks, but will game a whole lot better for the price.Tell us what programs you are using, including what games you're trying to play and we'll figure this out
The CS5 suite for photo and video editing. Maya and 3DS Max for 3D rendering. WoW and other games.
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sathoro
May 9, 2010 9:27:32 PM
Ok so
2x A-DATA Gaming Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333G (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model AX3U1333GB2G8-2G
and
EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
and
MSI 790X-G45 AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard
and
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ955FBGIBOX
is all compatible? (I'm dieing to press the checkout button)
2x A-DATA Gaming Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333G (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model AX3U1333GB2G8-2G
and
EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
and
MSI 790X-G45 AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard
and
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ955FBGIBOX
is all compatible? (I'm dieing to press the checkout button)
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someguynamedmatt
May 9, 2010 9:29:22 PM
Wrong motherboard there...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
You'll be able to get a second 470 in the future, and the 790x doesn't support DDR3-1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
You'll be able to get a second 470 in the future, and the 790x doesn't support DDR3-1333
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sathoro
May 9, 2010 9:31:15 PM
someguynamedmatt
May 9, 2010 9:33:21 PM
sathoro
May 9, 2010 9:34:53 PM
sathoro
May 9, 2010 9:36:23 PM
sathoro
May 9, 2010 9:41:58 PM
someguynamedmatt said:
Can you copy everything over you your wishlist and put it up here so I can check it when you're done? That would be a lot easier...Here it is: http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/ [...] r=12915345
Just making sure you got it
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someguynamedmatt
May 9, 2010 9:42:47 PM
Well, I only see one thing that I forgot to tell you about...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
You'll need some thermal grease to go along with that cooler... I forgot because the one I bought came with it...
Aside from that, everything checks out. I'd double-check everything before ordering it, but other than that, good luck with your build, and I hope everything works out for you.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
You'll need some thermal grease to go along with that cooler... I forgot because the one I bought came with it...
Aside from that, everything checks out. I'd double-check everything before ordering it, but other than that, good luck with your build, and I hope everything works out for you.
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sathoro
May 9, 2010 9:46:06 PM
someguynamedmatt said:
Well, I only see one thing that I forgot to tell you about...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
You'll need some thermal grease to go along with that cooler... I forgot because the one I bought came with it...
Aside from that, everything checks out. I'd double-check everything before ordering it, but other than that, good luck with your build, and I hope everything works out for you.
Thank you, thank you for all your help! If I have any trouble building I might come back here, or I might post pictures when it is all done...
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someguynamedmatt
May 9, 2010 9:48:51 PM
No problem. I'm always glad to help... and honestly, I think your PC would easily out-perform the one I'm running right now that cost pretty much the same.
Be sure to do a lot of reading on assembly, especially cooler installation. From experience, I can say that it was easily the hardest thing to install, and was also the thing I screwed up three times on. I'd search up on Overclocking, too, but it comes pretty easily once you get everything put together.
Feel free to do so! And we love seeing pictures here at Tom's!
Oh, and once you build it, you should know this the first time you power it on: You're lucky if it goes through POST and installs Windows the first try. Normally, it takes a little bit of tinkering to get everything set right, but if you have any trouble at all, just ask someone here, and they'll be glad to help.
Good luck, and have fun with your build!
Be sure to do a lot of reading on assembly, especially cooler installation. From experience, I can say that it was easily the hardest thing to install, and was also the thing I screwed up three times on. I'd search up on Overclocking, too, but it comes pretty easily once you get everything put together.
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If I have any trouble building I might come back here, or I might post pictures when it is all done... Feel free to do so! And we love seeing pictures here at Tom's!
Oh, and once you build it, you should know this the first time you power it on: You're lucky if it goes through POST and installs Windows the first try. Normally, it takes a little bit of tinkering to get everything set right, but if you have any trouble at all, just ask someone here, and they'll be glad to help.
Good luck, and have fun with your build!
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