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Still confused I would like to change my Video card for a better one

Forum Graphics & Displays : Graphics Cards Still confused I would like to change my Video card for a better one

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I hope I did this right?, I have looked at some of the posting but I am still confused I would like to change my Video card for a better one to play “ WOW “ “STO “ “Champ” Ect. And I was wondering if any one has any input. I’m fairly new I do believe without changing any of my computers specs the video card is the next best way. I do not know how to over clock and I’m a complete moron when to computer teck but I am a gamer and I hope to learn more as time goes on.
Thanks for your consideration

CPU Arch : 1 CPU - 2 Cores - 2 Threads
CPU PSN : AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5400+
CPU EXT : MMX(+), 3DNow!(+), SSE (1, 2, 3), x86-64, AMD-V
CPUID : F.B.2 / Extended : F.6B
CPU Cache : L1 : 2 x 64 / 2 x 64 KB - L2 : 2 x 512 KB
Core : Brisbane (65 nm) / Stepping : BH-G2
Freq : 2814.68 MHz (201.05 * 14)
MB Brand : Asus
MB Model : M2N-SLI
NB : NVIDIA nForce4 rev A3
SB : NVIDIA nForce4 MCP rev F3
GPU Type : NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT
GPU Clocks : Core 459 MHz / RAM 399 MHz
DirectX Version : 9.0c
RAM : 4096 MB DDR2 Single Channel
RAM Speed : 312.7 MHz (Unknown) @ 5-5-5-15
Slot 1 : 2048MB (5300)
Slot 1 Manufacturer : Kingston
Slot 2 : 2048MB (5300)
Slot 2 Manufacturer : Kingston

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Budget, Power supply, and monitor size?

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First off - if you have 2-2gb ram modules then you should be running in dual channel mode instead of single channel (open your case and see if the 2 Ram modules are in the 2 color matched slots) -- In looking at your MOBO model it has 2 yellow and 2 brown slots and the modules should both be placed in matching colored slots so they will run in dual channel mode (which is much faster and will improve performaance of the system !!)

second you are correct the 8500GT video card is probably holding back the performance of games - in order to know what is the best fit for your system we would need to know what your budget is (the more you can spend the higher the performance of the card you can get to an extent !) - second we would need to know what Powersupply you currently are using - Open the case and look for a label on the powersupply that lists the Brand - Wattage and also the +12V amperage (the video card runs on the +12V and we need to know if yours will support certain video cards (different cards require different amounts of power and not having a powerful enough PSU will cause the system to be unstable) - so spending X dollars on a video card and trying to run it on too small a PSU would not work - so along with the budget if going for a powerful video card it may require a new PSU as well depending on what you have now.

EDIT : oh yeah also include what size monitor you use as the resolution you game at will make a difference in the needed video card to run it at decent speed !


Message edited by JDFan on 04-10-2010 at 09:04:15 PM
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Derbixrace wrote :

a 5670 sounds good for your build :)



Yes but a 5670 requires a 400W PSU and he probably has something more like a 250 or 300W PSU so whether it is actually a good fit will depend on the budget and the PSU in the system (and whether he wants to also buy a new PSU or not !!!)

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An HD5670 does not require a 400W PSU...

------------------------------ First Gaming Rig
ASUS DirectCU HD6850(875/1100 @2.12v) ~ Phenom II x3 720(x4-920) @ 3.2ghz ~ 4GB OCZ TITANIUM XTC Series (OC'd to 1066) ~ Coolmax 600W ~ 640GB SATA ~ 4x80mm + 1x120mm
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shadow187 wrote :

An HD5670 does not require a 400W PSU...



Quote :

General
Max Resolution 2560 x 1600
CrossFireX Support Yes
Cooler With Fan
System Requirements 400 Watt or greater power (500 Watt for ATI CrossFireX technology in dual mode)
Dual-Link DVI Supported Yes
HDCP Ready Yes



May not require it but that is the recommended spec - again can get by on lower but depends on the quality of the PSU -- for a quality brand 300W would suffice but on a no name brand it would be asking for trouble !

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The card doesn't use more than 50Watts...the CPU he has uses 95watts IIRC...that's 150Watts or 15a. My 10 year old computer has 15a on the 12v, odds are his has the same or greater.

------------------------------ First Gaming Rig
ASUS DirectCU HD6850(875/1100 @2.12v) ~ Phenom II x3 720(x4-920) @ 3.2ghz ~ 4GB OCZ TITANIUM XTC Series (OC'd to 1066) ~ Coolmax 600W ~ 640GB SATA ~ 4x80mm + 1x120mm
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shadow187 wrote :

The card doesn't use more than 50Watts...the CPU he has uses 95watts IIRC...that's 150Watts or 15a. My 10 year old computer has 15a on the 12v, odds are his has the same or greater.



Hmm - according to Tom's benches the card uses 76Watts running the 3dmark06 bench which is a bit more than 50W !! and adding another 95W for a non OC'd CPU brings it to 171W for just those 2 components - now add the rest of the components (DVD\CD drive - HDDs - 4gb. RAM - case fans - etc. and your pushing close to 80 to 90% usage on a 250 - 300W PSU which is closer than I'd be comfortable with for a stable system!! (you might feel differently but most PSUs run optimally at 50% load capacity or less - so on a system that is going to be running at 200W usage under load I'd want a minmum of a 400W PSU - but then I prefer a stable system !!)

http://media.bestofmicro.com/7/H/236141/original/Power.png


Message edited by JDFan on 04-10-2010 at 10:18:25 PM
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http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/video/radeon-hd5670-hd5570-hd5450/ati5670_plines.png

I trust xBitLabs for their charts.

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ASUS DirectCU HD6850(875/1100 @2.12v) ~ Phenom II x3 720(x4-920) @ 3.2ghz ~ 4GB OCZ TITANIUM XTC Series (OC'd to 1066) ~ Coolmax 600W ~ 640GB SATA ~ 4x80mm + 1x120mm
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The 5670 can run on a good 300w psu.

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Well thanks for the quick response ill update my specs when I get home from work. Again thanks for the help

Reply to prbude

the 5670 will run on any 300w PSU not named "ACME"

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Reply to ct1615

builderbobftw wrote :

The 5670 can run on a good 300w psu.


GOOD being the operative word -- If it is a generic one like this that comes with a case - then I wouldn't chance it !!

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/11-154-068-S14?$S640W$

Reply to JDFan

My dell 250Watt has 16a on the 12v. Lolwaaaat?

------------------------------ First Gaming Rig
ASUS DirectCU HD6850(875/1100 @2.12v) ~ Phenom II x3 720(x4-920) @ 3.2ghz ~ 4GB OCZ TITANIUM XTC Series (OC'd to 1066) ~ Coolmax 600W ~ 640GB SATA ~ 4x80mm + 1x120mm
Reply to shadow187

for all the crap dell takes, a lot of it well deserved, their PSU are very solid

------------------------------ defeating idiot fan boys since 2008.
Reply to ct1615

ct1615 wrote :

for all the crap dell takes, a lot of it well deserved, their PSU are very solid



Very true - PC power and Cooling makes them for Dell and are some of the best out there !

Reply to JDFan

It ran my OC'd Core2Duo E1400 and my OC'd HD4650.

------------------------------ First Gaming Rig
ASUS DirectCU HD6850(875/1100 @2.12v) ~ Phenom II x3 720(x4-920) @ 3.2ghz ~ 4GB OCZ TITANIUM XTC Series (OC'd to 1066) ~ Coolmax 600W ~ 640GB SATA ~ 4x80mm + 1x120mm
Reply to shadow187

JDFan wrote :

Very true - PC power and Cooling makes them for Dell and are some of the best out there !



PC P&C made Silencer Series replacements for DELL, and those where made by Seasonic. Dell PSU are made by Delta I believe, Delluser1 is the expert on who actually makes them.

------------------------------ defeating idiot fan boys since 2008.
Reply to ct1615

ct1615 wrote :

the 5670 will run on any 300w PSU not named "ACME"



Or Bestec.

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