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COnfused: cheap 295 or 5870

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April 11, 2010 4:39:28 AM

Simply put, Heres my problem: Im getting two options at the moment

  • Used GTX-295 for 420$

  • New: HIS5870 for 480$

  • new: HIS5850 for 360$

    Things to consider:
    1- Usage: Gaming and more gaming!

    2- Gaming Resolution is: Daily 1680x1050 / occasional 1920x1200

    3- Current PSU: CM600W (75%Eff)

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    What should i go for? Given that 295 has huge fps numbers, plus the SLI issues (if applicable). 5870 costs more, but DX11, and lower power are lucrative...

    a b U Graphics card
    April 11, 2010 4:42:49 AM

    get the 5850 for that resolution and PSU.
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    April 11, 2010 6:12:23 AM

    well, the thought crossed my mind, but with the current 285, wudnt that be a step down? I mean, i know 5850 equal to the 285 in performance, but the whole point of upgrade is going up :)  ...

    Ive been reading reviews, and 5870 is really appealing to me... the gtx 4 series arent that much interesting sadly :(  But the cheaper 295 also has an attraction :S
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    a b U Graphics card
    April 11, 2010 4:23:05 PM

    ^ Mind listing full specs? Can you board CrossFire? If so, I'd get the 5870.
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    April 11, 2010 5:22:50 PM

    im using P7p55D for the i7 (specs in profile) .. and it has crossfire. Ive read we can crossfire a 5870 with a 5850 for lesser cost alternative asewll, so i am inclined towards a "lateron" xfire...
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    a b U Graphics card
    April 11, 2010 10:46:36 PM

    Where do you live? You can get a 5870 for about $400-$420ish online if you live in the US.
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    April 11, 2010 11:45:50 PM

    Those are some expensive prices
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    Anonymous
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    April 12, 2010 12:08:24 AM

    A 5850@1Ghz will give you 30-35%+ on top of the 285. From those options and those prices, 5850 with DX11.
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    April 12, 2010 12:44:11 AM

    I would just stick to the 285.

    It's a fast card, and you realy need to avoid incremntal upgrades.

    If you realy want a huge ldiffrence, I would get the 5970, Or just wait for Fermi 2/Northern Islands.
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    April 12, 2010 12:49:54 AM

    Ya if you can wait without DX11, it would be better.

    And at that low resolution , the 285 is enough.
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    April 12, 2010 12:51:09 AM

    Yep.

    The GTX 285 is just fine for now, The card owns the 5830.

    Not a dinosuar by any means.

    It can max any game at that res.

    (Except Metro 2033)
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    April 12, 2010 2:55:39 AM

    I live in Pakistan, hence the high prices :(  (After imports etc) .. Btw, a a 5970 will be too much for this res. 5870 will be better...

    One of the main reason i was confused was that the 295 was going so cheap (and with warranty) ... but seeing the response here, no one is opting for it lol
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    April 12, 2010 3:48:49 AM

    Going from a 285 to a 295 isnt really a significant upgrade. What game does the 285 dont play well?
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    a b U Graphics card
    April 12, 2010 4:18:13 AM

    Yeh, your 600watt PSU with 75% efficiency can probably only handle a single-GPU core card like the 5850, 5870 anyways. The GTX295 is very power hungry...
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    April 12, 2010 4:46:17 AM

    well, based on ur opinions, ive removed the 295 from the list :)  . Ill be looking fwd to the 5870 prolly, unless i get good deals for a 5850. Btw, HIS is a good brand( read reliable)? Or if possible i shud go for Asus or MSI?
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    April 12, 2010 6:02:35 AM

    Get the reference design just to be sure it can be modded. All brands same as quality goes, customer support= XFX, Asus. All reference are made by ATi anyway.
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    April 12, 2010 8:55:34 AM

    if you can find a good deal on a 5850 then I would recommend one of these I as have one and when overclocked become extremely powerful cards
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    April 12, 2010 9:52:49 AM

    if you get a 5870 you can play games at 1980X1050 smoothly

    i can max out all games in that res with my oc'ed 5850
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    April 12, 2010 10:59:52 AM

    stick to your 25. Can you tell me which game does the 285 lag behind in. Do not waste your money now. Rather buy a powerful PSU from that and save the rest. save money and buy a 5970 a month or 2 later. That is the best you can do. 5870 now would be a waste of money at the moment
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    April 12, 2010 11:35:39 AM

    king game said:
    if you get a 5870 you can play games at 1980X1050 smoothly

    i can max out all games in that res with my oc'ed 5850


    Metro2033 will make any configs but 2x5870 or above cry at 1920x1080 Max
    Seriously, if Metro2033 is already peaking my 2x5850, how the hell would I be able to play Crysis2 =.=
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    April 12, 2010 2:48:40 PM

    HKH said:
    Metro2033 will make any configs but 2x5870 or above cry at 1920x1080 Max
    Seriously, if Metro2033 is already peaking my 2x5850, how the hell would I be able to play Crysis2 =.=


    A 5850@1Ghz will play Metro maxed with Tesslation perfectly. ~40Fps

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOLjROF_o0g

    Its when you enable 4xAA that will bring it down to ~30Fps.

    But this is at 1680x1050 it should still be playable @ 1920. Interesting is when you enable 4xAA at 1920+, all the 1Gb cards fail or give ~5Fps, even the 5970 as it also has 1GB/GPU.
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    April 13, 2010 4:23:03 AM

    Quote:
    A 5850@1Ghz will play Metro maxed with Tesslation perfectly. ~40Fps

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOLjROF_o0g

    Its when you enable 4xAA that will bring it down to ~30Fps.

    But this is at 1680x1050 it should still be playable @ 1920. Interesting is when you enable 4xAA at 1920+, all the 1Gb cards fail or give ~5Fps, even the 5970 as it also has 1GB/GPU.


    That means you can't max it =.=
    What I mean by maxing is everything Very high at 4xAA
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