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Longevity gaming pc 1000-1400

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May 11, 2010 3:48:46 AM

Hey, so kinda new to custom pcs. Typically I just order a dell and am done but kind of wanting to get more bang for the buck. The build is below, not sure if the ps is strong enough. Ideas?


* CD: Sony 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive [+2] (BLACK COLOR)
* CAS: Apevia X-Dreamer 3 Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ Side-Panel Window & Temperature Display (Black Color with Black Ring & Blue LED Fan)
* CS_FAN: Default case fans
* CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-930 2.80 GHz 8M Intel Smart Cache LGA1366
* FAN: Xigmatek Dark Knight-S1283V Gaming CPU Cooling Fan (Double layer H.D.T. technology for maximum cooling) [+7]
* FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)
* HDD: 1TB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Hard Drive)
* KEYBOARD: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
* MOUSE: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse
* MOTHERBOARD: * Asus P6T SE Intel X58 Chipset CrossFireX Mainboard Triple-Channel DDR3/1600 SATA RAID w/ eSATA
* MEMORY: 6GB (2GBx3) DDR3/1600MHz Triple Channel Memory Module (Kingston HyperX)
* MULTIVIEW: Non-SLI/Non-CrossFireX Mode Supports Multiple Monitors
* OS: Microsoft® Windows® 7 Home Premium [+104] (64-bit Edition)
* OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
* POWERSUPPLY: 800 Watts Power Supplies [+39] (* CyberPowerPC XF800S Performance ATX 2.0 Power - Quad SLI Ready)
* VIDEO: ATI Radeon HD 5850 1GB GDDR5 16X PCIe Video Card [DirectX 11 Support] [+196] (Major Brand Powered by ATI)

1355.65 after shipping/taxes. Anything i should do differently or anything to heavily improve performance for abit more $?

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May 11, 2010 3:59:15 AM

PSU on paper is strong enough. My recommendation would be to select a Corsair 750TX PSU, which is a better PSU.

Next question... Why buy CyberPowerPC instead of build yourself??
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May 11, 2010 4:02:09 AM

So, after checking out the prices of parts i'll only be saving about $100. Which I would lose in cost of tools/hassle. Prices according to newegg, although pricewatcher was abit cheaper i'm not sure if the sellers are as reputable.
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May 11, 2010 4:07:14 AM

Welcome to the forum.

^+1

As far as building it yourself goes...
1) Hassle? I find the experience very enjoyable actually.
2) Tools? You just need a phillips head.

Let me try to put together a better build on newegg and see what it comes to. :) 
There's a Build Advice form in my signature that you may want to fill out in the mean time though, for fine tuning.
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May 11, 2010 4:08:27 AM

Price isnt the only factor. You can see where Cyberpower skimps on components. Who makes the hard drive? What firmware is it?

All it says is size, speed and cache. That is the most basic information to give the perception that it's quality. That is rarely the case. 7200.11 ring a bell? Deathstar?
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May 11, 2010 4:20:47 AM

Thank's for the tip:) 

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE:Before 6/1/10
BUDGET RANGE: 1000-1400 After Rebates

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming/movies

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Monitor(planning on 32in lcd tv w/good refresh/contrast (stupid idea?), speakers

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS:newegg
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN:N/A

PARTS PREFERENCES: Ideally I'd like this to last awhile, so going for longevity which i'v heard i7-930 is a good investment and later crossfiring ATI Radeon HD 5850

OVERCLOCKING: Yes, eventually
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes, eventually

MONITOR RESOLUTION: N/A

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I'd like windows if at all possible and parts that will last/work with future upgrades.
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May 11, 2010 4:22:04 AM

So, you'll need to pick out a keyboard+mouse to go with this, but it's at ~$1300 after rebates with the OS.

CPU+MOBO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Benefits of the custom build:

1) More reliable, faster HDD.
2) Superior MOBO with more features
3) More reliable, most likely lower latency RAM
4) Way better, crossfire capable, efficient PSU
5) Better warranty on GPU
6) All the intangibles - pride in your new build, etc.
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May 11, 2010 4:30:58 AM

Wow, Thanks for the help!

I had one question:

RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820226130
I've heard that 1600mhz is more beneficial when overclocking on the 930, or does it not really matter?




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May 11, 2010 4:36:10 AM

No problem. Your link doesn't work for me. 1600MHz won't add much performance, but it could help a tiny bit in high overclocks. I wouldn't get it if the price difference is very great.
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May 11, 2010 4:38:22 AM

My bad, it was just a link of a link. Another stupid question, are the ext warranties on newegg actually worth it?
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May 11, 2010 4:41:51 AM

No, not imo at least. I just rely on the manufacturer's warranties.
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May 11, 2010 5:02:13 AM

Here's an AMD variant:

AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD5 AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
XFX HD-587X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5870
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Antec TruePower New TP-750 750W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Antec Nine Hundred Two
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$1,391.87
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May 11, 2010 5:06:25 AM

You could knock about $150 off that AMD build by going with a AMD 955 X4 BE and get the same/better gaming performance. There is no gaming benefit to 6 cores. Otherwise, good build.
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May 11, 2010 5:09:59 AM

+1 for the AMD options. I didn't get to see the completed build advice form before I put together my build. The AMD will serve you very well for gaming. My vote would be for the quad.
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May 11, 2010 5:20:39 AM

Few Questions:
So you'd say AMD>Intel for gaming?

Radeon HD 5870 vs 5850 worth 80$?

Mobo suggestion with AMD 955 X4 BE?
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May 11, 2010 5:25:01 AM

AMD>Intel for gaming ON A BUDGET imo. Caps used for inflection, not yelling.
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May 11, 2010 5:31:17 AM

No, AMD is not necessarily better than Intel at gaming, but it offers much better value. I would say it's $80 more, but to be clear it's not a necessity at 1080p.

The gaming benchmarks are at the bottom.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/88?vs=47
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May 11, 2010 6:02:29 AM

Thanks for all the help/advice. Brought the cost down to 1271 w/mouse,keyboard.
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May 11, 2010 6:54:13 AM

zizka said:
So, after checking out the prices of parts i'll only be saving about $100. Which I would lose in cost of tools/hassle. Prices according to newegg, although pricewatcher was abit cheaper i'm not sure if the sellers are as reputable.


Hi. I bought a gamers rig from the same company and I'm so sorry that I did. I asked the question on their forum on what the longevity is for a CP rig and they stated 1 year. They use refurbished parts whenever and where-ever they can. After dealing with them for months on a bad motherboard design (my bad for not doing my homework) and after loosing my joy at having a new rig I just don't care anymore weather it blows up or not. The mobo is already showing signs of failure. If you haven't purchased one from them already, please build your own...gwb56
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May 11, 2010 7:05:48 AM

Also, I'd like to point out, that Toms Hardware forums junkies such as myself are better tech support than iBuypower and CyberpowerPC by far.

I know I have personally called someone on here and walked them through a NO POST troubleshooting until his build was good to go.

And we actually care. And it's free.
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May 13, 2010 5:53:22 AM

OK, so after doing some soul searching(budgeting), I've managed to allocate some more funds for the build. After researching forums/articles I think the following build will get pretty good bang for the buck. If you have any suggestions/replacements please let me know!

Case
Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drive
LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Writer LightScribe Support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU
XFX HD-587X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5870 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU
CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model 998832
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOBO
ASUS P6X58D-E LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU
Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cooling
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long life sleeve CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

With Mouse/Keyboard the total cost comes to $1737. Still price sensitive, so if I overdid one or two of the pieces, you won't hurt my feelings by pointing it out.

Edit: Also, had xfire in mind while building
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May 13, 2010 6:08:49 AM

Looks very good for a X58 build. The only thing that strikes me as a bit too expensive is the 1200, but if you like it, there is certainly nothing wrong with it.
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May 13, 2010 6:11:59 AM

My thought process was the more space to work with the better, being a newbie and all. Although I probably have no idea what I'm talking about.
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May 13, 2010 7:18:57 AM

Antec 1200 is a great case & you have a solid build!!

Only things I would recommend is:
1) Make sure to check each component to see if they have related combo deals for additional savings,
2)Checkout Newegg's facebook for promo codes for even more savings. I helped another OP tonight who found a code for roughly 1/2 off on the HAF 922 (final cost $75). If you find that code, please purchase the HAF 922 over the Antec 1200 at that price.
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May 13, 2010 10:26:29 AM

I have a 1200, and when I look at 900's and 902s they seem cramped, but it's because Ive been spoiled on my 1200. Just realize, it's heavy. ~37 lbs empty. ~60+ loaded up.

So what I recommend, is getting your wires right, your components right, and try not to move it around much :) 
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May 14, 2010 4:55:20 PM

Yeah, I changed it up to the HAF 932. Would 850 psu be enough for 2x 5870's and the rest of my gear? Or would 1000 be more prudent?
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May 14, 2010 5:13:49 PM

Yes, the Corsair 850TX is more than powerful enough for two 5870's
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