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May 11, 2010 2:28:51 PM

Hello to all!

I'm about to buy may new PC and would like help from TH community.

This is my two "options":

1.
SAPPHIRE HD 4870 X2, 2GB GDDR5, PCI-E, DVI, HDTV
GIGABYTE mother board GA-EX58A-UD7 X58
INTEL processor CORE I7 920, 2.66 Ghz, LGA1366, 8MB, BOX
CORSAIR RAM DDR3, 6GB, PC1600, TR3X6G1600C8D
ANTEC power unit TRUEPOWER QUATTRO 1000W
WD hard disk 1,5TB, 7200, 64MB, SATA2, 300 GREEN (WD15EARS)
GMC case H70, ATX MIDDLE, 1X120MM,1X140MM, 4XUSB
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1440 EUR

2.
SAPPHIRE graphic card RADEON HD 4850 X2, GDDR3 2X1024MB/256BIT
ASUS mother board P5Q DELUXE, LGA775, SB 7.1, GLAN
INTEL processor CORE 2 QUAD Q9300, 2.5 GHz, LGA775, 6MB, 1333 MHZ
OCZ RAM 2RPR10664GK 4GB (2X2GB) PC8500 DDR2
COOLER MASTER power unit PWS SILENT PRO M850W RS850-AMBAJ3-EU
WD hard disk 1,5TB, 7200, 64MB, SATA2, 300 GREEN (WD15EARS)
GMC case H70, ATX MIDDLE, 1X120MM,1X140MM, 4XUSB
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990 EUR

I buy PC every 6-7 years. I use it for watching films, games, and some serious work. I do not overclock.
Can you tell me is configuration 1 worth the extra money and will it be worth wile after 3 years because I usually do not upgrade (maybe extra graphic card for Crossfire after they get chipper)

Thanks for your help

Denis

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May 11, 2010 2:36:40 PM

Definitely not number 2. It's obsolete already (LGA775 and DDR2).

Frankly, both builds are pretty bad. You've got an older video card that won't last long, a baord that isn't future proof, a massive PSU that you will never use, and a slower HDD.

I would switch the board to a Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R. It's an excellent future proof board.

Next, I would switch the GPU to a new 5xxx model. The 5850 woudl be the minimum I would go. The 5870 would be perfect and the 5970 wouldn't need to be upgraded for a long, long time.

If you get the 5850/5870, a 750W PSU would be fine. The 5970 might need an 850W if you want the option to Crossfire it. Stick to Antec, Corsair, Silverstone and SeaSonic to ensure you get a quality unit.

That HDD is a slower model. I highly recommend picking up a Seagate 7200.12 1 TB or Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB. They'll be faster, cheaper, quieter and just all around better.

To get more specific advice than that, you should follow the guidelines (link in my signature)...
May 11, 2010 3:04:37 PM

Admiral is right, the cards are old technology. In option 1 you are building a Ferrari but putting a Ford Escort engine inside.

I would go for an in between build. 5850 or 5870 card, i5 750 and P55 mobo. The Hyper212+ cooler for OCing in the future. The HDD Admiral mentioned.
If you went with the i5 750 you only need 4gb dual channel RAM, though can get more if you really want
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May 11, 2010 3:14:18 PM

Hi newcomer and welcome to the Tom's hardware forum.

Agree with MadAdmiral, the 775 is a old socket.

Another option is go with a rig between both 1444 EUR and 990EUR, something with the i5 or i7-860 or AMD.
May 12, 2010 11:26:14 AM

Revised configuration

SAPPHIRE RADEON HD5870 1GB PCIE
GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R X58
INTEL CORE I7 930, 2.80 GHZ 8MB LGA1366 BOX
CORSAIR RAM DDR3, 6GB, PC1600, TR3X6G1600C8D
ANTEC TRUEPOWER QUATTRO 850W
GMC H70, ATX MIDDLE, 1X120MM,1X140MM, 4XUSB
SAMSUNG 1TB SATA2, 32/7200 - SPINPOINT F3
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1300 EUR

What is difference between Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R and GA-EX58A-UD7 X58 apart from price?

Am I getting closer MadAdmiral

Thank you

Denis
May 12, 2010 12:20:58 PM

Without looking at the two parts, I know that the UD7 has a higher power phase, which means it's slightly better for overclocking and a little more efficient. However, in terms of performance, there is basically no difference.

That's much better. I would check to see if you can find 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 sticks of RAM for about the same price. They'll be a little faster and be better if you overclock.

Also, I'm not sure what case that is, so if you want to stick with it, you need to make sure the 5870 will fit, as it's a pretty long card. If you want to look at some others, the Antec 900 or 902, HAF 922, Antec 1200 and Coolermaster Cosmos are all excellent cases.
May 12, 2010 2:12:56 PM

This is the link for the case http://www.gmc.co.kr/english/programs/read.php?board=PRODUCTS&uid=44&cp=1&field=&keyWord=&nation=&year=&month=&category=11&depth2=25
Do you think it would fit HD 5870

I don't give much about look of the rig. My PC is in the room where I sleep running 24/7 so no neon light for me or as little as possible.

What about this case http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=2970

RAM like CORSAIR RAM DOMINATOR DDR3, 3 X 2GB, 1600MHZ PC3-12800 CL7 (TR3X6G1600C7D) would be good?

Thank you

Denis
May 12, 2010 2:20:09 PM

I can't get through the link (I'm at work). It would be better if you just told me what case it is.

The 690 II is a great case, but I tend to think it's a little expensive for what you get. The regular 690 would be a better choice as it's a little cheaper.

That RAM would be perfect, assuming it's not costing you a lot more.
May 12, 2010 4:03:29 PM

COOLERMASTER 690 II RC-692 83,45 EUR Is this fair price?


GMC H-70 It look nice to me but it seem a bit small. What do you think?
Form factor ATX, Micro-ATX
Power supply ATX
Size 435(D) x 430(H) x 200(W)
Color Silver, Black
5.25" Bay 4 (External)
3.5" Bay 1 (External), 6 (Internal)
Multi port USB 2.0 x 4, Sound (Microphone, Earphone) port
Cooling system Front: 140mm cooling fan
Rear: 120mm cooling fan
Air hole for CPU, Air hole for PCI-Express
Expansion Port 7 Slots








Thank you
Denis
May 12, 2010 4:25:14 PM

That looks pretty small. I think it's about 17 inches long, where the Antec 300 is around 18.3 inches, and the 5870 is a tight fit in it.

As for the 690 II being a fair price, it depends on what some other things cost over there. I'd compare it to the HAF 922 and Antec 902. These are easily two of the best cases out there, and are generally about the same price as the 690 II, which makes it a poor value over here.
May 12, 2010 4:40:19 PM

ANTEC NINE HUNDRED TWO 112,72 EUR
COOLERMASTER MIDT HAF 922, RC-922M 98,00 EUR
May 12, 2010 4:42:41 PM

Then the 690 is fairly priced and would do fine.
May 12, 2010 4:53:28 PM

Thank you MadAdmiral for all your help on my new PC.

Denis :D 

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