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July 18, 2010 4:06:01 PM

Greetings from Spain!
I am a professional chess player.
I need to buy a powerfull desktop computer dedicated for chess playing/analyzing.
The computer i am trying to buid has only one purpose: to support my home preparation and analyses between tournaments. When I am traveling I use my notebook with all my databases. However, I need a more powerful computer at home so I am study my games more deeply.
Can anyone give me some ideas for a chess computer based on whats good quality and value right now (processor, memory, motherboard, etc)?

I have aprox. 1800€ to spend.

I look forward your kindly help.
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July 18, 2010 4:50:44 PM

the software u use, is it multithreaded or single threaded
July 18, 2010 5:46:18 PM

The chess software (Deep Rybka 4, Deep Fritz 12, etc.) is multithreaded x64 bit and needs fast DDR3 RAM.

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July 18, 2010 7:20:57 PM

The chess software (Deep Rybka 4, Deep Fritz 12, etc.) is multithreaded x64 bit and needs fast DDR3 RAM.

Which do you believe is the best CPU processor for chess playing (multithreaded) software programs?
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July 18, 2010 9:46:46 PM

I dont know if newegg ships to spain but this is a decent deal:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

and if you overclock you can find a simular deal on a 1055T and save $100 (us)

Integrated video is fine since it doesn't appear that you need anything stronger graphics-wise

And that board supports DDR3 overclock up to 2000mhz.
July 18, 2010 9:47:16 PM

The AMD processor Phenom II X6 1090T AM3 has 6 core.

Is not as good as Intel i7 9xx CPU for playing/analyzing chess games?
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July 18, 2010 10:09:15 PM

OC'd 29.29:


stock 23.54:
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July 18, 2010 10:16:21 PM

WELL yeh, thats what i said, so it basically boils down to are you, an intel or amd fan?
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July 18, 2010 10:21:13 PM

yes but a 1366 board is more expensive only to offer very simular performance. Money better spent elsewhere imo, like faster or more ram.

Here is a stock Xeon DP rig scoring 46.48. not sure what his siytem setup is but Wow!
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July 18, 2010 10:33:26 PM

6 cores 12 threads 1840 mhz ddr3 tripple channel cas 7, ofcorse it goes like hell
July 18, 2010 10:37:02 PM

xaira said:
WELL yeh, thats what i said, so it basically boils down to are you, an intel or amd fan?


I am nobody fan!

I'm just intending to build up a computer dedicated for chess playing/analyzing.

I want the best performance for less money. :D 

I have +/- 1800 euros to spend and I want to spend them wisely.

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July 18, 2010 10:40:46 PM

oh well then since you put it like that, the amd hexacore will serve you the same dish for 1/4 the price if you decide on a cheapscate board that is
July 18, 2010 10:58:21 PM

xaira said:
oh well then since you put it like that, the amd hexacore will serve you the same dish for 1/4 the price if you decide on a cheapscate board that is



And what you think about instaling 2 (two!) Phenom II X6 1090T processors in the same dual motherboard?

That would increase in playing strength.

Do you know if is that possible (2 processors in the same motherboard)?
July 18, 2010 11:09:07 PM

no you can't put two amd 1090t in same mainbord
the opteron in amd and xenon in intel.these are for server and you can 2 or 4 of them in same mainboard.
so you want just chess ?
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July 18, 2010 11:16:16 PM

sounds like you got money to burn dude, if so, 980X@ 4.5ghz
July 18, 2010 11:19:53 PM

It's a pity... :fou: 

Yes i am trying to build a desktop computer dedicated for chess playing/analyzing.

Do you have suggestions?
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July 19, 2010 2:18:31 AM

Capa, just checking, did you get your answer or information needed yet, or are you still waiting?

Looking through earlyer threads and there doesnt seem to be any good answers here on a complete build
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July 19, 2010 2:33:37 AM

Capablanca_05 said:
It's a pity... :fou: 

Yes i am trying to build a desktop computer dedicated for chess playing/analyzing.

Do you have suggestions?

For $1500 you have enough money for a dual socket intel xeon system or dual socket AMD system (6xxx series 12 core CPUs). the AMD system will have more cores (up to 24 cores) but the intel system will have faster clocks per core (up to 16 cores).
I'd check to make sure your software can support that many cores. I know windows 7 64-bit is limited to 256 cores and windows 7 32-bit is limited to 32 cores.

Also, what OS do these programs run on? I know windows 7 non-server is limited to 2 sockets.

According to the fritz chess benchmark someone in this thread linked to though, fritz chess can't really take advantage of more than 4 cpu cores. Then again, the printscreen linked to seems to contradict that... but the 965 quad beating out the 5420 dual quad core xeons (8 cores)? Then again, we have an E5506 quad core at 2.13GHz beating out an i7 920 at 2.77GHz so I don't exactly trust the benchmarks from that site.

I just ran the benchmark myself and got 15.83 score on my Athlon IIx4 clocked at 3.22GHz.

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July 19, 2010 2:37:37 AM

I'm going to go out on a limb and recommend something different from everyone else. I am going to recommend the Athlon IIx4 2.9GHz and overclock it if you are into that kind of thing. Put together a system for about $500. Next year bulldozer comes out. Put together a new system for $500-1000 that will own the Phenom IIx6. Then after that get something better in the next year or two. I believe it will be more cost-effective in the long run.
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July 19, 2010 2:42:51 AM

Ran it also just as comparison on processors
i7 920 OC 4.0ghz
"Relative speed" 28.78
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July 19, 2010 2:45:39 AM

Blckhaze said:
Ran it also just as comparison on processors
i7 920 OC 4.0ghz
"Relative speed" 28.78

well, it matches the phenom IIx6 in the printscreen then.
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July 19, 2010 7:05:20 AM

Considering the fact that you do not play regular games, there is an option for you to have a look at the i7 980x.It will cost 1000$.Since you have no need for a high end graphics card, the i7 980x build will fit into your budget.
July 19, 2010 10:28:35 AM

Does anyone knows if chess programs like Deep Fritz 12, Deep Rybka 4 and others use Nvidia' Compute Unified Device Architecture (CUDA) technology?
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July 19, 2010 4:12:27 PM

Capablanca_05 said:
Does anyone knows if chess programs like Deep Fritz 12, Deep Rybka 4 and others use Nvidia' Compute Unified Device Architecture (CUDA) technology?

I seriously doubt it.
July 19, 2010 4:18:22 PM

this is chess not crysis!!!!
July 19, 2010 4:58:51 PM

Alfred_i said:
see here:
http://sedatchess.110mb.com/index.php?p=1_13
but i agree with enzo matrix.next amd cpu bulldozer has 8core and it's multi-threaded 16core.it has 2 x fpu 128bit which is best for you.



Considering the BenchMarksc the best option is Intel i7 920 (or higher) and not AMD phenom IIx6 don't you think?
July 19, 2010 5:18:01 PM

yesss so if you have a lot threads on cpu you will see better result!!!
i7-980x is verrry powerfull cpu but i don't think that you need to have this cpu for palying chess.like me: i have a 5870 graphic card and almost of my games play well.for example far cry 2!!!on 1920 resolution it has 50 fps!!!and it run well and i enjoy it.but i can put 3 CF 5870 and run it on 100fps!!but must pay 800$ over it!!!is it good deal ?no it's not.because it's not a very noticable advantage!!!
in my opinion!!!
buy a core i7 930 or 920.930 overclocks better than 920!!!and a mid range x58 mainbord!over 930 to 3.6 or higher(i see many people reach to 4ghz) and buy a 6gb triple channel ram corsiar in my opinion.and if you want paly games buy a good graphic card like gtx460 or gtx 470!!!
you can beat kasparov with this cpu!!!!(i am kidding)
for overclocking a lot of site exists that overclock core i7 930!!you can use them.and you can use overclocking thread.search and see what the people do for that.
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