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July 18, 2010 6:54:07 PM

Is my C.P.U the main bottle neck of my computer and will upgradeing to the new cpu i posted make it use it to the full exent and improve my performance at least 20-50% in games that recommend quad core

i currently have Athlon 64x2 5000+ 2.6 dual core am2 not even plus Q_Q so it doesnt benefit from the hypertransport 3.0 my motherboard has.

I plan on upgradeing to a amd phenom 9850 quad 2.5ghz am2+. Judgeing by benchmark on some places its like x2.5 more better than my cpu i just wanted to ask before i bought it.

Forgot to put in my other specs
650 watt power supply
9800gtx+ which i think is bottlenecked by my cpu
4gb of 800mhz ram
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July 18, 2010 7:10:11 PM

i don't know about the 9850 being 2.5x better

game performance increase will vary depending on the game
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/32?vs=29

its definitely an improvement but to be honest, the first phenoms where not that great when they launched and that was a while ago in terms of CPU life.
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July 18, 2010 7:16:00 PM

well the particuarly game im playing recommends quad core battlefield 2 bad company and all points bullentin the battlefield runs great but apb runs pretty bad. and i think you selected wrong cpu even tho its just a 2-5 decrease on most of the things there for the athlon one
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July 18, 2010 7:17:10 PM

my other option is a the 940 or 920 but they require 125watt ive heard people saying they used it on this motherboard but the design spec is 95w
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July 18, 2010 7:42:00 PM

the 920 and 940 are phenom II quad cores, completely different series from the phenom x4 quad like the 9850. it also the one I selected and stated its not that great in the linked benchmarks. it is not 2.5 better then the athlon x2.
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July 18, 2010 9:12:59 PM

If you can run a Phenom II at all you'll probably be able to use the 945, its 95w
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July 18, 2010 9:15:17 PM

Phenom 9850 is a 125W part. Actually consumes more power than the Phenom II 920/940, or any other Phenom II or Athlon II quad for that matter.
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July 18, 2010 10:06:55 PM

Don't buy one of the old Phenoms. Get a Phenom II, they will work fine. While the Phenoms are faster mhz per mhz, what you really need is simply more mhz. If you drop in a PII at 3ghz or faster, you are going to see about a 30-50% jump on average in your frame rates, depending on what game you are playing. The big speed difference you will see is when you are doing something that can use all 4 cores of the Phenom II, like encoding. I would say encoding a DVD would easily be 2-3 times faster than your current CPU can do.
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July 19, 2010 12:03:28 AM

What resolution are you playing at?
It seems to me that the 9800GTX+ is not that strong of a card either.

Try these tests to see if you can properly identify your limiting component:


1) Run your games, but reduce the resolution and eye candy to a minimum. This will simulate what will happen if you upgrade to a stronger graphics card. If your FPS improves, it indicates that your cpu is capable of driving a stronger graphics card to higher levels of FPS.

2) Keeping your graphics resolution and settings the same, reduce your cpu power. Do this by removing the overclock, or by using windows power management to set a maximum cpu% of perhaps 70%. If your FPS drops significantly, it indicates that your current cpu is a limiting factor, and that a faster cpu would help.
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July 19, 2010 1:12:49 AM

phenom 9850 BE is a 125watt there is also a 95watt one if you check there site out
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July 19, 2010 1:14:57 AM

my motherboard is limited to am2+ cpu so it has to be 9850 the 95watt verison or 920 or 940 but those are 125watt and im not sure if it will run on my motherboard a Evga 730a Nforce and i play at 1680x1050 and the particuarly game i play recommends quad core and is really needed as everyone with dual cores in that game has problems and according to the site my board can only use 920 and 940 with a bios update of the phenom 2 series still worried about the wattage. It Runs on Unreal engine 3 which from what ive heard is a cpu hog engine.And when i play the game the cpu is at 100% usage and never drops my video card on other hand is at 70-80% usage

http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-de... link to the 95watt 9850
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July 19, 2010 4:19:27 AM

ct1615 said:
the evga 730a supports Phenom II 920 & 940

http://www.evga.com/support/motherboard/


P.S. why does evga even make AMD motherboards?? they obviously could care less about AMD


No idea, but I've got to give you props for finding cpu compatibility for that board, I was searching Evga's website for a good 15min and gave up. lol
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July 25, 2010 3:10:52 PM

ya i checked the cpus supported and that is the last bios upgrade for this motherboard is the phenom 2 940 and 920 AM+2.
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