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May 13, 2010 10:55:14 AM

Cheapest Budget Gaming build with low electricity consumption


APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: this month
BUDGET RANGE: 300-350 Before / After Rebates, but playable in all latest games on decent settings.

(my build @ $310.96)

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, surfing the net.

PARTS REQUIRED: Processor, Motherboard, RAM and Graphics card.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com, ncix.com -- to show us selection & pricing
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: Philippines

OVERCLOCKING: No SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1440x900 (i'm using samsung 17" at 1440 x 900 res. my target is all latest games playable on decent settings.... )

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: low electricity consumption is very important.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: ( I need 100 units of gaming pc for internet gaming cafe use )
1. Low cost gaming build.
2. Durable parts for heavy use like 15 to 20 hours a day.
3. Less Electricity consumption.
4. The gaming build should be cool no fans needed just one built in auxiliary fan.
5. Motherboard that can withstand frequent brownouts, cause in my country brown out happens almost everyday.
6. I do have lots of Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 so i'm not going to ddr3.



Gaming build post 1 if anybody can suggest gaming build that can beat this one please post any help would be much appreciated.


AMD Athlon II X2 240 Regor 2.8GHz $56.99


GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX $79.99


Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) $103.99


SAPPHIRE 100295HDMI Radeon HD 4670 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 $69.99




Total : $310.96

Gaming build post 2 in this gaming build do you think the hd 5770 is overkill at this res. 1440x900? is the price increase worth it? Will the performance increase a lot?

AMD Athlon II X3 435 Rana 2.9GHz & 1. GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro $130.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.382155

Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) $103.99


POWERCOLOR AX5770 1GBD5-H Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 $149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814131330


Total : $384.96


Gaming build post 3

AMD Athlon II X3 425 Rana 2.7GHz 3 x 512KB $70.00



Biostar A780LE

Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) $103.99


XFX HD-567X-YNFC Radeon HD 5670 (Redwood) 512MB 128-bit DDR5 $89.99


Total : $
a b 4 Gaming
May 13, 2010 11:02:55 AM

Just curious : if u had lots of DDR2 on hand why include cost of DDR2 2 x 2 in your budget?
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May 13, 2010 12:57:01 PM

batuchka said:
Just curious : if u had lots of DDR2 on hand why include cost of DDR2 2 x 2 in your budget?



good question hmmmm! maybe i just put it there so that everybody can see what model and brand of memory iv got. price i just put it there. and the reason why i have plenty of reserve is that everybody was saying that memory will increase price in a few months. That’s why i bought plenty of those :)  post new gaming build please if you have :)  thanks in advance
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May 13, 2010 10:57:06 PM

What monitor resolution and what level of gaming performance are you looking for.
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May 14, 2010 1:42:54 AM

AT 1440x900 a 5770 is overkill, but the combo package that zooted noted is a great deal. Better processor and cheaper, too, than what you had. Video card wise I'd look into spending the savings on an HD5670. Quite a bit faster than the 4670 and uses less power (still doesn't need an auxilary power connector).

I noticed you didn't include the power supply and case. Any particular reason? The PSU is your first line of defense for brownouts/surges. The motherboard will rarely have any issues with brownouts as the PSU takes the brunt of the damage...at least in 95% of the issues I've seen with bad power and the number of cheapo PSUs I've replaced over 15 years of doing this stuff.

And yeah...I miss the days of $50 2x2Gb DDR2 kits. Sigh.
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May 14, 2010 4:47:54 AM

dkapke said:
AT 1440x900 a 5770 is overkill, but the combo package that zooted noted is a great deal. Better processor and cheaper, too, than what you had. Video card wise I'd look into spending the savings on an HD5670. Quite a bit faster than the 4670 and uses less power (still doesn't need an auxilary power connector).

I noticed you didn't include the power supply and case. Any particular reason? The PSU is your first line of defense for brownouts/surges. The motherboard will rarely have any issues with brownouts as the PSU takes the brunt of the damage...at least in 95% of the issues I've seen with bad power and the number of cheapo PSUs I've replaced over 15 years of doing this stuff.

And yeah...I miss the days of $50 2x2Gb DDR2 kits. Sigh.



thanks a lot in the Philippines brownout starts last 2 months because of power shortage now it is still going on my technician told me almost every other day there is a damage power supply that is the reason frequent brownout. If you didn’t post i don’t know why i thought it is old already. Thanks man  i bought 400 pcs @ $48 2x2Gb DDR2 kits before so iv'e got plente of reserve. post a good gaming build please thanks in advance......
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May 14, 2010 5:00:42 AM

dndhatcher said:
What monitor resolution and what level of gaming performance are you looking for.




i'm using samsung 17" at 1440 x 900 res. my target is all latest games playable on decent settings....
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a b 4 Gaming
May 14, 2010 7:24:08 AM

Hmm if u looking for low cost yet addressing most/all games (multi and not multi cored optimised) currently and a few years down the road @ 1440 x 900 An AthlonII X2 is not exactly far cheaper than its X3 counterpart and make no mistake: the latter will give u better frames in stuff like Left 4 Dead 2, GTA IV and Dragons Age Origins

Rana 4xx (cheapest one)
AM2+ 760g/780LE (cheap with 2 DIMM, max em out with your 2 x 2 DDR2)
GPU: now i would say try to hit a HD 4770, HD 5670, GTS 250 or HD 4850 whichever is cheapest but the HD 5670 edges it with lowest power consumption while being far better than HD 4670 at 1440 x 900

Here is data for 1280 x 1024 which is about the same or just a wee bit more demanding than 1440 x 900 res ^^



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May 14, 2010 8:06:42 AM

batuchka said:
Hmm if u looking for low cost yet addressing most/all games (multi and not multi cored optimised) currently and a few years down the road @ 1440 x 900 An AthlonII X2 is not exactly far cheaper than its X3 counterpart and make no mistake: the latter will give u better frames in stuff like Left 4 Dead 2, GTA IV and Dragons Age Origins

Rana 4xx (cheapest one)
AM2+ 760g/780LE (cheap with 2 DIMM, max em out with your 2 x 2 DDR2)
GPU: now i would say try to hit a HD 4770, HD 5670, GTS 250 or HD 4850 whichever is cheapest but the HD 5670 edges it with lowest power consumption while being far better than HD 4670 at 1440 x 900

Here is data for 1280 x 1024 which is about the same or just a wee bit more demanding than 1440 x 900 res ^^
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q205/batuchka/500x_cod_1280_01.jpg
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q205/batuchka/coj2_1280_1024.gif
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q205/batuchka/FO3_1280.png



can you give me a detailed specs your choice of gaming build i'll post it on gaming build #3 thanks a lot for giving me an option :) 
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May 14, 2010 8:17:19 AM

Well since u are in the Philiphines , am unaware of h/w prices there but a general template

AthlonII X3 425
2 X 2 DDR2
Biostar A780LE
HD 5670
good if u could squeeze in an 80+ 500 watter for PSU
case with hopefully 2 x 120mm for intake/exhaust
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May 14, 2010 4:31:46 PM

batuchka said:
Well since u are in the Philiphines , am unaware of h/w prices there but a general template

AthlonII X3 425
2 X 2 DDR2
Biostar A780LE
HD 5670
good if u could squeeze in an 80+ 500 watter for PSU
case with hopefully 2 x 120mm for intake/exhaust



Biostar A780LE ( please find me this mobo on the net can't find this model, i already post your gaming build )


your gaming build seems to be a good one in the near future but why did you choose Biostar A780LE, i'v heard many good things about this brand but haven't try it yet do you think this mobo can withstand a heavy gaming use of 15 to 20 hours everyday? and do you the mobo will last for 5 years? cause ive been using asus for a very long time and it serves me good :)  thanks for the reply :) 
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May 15, 2010 12:41:10 PM

In some parts on the world especially Asia that would be the cheapest and most readily available AM2+ mobo and i have personally built with it :p  If one does not OC via application of heavy Vcore and such these little mobos can last and i take it you aren't planning any crazy clocking hehe
Product linky
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/content.php?S_ID=45...
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May 15, 2010 4:16:45 PM

batuchka said:
In some parts on the world especially Asia that would be the cheapest and most readily available AM2+ mobo and i have personally built with it :p  If one does not OC via application of heavy Vcore and such these little mobos can last and i take it you aren't planning any crazy clocking hehe
Product linky
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/content.php?S_ID=45...




i'm a little bit affraid of this mobo too cheap plus it is a AMD 760G, do you think motherboard chipset matters this is a AMD 760G vs 780 or 785? whats the difference? and thanks for the info you post here :)  keep up the good work :) 
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May 16, 2010 5:25:31 AM

The difference between 760 vs 780/785 are

IGP
Radeon 3000 - no Universal Video Decoder i.e UVD : 760G (not recommended for Blu Ray) If using modern discrete GPU irrellevant
HD 3200/4200: 780/785G

SB 700 for earlier 760/780Gs (but not in this model) Most 780G didn't get a refresh so are on SB 700 and hence no ACC (Advanced Clock Calibration)

DIMM slots
760G being entry level AM2+ for the most part have just the 2 DIMM slots

As said have built lots off these for stock/light OC users so no worries ^^
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May 16, 2010 6:46:49 AM

batuchka said:
The difference between 760 vs 780/785 are

IGP
Radeon 3000 - no Universal Video Decoder i.e UVD : 760G (not recommended for Blu Ray) If using modern discrete GPU irrellevant
HD 3200/4200: 780/785G

SB 700 for earlier 760/780Gs (but not in this model) Most 780G didn't get a refresh so are on SB 700 and hence no ACC (Advanced Clock Calibration)

DIMM slots
760G being entry level AM2+ for the most part have just the 2 DIMM slots

As said have built lots off these for stock/light OC users so no worries ^^



do you have a site that i can read all about this chipset stuff...... thanks a lot :)  you really have than your research before buying this mobo good job :) 
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May 16, 2010 7:58:11 PM

batuchka said:
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/chipsets/7-serie...
Research is definitely crucial - though i have a day job i moonlight as a systems builder as a home business on the side :p  Of course i advise peeps not to treat an entry level board like an enthusiast one lol


yeah this is it :)  well upon reading all the AMD mobo chipsets, i think AMD 770X Chipset suit my needs, cause this is really built for gaming plus no built in video and with cheap price, the only downside, this is a little bit higher in price compare to AMD 760G Chipset. And another thing that annoys me in AMD 760G Chipset is the word novice: ( for novice gamers.) :)  any comment on this one :)  hehehe Thaks very much :) 

The AMD 760G Chipset with ATI Radeon™ 3000 graphics combines the performance of DirectX® 10 with a price that’s hard to beat. Paired with an AMD Athlon™ X2 dual-core processor, the system is perfect for everyday computing for your home or home business. Systems based on the AMD 760G chipset and AMD Athlon dual-core processors are loaded with some of today’s latest technologies that are ideal for downloading media, sharing files, or for novice gamers. Get one now and see for yourself!

Plus... please recommend what mobo suit my needs at least 3 different brands for availability in my country plus I can compare prices whichever is lower, and good service like long warranty period etc. So here are brands that I like are msi, asus, biostar, gigabyte..... and thanks for this post 
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May 17, 2010 12:32:27 AM

I'd go with the 760G, 780G or if affordable the 785G. That way any problems with discrete graphic cards won't shut down the PC. There's always going to be people playing the type of low demand games that don't require the extra power and cost of the discrete graphic card. Didn't ASUS have a corporate model 760G mobo available? For power supply i'd go with a decent model 400w, OCZ, Seasonic, Corsair or the 400w Antec.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphic card the 4670, 9600GT or 9800GT (some 9800GT like this Palit are low power models with no 6 pin connector)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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May 17, 2010 1:47:20 AM

dirtmountain said:
I'd go with the 760G, 780G or if affordable the 785G. That way any problems with discrete graphic cards won't shut down the PC. There's always going to be people playing the type of low demand games that don't require the extra power and cost of the discrete graphic card. Didn't ASUS have a corporate model 760G mobo available? For power supply i'd go with a decent model 400w, OCZ, Seasonic, Corsair or the 400w Antec.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphic card the 4670, 9600GT or 9800GT (some 9800GT like this Palit are low power models with no 6 pin connector)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Hi there! Nice to hear from you, it’s been a long time and your still active here....please recommend what mobo suit my needs at least 3 different brands for availability in my country plus I can compare prices whichever is lower, and good service like long warranty period etc. So here are brands that I like are msi, asus, biostar, gigabyte..... and thanks for this post
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May 17, 2010 7:22:33 AM

dirtmountain said:
My personal experience with Biostar has been very good, same with MSI and Gigabyte. I'd probably get the 785 G if it's close in price with with the 760G.

This one has a - $15 code.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



nice now i have lots of options thanks for the very fast reply :)  time is diamond nowadays :)  hehe hmmm in my own experiences sometimes buying the most cheapest mobo is sometimes risky...... and if your buying bad brand mobo your surely dead :)  P but buying good brand mobo like msi, asus, gigabyte and biostar maybe it will last :)  maybe....
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May 17, 2010 7:30:54 AM

Biostar does not have the reputation that Asus, Gigabyte and MSI do, in fact most people are a bit leery of them. All I can say is that from my own experience they've performed very well.
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May 17, 2010 7:53:51 AM

dirtmountain said:
Biostar does not have the reputation that Asus, Gigabyte and MSI do, in fact most people are a bit leery of them. All I can say is that from my own experience they've performed very well.



yeah that is also what my friend said here in the Philippines, he is selling biostar board for allmost 3 to 4 years and his happy with performance..... and thanks now i can choose very wisely hope it will be a ood one.... :) 
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May 19, 2010 5:26:17 PM

dirtmountain said:
Biostar does not have the reputation that Asus, Gigabyte and MSI do, in fact most people are a bit leery of them. All I can say is that from my own experience they've performed very well.




Gaming build (to everybody who knows about computer stuff please comment on this build thank you)

AMD Athlon II X2 240 Regor 2.8GHz $56.99
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Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) $103.99
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SAPPHIRE 100295HDMI Radeon HD 4670 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 $69.99
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here are the 2 mobo that i like, if you were in my place which mobo would you choose the price difference in my country asus is cheaper than gigabyte the difference is $6.50. I will buy 100pcs. So 100 x 6.50 = $650. (Reminders that the price in newegg is not thesame in the philippines)

GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX $79.99
85G%20HDM]


ASUS M4A78L-M AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 760G HDMI Micro ATX $64.99
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May 19, 2010 6:03:48 PM

I'd go with the cheaper Asus board. Good luck with all those builds.
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May 19, 2010 6:39:22 PM

dirtmountain said:
I'd go with the cheaper Asus board. Good luck with all those builds.



I'm happy and confident with this gaming build, i will try one set of this gaming build first, And if this build won't be enough i'l upgrade the video card.... and keep it touch with you guys again :)  if it is good enough i'l order bulk.... and by the way thanks again :)  hope to see you on my next gaming build :) 
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