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July 19, 2010 9:33:10 AM

Which is better the i5-650 3.2GHz 4MB dual core or the AMD Phenom II 925 2.80GHz 8MB Quad core?

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July 19, 2010 9:46:07 AM

for gaming purpose u want to go i5...
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July 19, 2010 9:46:59 AM

There price points are way different.... Why would you go with the 925, if the price point of the 650 is the price of a 955/965?
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July 19, 2010 9:48:08 AM

but im confused how can the i5-650 be better if its dual core and 4mb? when the 925 is 8mb and quad core?
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July 19, 2010 9:50:55 AM

The i5 is better for gaming because many games don't even utilize the 4 cores, therefore the dual core is more efficient than the quad. An example is TF2, just recently to increase the performance of quad cores, they released a patch. Therefore the game was coded to run faster on dual cores. In Encoding and video editing multi-tasking, the 925 would be the better choice.
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July 19, 2010 11:21:39 AM

Don't go with the i5 6xx series, either buy an i3 or i5 750, the i5 650 isn't much different from the i3 but it is significantly more expensive.
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July 19, 2010 11:24:44 AM

i3-550 or i5-750, how much different will they be in performance??
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July 19, 2010 11:41:13 AM

The performance difference from 550 to 750 is really huge, even though the gap is only 50$ the 750 can OC pretty close to how much a i3 550 can, but also it can do multitasking, video-encoding, editing stuff like that much faster than the i3 550. Also, i'm pretty sure the graphical performance of the 750 is better. IF you can spare the extra 50$ go with the 750, if you can't go AMD and go with the 955.
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July 19, 2010 11:48:37 AM

im thinking im going to go with the 955 unless told otherwise because its cheaper and ive always liked AMD systems....
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July 19, 2010 12:30:15 PM

westham101 said:
im thinking im going to go with the 955 unless told otherwise because its cheaper and ive always liked AMD systems....


Should be a 'slam dunk' to run the PhII 925 at 14x240MHz and bring the IMC/NB to 2400MHz. With good air (and mobo) you will zoom past that.

A Phenom is a Phenom is a Phenom. I guess it depends on where you want to be at the 'high end'. You will certainly be approaching the 4GHz range with the 955 versus 3.5-3.7GHz with the 925.

The 'bottom line' will also depend upon your gaming setup --- the higher you go will your resolution, the greater the emphasis on the video card.

With this PhII 925 combo you could toss in an HD5770, HD & optical and be off and running for $600.

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July 19, 2010 1:30:47 PM

Spen 20$$ more and get the xeon x3440. Its basically a underclocked i7 860. its a quad with hyperthreading too. It wokrs on p55 boards (regardless of the cpu compatbility chart)
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July 19, 2010 1:39:12 PM

intels 6xx series is absurdly priced most or all of them are above the price of the phenoms, a few are above the price of the i5 750, and 1 or 2 are above the price of the i7 930!

650 vs 965 (both at 179.99):

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=145

750 vs 661 (both at about 200$)

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/109?vs=117

920 vs 670 (about 300$)

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/47?vs=145

they might win in synthetic becnhmarks, but in almost all real world applications, they arent nearly as good. if this is for gaming, i recommend either and i3 530, or an amd 955/925, or and x3 440, all of which will oc well, the x3 MIGHT unlock, and will save you quite a bit.



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July 19, 2010 1:43:40 PM

blazing angel said:
Spen 20$$ more and get the xeon x3440. Its basically a underclocked i7 860. its a quad with hyperthreading too. It wokrs on p55 boards (regardless of the cpu compatbility chart)


great find there btw, hows the heat on it?
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July 19, 2010 2:24:19 PM

ares1214 said:
great find there btw, hows the heat on it?

should be about the same as they are both 95w TDP

@OP, don't get the i5-6xx series, go for the i5-750, or Phenom II X4 925 (though fro the price you should be able to find the 955/965), or even get the Athlon II X3 for a budget system
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July 19, 2010 2:40:32 PM

hahah +1 to that, which is basically a +1 to what i said. and really? i saw that it had higher heat, but could also take a lot more heat.
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July 19, 2010 2:47:42 PM

ares1214 said:
hahah +1 to that, which is basically a +1 to what i said. and really? i saw that it had higher heat, but could also take a lot more heat.


actually i think that would be a +1 to about 5 different people, though i would have probably said it myself
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July 19, 2010 3:52:49 PM

i dont have it yet, but i've been doing research on the x3440. i suggest you go for that. it's a lynifeld, and you can oc it to the same speeds as the 750, but it also has hyper threading. its a lot more futureproof. besides, since its a xeon, its binne better, and since its for a server, its made to run at 100% load all the time
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July 19, 2010 10:16:19 PM

Wisecracker said:
Should be a 'slam dunk' to run the PhII 925 at 14x240MHz and bring the IMC/NB to 2400MHz. With good air (and mobo) you will zoom past that.

A Phenom is a Phenom is a Phenom. I guess it depends on where you want to be at the 'high end'. You will certainly be approaching the 4GHz range with the 955 versus 3.5-3.7GHz with the 925.

The 'bottom line' will also depend upon your gaming setup --- the higher you go will your resolution, the greater the emphasis on the video card.

With this PhII 925 combo you could toss in an HD5770, HD & optical and be off and running for $600.


Here is the parts im getting-

CPU: AMD AM3 Phenom II x4 955, 3.20GHz, Quad-Core.
Motherboard: Asus M4A79XTD-EVO.
Graphics Card: HIS 1GB 5850 PCI-E VGA card
Hard Drive: SATA Seagate 500GB HDD .
Optical Drive: SATA Samsung Black DVD-RW.
RAM: G.Skill-NT 4GB DDR3 1333MHz.
Case: Antec 200v2
Power Supply: Corsair TX-650watt

should be a decent setup yeh?
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July 19, 2010 11:08:12 PM

wait, whats your budget? i can get you a better build.
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July 19, 2010 11:14:09 PM

If you get the HIS 5850 make sure its the icooler V, also for case I'd recommend just paying a little more for the Antec 300 Illusion. Or since CM is having sales on Newegg, the CM Scout is a good deal with the PSU it combo's with. Like this. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
or the Haf 922
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Or you could just stick with yours. I'm just thinking for future if you get a card that is a bit longer. Anyway, for the HD don't get Seagate. Get a Samsung F3 500gb hdd. It's much faster and at the same cost.
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July 20, 2010 6:17:13 AM

ares1214 said:
wait, whats your budget? i can get you a better build.

$1000-$1100 australian dollars
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July 20, 2010 6:26:06 AM

aznshinobi said:
If you get the HIS 5850 make sure its the icooler V, also for case I'd recommend just paying a little more for the Antec 300 Illusion. Or since CM is having sales on Newegg, the CM Scout is a good deal with the PSU it combo's with. Like this. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
or the Haf 922
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Or you could just stick with yours. I'm just thinking for future if you get a card that is a bit longer. Anyway, for the HD don't get Seagate. Get a Samsung F3 500gb hdd. It's much faster and at the same cost.



Im pretty sure that the Antec 200 actually has more space for a video card.... also the place that im getting the parts from sell the Samsung SATA 1TB but not 500gb.....
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July 20, 2010 1:29:15 PM

dont get the 200, its a very very low level case. and the samsung is going to be a little better than the seagate, so its up to you.
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July 20, 2010 8:05:50 PM

YES Ares agrees with me +1 for ares
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July 20, 2010 8:25:40 PM

For about $40 more than the 955 you can get the 1055T which OC's to about the same Mhz plus its more futureproff as more games begin to use more cores efficiently IMO.

For example COD:MW2 can make good use of it and Benchmarks it above an i7-975 and we haven't even put it up to 4ghz yet...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-phenom-ii-x6-10...

btw - 1055T is a slowed down version of the 1090T. Both are otherwise the same and both will OC to the same point.
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July 20, 2010 9:14:41 PM

if this is for gaming, the 1055T is a bad choice. if it isnt for gaming, well it still might be a bad choice. If this is for video editing then it is a marvelous choice.
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July 20, 2010 10:36:10 PM

ares1214 said:
dont get the 200, its a very very low level case. and the samsung is going to be a little better than the seagate, so its up to you.


Ok, ill look into other cases its just its cheap and its about the size i want, will the 300 be better?
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July 20, 2010 10:48:30 PM

what would you say your budget on the case is? and the antec 300 illusion is a very good case, but there are some good/better deals out there.
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July 21, 2010 12:32:30 AM

Or you could go with the CM Storm Scout, right now there actually a lot cheaper than usual at Newegg for only 79.99, which is a pretty good deal off of 99.99. The case itself is phenomenal to as it is a solid case with quiet stock cooling unlike antec cases.
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July 21, 2010 12:38:52 AM

it all depends on his budget though, but that is definitely one of the cases id recommend at around 80$.
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