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P8P67 Pro + Slow Splash Screen Boot

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January 31, 2011 3:11:34 AM

Just put together a brand new sandy bridge build with the P8P67 Pro, and I've noticed the windows 7 (x64) splash screen hangs for about 10-15 seconds longer than it did on my old build. I'm running an intel x-25 SSD as my boot drive, and a 7200RPM 500GB WD HDD as storage. Same drives, didn't reformat when switching between builds. No hang indications from any programs in windows.

I was curious if anyone else had this issue or has any suggestions? Both drives are running on the intel 6gb/s connectors and I have my asus dvd burner and the e-sata front panel connector both running on the marvell 6gb/s connectors. Running stock settings for SATA in AHCI mode. Tried IDE as well, but it didn't change anything. BIOS v1204. Tried searching for the solution, but all I found were people having extremely long boot times BEFORE it hits the windows splash screen.

a b V Motherboard
January 31, 2011 3:47:32 AM

chicagohawk said:
Just put together a brand new sandy bridge build with the P8P67 Pro, and I've noticed the windows 7 (x64) splash screen hangs for about 10-15 seconds longer than it did on my old build. I'm running an intel x-25 SSD as my boot drive, and a 7200RPM 500GB WD HDD as storage. Same drives, didn't reformat when switching between builds. No hang indications from any programs in windows.

I was curious if anyone else had this issue or has any suggestions? Both drives are running on the intel 6gb/s connectors and I have my asus dvd burner and the e-sata front panel connector both running on the marvell 6gb/s connectors. Running stock settings for SATA in AHCI mode. Tried IDE as well, but it didn't change anything. BIOS v1204. Tried searching for the solution, but all I found were people having extremely long boot times BEFORE it hits the windows splash screen.


"If you are experiencing long boot up times (greater than 30 seconds) or slow performance of SATA HDD or SSDs, please remove Intel RST 10.1.1008 if you have it installed and use the Intel boxed AHCI driver in Windows 7 or Windows VISTA"
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=26...
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January 31, 2011 4:05:13 AM

I did find that thread while searching, however, I do not have Intel RST installed, so it cannot be that. Sorry I didn't add it in the OP. Just also tried right now to unplug the e-sata connector and the dvd burner from the marvell 6gb/s connectors and put the dvd burner into a normal intel 3gb/s connector. Also had both the SSD and HDD run off of the 3gb/s connectors a little while ago as well. Didn't think it was the problem anyway, but thought I'd include the info.
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a b V Motherboard
January 31, 2011 4:50:38 AM

chicagohawk said:
I did find that thread while searching, however, I do not have Intel RST installed, so it cannot be that. Sorry I didn't add it in the OP. Just also tried right now to unplug the e-sata connector and the dvd burner from the marvell 6gb/s connectors and put the dvd burner into a normal intel 3gb/s connector. Also had both the SSD and HDD run off of the 3gb/s connectors a little while ago as well. Didn't think it was the problem anyway, but thought I'd include the info.


Yep i was going to say..try the bottom ports (manual 2-20),navy blue and light blue are for ATA6.0,have my C300 on navy and it's fast :D 
ASUS support #(888) 678-3688
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January 31, 2011 5:36:07 AM

I may try reformatting before I call support...though I really didn't want to do that :( 

I just hate talking to support. Who doesn't?
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a b V Motherboard
January 31, 2011 5:50:00 AM

chicagohawk said:
I may try reformatting before I call support...though I really didn't want to do that :( 

I just hate talking to support. Who doesn't?


I tell you there is nothing better like fresh install,good luck
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a b V Motherboard
January 31, 2011 1:56:05 PM

Only have the SSD installed when you install Windows 7.

Then add the backup drive afterwards.

I've found that this solves several issues.
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February 2, 2011 11:35:32 PM

Thanks for the tip.

I did do a complete reformat and only had my SSD plugged in when I formatted and booted, however, the 10-15 second hang still exists =/.

Looks like I might call asus tech support when I get a chance in a day or two. Anyone else have any suggestions or have experienced this issue?
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a c 716 V Motherboard
February 2, 2011 11:54:07 PM

Today I saw another thread with an OCZ, but the problem was worst.

There's a new firmware update for several of the x25's -> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/detail_desc.aspx?agr=y&...

You'll probably need to reformat if used. Also, in some cases a Clear CMOS has helped.
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a c 716 V Motherboard
February 3, 2011 12:07:46 AM

BTW - in your Device Manager tree are there any "? or !" listed devices??
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February 3, 2011 3:07:40 AM

EDIT: nvm, I had 2, but I fixed them. Still have boot issues with the unknown devices now known.

I will try clearing the CMOS and then take a look at those firmware updates. Are you referring to a battery removal or just resetting the defaults?
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a c 716 V Motherboard
February 3, 2011 1:06:40 PM

I am referring to the 'jumper' method.

In addition, I would create a restore point then reinstall ALL Drivers especially the INF/chipset on the ASUS site for your MOBO + OS; the utilities for the most part aren't required especially 'ASUS' utilities. Windows places older drivers by default...

My best 'guess' in your situation is the pause is related to an IRQ conflict or other driver conflict being resolved pre-boot into windows. However, I am not ruling-out anything; you could have a bad MOBO or SSD -- the Drivers seem to be a red flag.
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February 3, 2011 5:31:54 PM

I will try that. I've already tried the jumper method multiple times, however.

One thing I keep forgetting to note is I have a G15 keyboard and G5 mouse; they light up when they're on. They're on throughout the boot process but when the splash screen hangs...they're on for about the first ten seconds and then turn off for about 3 seconds. After they turn on again, it goes to the welcome screen.

Keep in mind I had the same drivers for these devices before I built this new rig (ssd drive is the same). Im just curious what is happening to cause this and if the hang has to do with all my devices going on/off...its just that the keyboard/mouse are the only ones I can tell.

For now ill try those drivers again. Though im pretty sure when I reformatted and had no drivers installed on the first boot that it still hung. No problem reports are reported in windows from a hang
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a c 716 V Motherboard
February 3, 2011 9:15:55 PM

If you have a different KB/Mouse then try them to see if that's the problem. Many USB KB's are problematic for MOBOs; I've seen a cat chew the USB cables and cause a post failure. I would also pull anything non-essential, and maybe even run Memtest.

There are BIOS settings that can cause delays with certain components; though none come to mind. Fortunately, this seems more like a nuisance than a critical problem.
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February 4, 2011 1:48:32 AM

Just pulled the keyboard and mouse for the boot and nothing changed. Memtest may be a stretch, still, I will try running it when I get the chance. I also reinstalled the ASUS drivers including the intel chipset update with no avail.

I did, however, enable boot logging and took a look at the file. 5 drivers did not load:

Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\srv.sys

Is it possible these may be causing the hang? If so, I may have to do some deeper digging to find out what they are, however at the moment I've got to run. Possible solutions?
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a c 716 V Motherboard
February 4, 2011 2:47:42 AM

This can be indicative of a lot of things. Can be caused by the NIC drivers; try Device Manager, expand [+] Network Adapters, right-click Delete all entires and restart. Heck I've seen the AHCI cause the same problem, bad GPU drivers, etc; what BIOS changes have you made? Always, make certain that you install 32-bit drivers with 32-bit OS; same with 64-bit/64-bit drivers.

Next step; run MSCONFIG -> Diagnostic Mode & restart. Q - Does that correct the problem?
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February 4, 2011 3:54:23 AM

Well I ruled out a few more things with that. Deleting the network adapter entries did not work and I also have all 64 bit drivers for my 64 bit system. BIOS changes shouldn't have any affect, as stock settings had the same end result as my modified ones, which are just settings for my OC profile. I did try turning off SMART check for my drives and tried both AHCI and IDE mode.

Diagnostic Mode did not correct the problem. Wouldn't that indicate it's not a driver issue?

My next step is to update the firmware. No where in Intel's instructions does it say I need to reformat, why did you think I would probably have to? I'll get back with new firmware results.

EDIT: Firmware update helped a bit! Boot time from when it posts now is 30 seconds. I believe my boot time with my old setup was around 20 seconds or maybe a little less...but at that point it's more of a far-stretched nuisance than anything else. The additional hang may just be caused by a BIOS timeout after all that I can't seem to fix. Your thoughts? I don't feel I should waste anyone's time with trying to improve it further, honestly.
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a c 716 V Motherboard
February 4, 2011 2:16:04 PM

I was trying to find an old post where I helped someone who updated their BIOS and had a similar issue; there was 1 frigging BIOS setting that 'fixed' their problem - the new BIOS changed a Default value which caused the problem. {when/if I find it - I'll post it here; it may do zip to help}

The reason for the reformatting is 'often' vs 'always' the flash corrupts the SSD/HDD, and the full reformatting is a precaution.

Yes, I agree if you're running without 'errors' this is purely a nuisance.

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In changing IDE->AHCI->IDE->etc a registry corruption can occur {check these entries} -> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922976

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a b V Motherboard
February 4, 2011 5:30:24 PM

@OP this thing is all over the forums "long post/boot time" i think it's due to new BIOS (uEFI architecture)the only thing i would suggest is to disable logo screen and all the controllers that you don't use in bios,hope new BIOS will improve
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a b V Motherboard
February 4, 2011 5:42:30 PM

could't edit...keep your SSD on Intel 6Gb/s port (Marvell is sluggish)
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a c 716 V Motherboard
February 4, 2011 5:51:59 PM

My next suggestion is uninstalling the ASUS Utilities.
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April 11, 2011 12:50:44 PM

Glad it's not just me! I've got the same motherboard with a kingston SSD. the splash screen is pretty darn slow. Its currently in the marvell controller, so i'll try that tonight.

If anyone finds a solution please post!
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May 8, 2011 4:22:59 PM

did anyone ever get to the bottom of this? I'm experiancing a slow windows boot with a OCZ vertex 3.
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May 15, 2011 6:48:47 AM

I never did end up finding a solution to this issue. I am still experiencing about a 10 second longer boot on my p67 board compared to any other board I've owned. I also received the B3 revision for the p8p67 and nothing changed.
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May 17, 2011 11:40:08 AM

I've also been wondering about the boot time with this board, I just put together a new build with a P8P67 pro too, an i72600K and 2 HDD's in RAID 0 (still holding off spending the $$ on a SSD), and it takes about 22 secs just to start loading windows... 45ish 'til i get to the windows login screen. I'm thinking maybe this motherboard is just a bit slow.
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May 17, 2011 11:03:32 PM

I have the new B3 revision p8p67 Pro and get the same problem. When i boot the system it double flashes the Asus bio's screen before it goes to windows. I have tried to move the sata cables for my hard drive from the dark blue marvel sata port as well as the bottom sata ports that are light blue and still get a double post. It makes me hate this board and ASUS. I wish I bought the P67 Gigabyte board instead.

***There is one thing to fix this problem*** in the advanced bio's screen look for the startup screen options. Select to skip the Asus Bio's start up screen and it will make your system boot faster but you will not see that Asus UEFI start up.
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June 14, 2011 3:46:01 PM

chicagohawk said:
Just put together a brand new sandy bridge build with the P8P67 Pro, and I've noticed the windows 7 (x64) splash screen hangs for about 10-15 seconds longer than it did on my old build. I'm running an intel x-25 SSD as my boot drive, and a 7200RPM 500GB WD HDD as storage. Same drives, didn't reformat when switching between builds. No hang indications from any programs in windows.

I was curious if anyone else had this issue or has any suggestions? Both drives are running on the intel 6gb/s connectors and I have my asus dvd burner and the e-sata front panel connector both running on the marvell 6gb/s connectors. Running stock settings for SATA in AHCI mode. Tried IDE as well, but it didn't change anything. BIOS v1204. Tried searching for the solution, but all I found were people having extremely long boot times BEFORE it hits the windows splash screen.


Hi ! I had the SAME problem as you have, but I SOLVED THE PROBLEM ! HERE IS THE SOLUTION : I plugged the Sata cables on the mother board from the marvell in to the 6gb/s sata inputs, so I had nothing plugged in to the marvell input connectors on the motherboerd. After this I vent in to the BIOS, and disabled the marvel, and also disabled the motherboard's screen, so I have only white letters on the black screen on start up. I also set the post screen time in the Bios from the default 30-second to 00,-second. In the BIOS I Also changed the bootup order from the DVD drive to the SSD drive, so the SSD drive boots up before the DVD drive. Now my computer boots up 12-SECONDS, and Reboots at 6- SECONDS ! To desable the Marvell made the biggest change on the bootup lenght time ! OH ! I Also disabled the Inter Rapid Storage "bullshit" thecnology. - To do that, go to: START - RUN - Typ in :MSconfiguration. In here, click STARTUP, and desable the bastard IRST! That saved me another 3-4 - seconds on the bootup lenght ! Do the SAME as I did, and you will be SUPRISED how fast your computer can bootup ! Good luck to you !
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November 18, 2011 4:48:29 AM

thanks ferike, thanks guys
I have 7 brand new pcs with this MB +2 x ocz vertex +2 x 1TB SATA - normal startup takes 200-250 sek!!!! at all stations so its just a typical problem. I installed W7 clean and had to wait 2 mins....crazy. What is interesting linux from usb runs very fast....

Will try Your solution and tell if it helped.

Regs m.a.c
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December 17, 2011 10:27:17 AM

Hi , I have the asus P8Z68 deluxe. I had similar problems as discussed here, by pc started booting and showed the asus slash screen for about one minute, after that it bootet normaly (showed the splash screen a second time for about 2 seconds) ... everything else runs normally.
The solution after trying basically everything :p  the mainboard showed the message b4, that means : usb hot plug ... so i unplugged my usb printer HL1430 and everything worked fine ... fast start.
I couldn't find a bios option that disables the usb hot plug, or set the wait time very short though, so my solution is not so great: I just plug the printer in when i actually want to print something :p 

cheers
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December 26, 2011 11:25:05 PM

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December 27, 2011 8:16:11 AM

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