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Geeksire   05-15-2010 at 07:15:55 AM

Hello everyone,

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Would be this week or during all this Summer.

SYSTEM USAGE: Since this build is SOLELY going to be for gaming: Gaming, Microsoft Work (and other software of that brand), and also browsing.

BUDGET RANGE: Will be around $1,200 (including the keyboard & mouse, and monitor)

PREFERRED WEBSITE FOR PARTS: www.newegg.com, most definitly the place I look at for the best prices

COUNTRY: Would be the United States of America

PARTS PREFERENCES: I was thinking of getting Nvidia and only Nvidia (no ATI) preferably a GTX 260 or even higher : D, CPU will be AMD (at least Quad-Core), and motherboard can be an Asus, Gigabyte, or MSI (EVGA is too expensive for me and I'm not very sure of Foxcon.) Also a Full-Tower for my build.

OVERCLOCKING: No overclocking for me, don't want to risk it.

SLI: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: Not very sure on the monitor resolution, but if it can be a decent monitor over $180 through $230 ((with good resolution) maybe a 1920 X 1200)) I'll buy it.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I want my computer to just be a gaming computer and nothing else. I would like to have a nice, quiet, cool computer that doesn't exhaust so much heat under stress, and I really don't want my computer to be tricked out with led-lights and all. I just want one high-end graphics card (in the price range) in my computer and nothing else. Thanks all.

P.S: By the way, this is my very first time building my computer so sorry if I left some stuff out. Thanks.


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jbakerlent   05-15-2010 at 07:51:24 AM

Here's a nice build for your uses. Also, why no ATI?

CPU:

MOBO:

RAM:

GPU:

HDD:

PSU:

Case:

ODD:

LCD:


That comes to about $1250. I didn't get a multiple GPU capable PSU or MOBO because you wanted NVidia. See what you think.

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Lmeow   05-15-2010 at 08:35:21 AM

^+1. Near perfect build, I'm thinking that 520W may not be enough for a GTX 470, although I'm probably wrong. It is a SeaSonic after all...

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amk09   05-15-2010 at 08:36:25 AM

jbakerlent recommended a very solid build, I agree except I'd make a few changes.

Save yourself a $100 dollars and get a different case and also have money for a mouse, keyboard, and a better PSU.

Antec 300 - $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129042


I'd also recommend getting a better PSU, as Nvidia recommends a 550W minimum for the GTX 470.

Seasonic 620W 80 Plus BRONZE Certified - $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371015


Also, same question as j, Why no ATI?

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jbakerlent   05-15-2010 at 08:47:12 AM

^Agree with both of you regarding the 620W. Also, I just recommended the 1200 because he mentioned he wanted a full-tower.

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hitmanmoney   05-15-2010 at 10:28:37 AM

I agree with ati because you can get either a 5850 or 5870. Correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't the GTX 470 consume a lot of power and generate a lot of heat. My grammer sucks i know lol :) http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 85-15.html Those are comparisons. I guess if you need cuda or nvidia 3d yeah but if you get a 5850 or 5870. You can get an antec 300 which would save a ton of cash. That money could be put towards better cooling. Better cooling equal more overclocking. Guess what i found 48 amps on the 12 volt rail that enough for 2 5850 in crossfire.

225w a piece 18+18=36 im gonna assume the phenom ii 125w all together that 46amps you got one bad mamma jamma :)

Antec NEO ECO 620C 620W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product


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hitmanmoney   05-15-2010 at 11:03:11 AM

You will need to by 2 6 pin connector but they are cheap if you ever decide to crossfire.

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amk09   05-15-2010 at 11:23:07 AM

hitmanmoney wrote :

You will need to by 2 6 pin connector but they are cheap if you ever decide to crossfire.



Yes but he specifically said NO to crossfire/sli.

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And to J I realize that but he also said "I really don't want my computer to be tricked out with led-lights and all" but I guess you can easily turn the led's off. Nonetheless it's a great case but I think he'd be better off with a sub $100 case if he's going for simple. Also it will save him some cash so that he can add performance.

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hitmanmoney   05-15-2010 at 11:50:09 AM

ok then get the one 5850. it overkill anyway : )

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hitmanmoney   05-15-2010 at 11:50:05 AM

The antec 300 is 60 bucks or is that a quote confused

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duk3   05-15-2010 at 07:40:17 PM

The antec 300 is 60$.

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Somebody_007   05-15-2010 at 08:47:21 PM

the 5850 will be a tight squeeze though in a 300 since its larger than the 470. And I chose a 470 over an ati for multible reasons.

1. heat doesn't matter it can operate at higher temps.

2.It has CUDA and 3d vision so just in case I might ever need that.

3. Drivers might make it a few percent better

4. It's said to be more future proof by the article on toms

5. It's Nvidia what else can I say?

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Geeksire   05-16-2010 at 01:58:40 AM

Thanks for all your replies guys I really appreciate it. I've been seeing that you want me to get ATI, but I just hate ATI for what it did to me with my previous computer I had. Took them nearly 3 months to send one card to me after one failed, and that one card finally arrived FAILED ON ME! I was outraged by ATI of what happened and just wanted my refund. I'm not saying there cards suck, it's just the luck I got in to.

But if you guys want me to get ATI, I'll try it again if it's worth it. I've heard that ATI focuses on Anti-Aliasing (hope I spelled it right) while the Nvidia cards focuses on a whole range of graphics, so not sure if I'm right on this.

The PSU that you were guys saying should be around 600W, am I right? I think that's my biggest trouble right now because I seriously don't know what to get when it comes to PSU.

Would I also need some fans for the CPU and the Graphics Card?

I also forgot to mention, when it comes to the cases, I would like it to be at least $120 or lower. If the card can fit then it's a yes for me.

Again, thanks for replies everybody. : D


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jbakerlent   05-16-2010 at 02:12:12 AM

No, ATI doesn't just focus on AA (yes you spelled it right :) )

I would look up some benchmarks here or on anandtech to see how well the 5000 series performs compared to NVidia's two offerings, while also considering price.

Yes, a quality 600W 80+ PSU would power any single GPU.

So, for the case you need one that is full tower and has no LEDs as well?

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Geeksire   05-16-2010 at 02:24:51 AM

For the tower, yes with no Led-Lights (if you can) and Full-Tower (for the future, I would like to make some improvements when I get the money.) I really don't want blinking lights, and I really don't want to show off my computer (not that type of person.)

I just want to have a Full-Tower, for future improvements, and I'm still thinking on which graphic card to get...

I've been doing a lot of thinking and have decided on getting the GTX 470, it's cheaper than the 5870 and runs pretty much...I wouldn't say better but better than the 5870.

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amk09   05-16-2010 at 03:16:40 AM

Geeksire wrote :

For the tower, yes with no Led-Lights (if you can) and Full-Tower (for the future, I would like to make some improvements when I get the money.) I really don't want blinking lights, and I really don't want to show off my computer (not that type of person.)

I just want to have a Full-Tower, for future improvements, and I'm still thinking on which graphic card to get...

I've been doing a lot of thinking and have decided on getting the GTX 470, it's cheaper than the 5870 and runs pretty much...I wouldn't say better but better than the 5870.



For sure the GTX 470 is a solid card so you're really not making a bad choice there, just paying a little more price for the performance, but not much.


As far as cases go there aren't many great full size cases for under $120 that aren't flashy either.

Heres a very good mid size tower that will provide ample space for all your components as well as future upgrades, also providing superior cooling and low noise levels.

Lian-Li - $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811112154

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Geeksire   05-16-2010 at 03:40:17 AM

Nice, nice! Thank you very much. Now lets see.

CPU:
* AMD Phenom II X4 955 -$160-

MOBO:
* Gigabyte GA-785GMT-USB3 -$90-

RAM:
* G.Skill Ripjaws -$116-

GPU:
* Gigabyte GTX 470 -$350-

HDD:
* Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB -$55-

PSU:
Seasonic -$85-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

Case:
Lian-Li -$100-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811112154

ODD:
* Asus -$25-

LCD:
* Samsung P2370 -$230-

And it comes out to $1216, not bad! So is this good guys?


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jbakerlent   05-16-2010 at 03:45:49 AM

Looks very nice! You can get the actual Seasonic for a bit cheaper if you want.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

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Geeksire   05-16-2010 at 03:55:40 AM

All right, I just need some other replies and I'm good to go (the keyboard and mouse I can just "steal" from my brother so no worries on that.)

I actually wanted to say something about the combo with the Graphics Card. It doesn't show me the combo in newegg, can somebody help me with this?

Also the PSU, I was thinking about getting this one since it's actually cheaper than the one above:
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply -$80-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139005

Will this do or should I go with the other one even though it goes to -$90-

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Geeksire   05-16-2010 at 05:32:51 AM

Damn now your making me pick from one of them...

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Somebody_007   05-16-2010 at 09:06:51 AM

I thought an i5 750 would run circles around a 955 when OC'd similarly. Am I wrong?

And as for the keyboard and mouse

maybe these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] inder%20x6 + http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product + http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

or something so flashy you won't get used to it after a year http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product + http://www.amazon.com/Cyborg-R-T-G [...] 534&sr=8-5

Its a lot for keyboard and mouse I had a similar build and spent that amount since IMO it really is worth it.

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Somebody_007   05-16-2010 at 09:12:23 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT3 [...] r_embedded an amazing demo for probably another disaster

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Geeksire   05-16-2010 at 09:45:52 PM

Guys these keyboards and mouses are really expensive. Remember, I don't want a tricked out computer (even the keyboard and mouse.) I just want a "cheapo" keyboard and mouse, nothing else. Thanks for your replies though.

Oh and by the way, I'll just go with the AMD build. Tell me if it's good so I can buy it. : D


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Somebody_007   05-16-2010 at 09:56:55 PM

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-AR [...] 561&sr=1-1 this isn't too expensive and if it still is then meybe this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

as for the keyboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

I really reccomend investing in a good keyboard and mouse though especially for a gamer.

And as for those 2 builds I think the intel is better

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amk09   05-16-2010 at 11:22:18 PM

Geeksire either build would be great but honestly the i5 750 build will outperform the other.

Not to mention it's less power hungry which will be good with a GTX 470!

Go with the i5 750 build, you won't regret it.

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figjam_sa   05-16-2010 at 11:34:51 PM

Why don't you consider the Coolermaster HAF 922 or the Coolermaster 690?? Both are great cases and not too expensive...

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Geeksire   05-16-2010 at 11:40:50 PM

All right then, I guess I'll go with the i5 750, but for the case. Can you show me the links to those, and for the other members, should I get a better case or the Lian-Li? When I said I didn't want my computer to be tricked out with led-lights, if you can find a case that is cheap ($110 or lower), that is made to have a gaming rig inside, and that has lights that is better than the Lian-Li, I'll agree to that one. (The reason why I didn't want the led-lights was because of the useless wattage it'll use, and the with no led-lights, the cheaper it is.) Thanks for replies guys now it's just the case that needs some thinking. The keyboard and mouse I'll take care of so don't worry about that.


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amk09   05-17-2010 at 02:15:33 AM

Geeksire, Lian-Li makes high quality cases, that case you have picked out will work great. Trust me you won't have any problems with heat/noise, because cases like that are specifically made for high performance parts like the ones you have picked out.

Also, good to hear you're going for the i5 750, good luck with the rest of your build!!

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hideout   05-17-2010 at 02:36:16 AM

on the PSU front, the Antec Earthwatts 650 is on sale right now for a killer dea. Might save you some cash for use in other places.

And the ATI card on an AMD (ati) mobo would be fine... and reduce your power needs bya good margin.

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Geeksire   05-17-2010 at 03:29:52 AM

I guess I'll stick with this guys, check this out:

Case + PSU $180
Get the Lian-Li and Seasonic,

Motherboard+GPU+DVD Burner $425
MSI P55-GD41 LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard + ASUS ENGTX470 GTX470 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Video Card + ASUS DVD Burner

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.383682

CPU + Cooler $217:
Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor + Cooler Master Hyper212+

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.374030


Ram $110:
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product


HDD $49:
Seagate 7200.12 500GB

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

Samsung P2370 $230

This is from "somebody_007", and I'm very thankful for the info everybody has given me. Thank you everybody this will do.

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Geeksire   05-17-2010 at 05:37:50 AM

Oh man! Sorry about that Timop. Thanks : D

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