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Hello everyone,

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Would be this week or during all this Summer.

SYSTEM USAGE: Since this build is SOLELY going to be for gaming: Gaming, Microsoft Work (and other software of that brand), and also browsing.

BUDGET RANGE: Will be around $1,200 (including the keyboard & mouse, and monitor)

PREFERRED WEBSITE FOR PARTS: www.newegg.com, most definitly the place I look at for the best prices

COUNTRY: Would be the United States of America

PARTS PREFERENCES: I was thinking of getting Nvidia and only Nvidia (no ATI) preferably a GTX 260 or even higher : D, CPU will be AMD (at least Quad-Core), and motherboard can be an Asus, Gigabyte, or MSI (EVGA is too expensive for me and I'm not very sure of Foxcon.) Also a Full-Tower for my build.

OVERCLOCKING: No overclocking for me, don't want to risk it.

SLI: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: Not very sure on the monitor resolution, but if it can be a decent monitor over $180 through $230 ((with good resolution) maybe a 1920 X 1200)) I'll buy it.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I want my computer to just be a gaming computer and nothing else. I would like to have a nice, quiet, cool computer that doesn't exhaust so much heat under stress, and I really don't want my computer to be tricked out with led-lights and all. I just want one high-end graphics card (in the price range) in my computer and nothing else. Thanks all.

P.S: By the way, this is my very first time building my computer so sorry if I left some stuff out. Thanks.
 
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jbakerlent recommended a very solid build, I agree except I'd make a few changes.

Save yourself a $100 dollars and get a different case and also have money for a mouse, keyboard, and a better PSU.

Antec 300 - $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042


I'd also recommend getting a better PSU, as Nvidia recommends a 550W minimum for the GTX 470.

Seasonic 620W 80 Plus BRONZE Certified - $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371015


Also, same question as j, Why no ATI?
 
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I agree with ati because you can get either a 5850 or 5870. Correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't the GTX 470 consume a lot of power and generate a lot of heat. My grammer sucks i know lol :) http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-480,2585-15.html Those are comparisons. I guess if you need cuda or nvidia 3d yeah but if you get a 5850 or 5870. You can get an antec 300 which would save a ton of cash. That money could be put towards better cooling. Better cooling equal more overclocking. Guess what i found 48 amps on the 12 volt rail that enough for 2 5850 in crossfire.

225w a piece 18+18=36 im gonna assume the phenom ii 125w all together that 46amps you got one bad mamma jamma :)

Antec NEO ECO 620C 620W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371031&cm_re=antec_neo-_-17-371-031-_-Product
 
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Yes but he specifically said NO to crossfire/sli.

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And to J I realize that but he also said "I really don't want my computer to be tricked out with led-lights and all" but I guess you can easily turn the led's off. Nonetheless it's a great case but I think he'd be better off with a sub $100 case if he's going for simple. Also it will save him some cash so that he can add performance.
 
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the 5850 will be a tight squeeze though in a 300 since its larger than the 470. And I chose a 470 over an ati for multible reasons.

1. heat doesn't matter it can operate at higher temps.

2.It has CUDA and 3d vision so just in case I might ever need that.

3. Drivers might make it a few percent better

4. It's said to be more future proof by the article on toms

5. It's Nvidia what else can I say?
 
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Thanks for all your replies guys I really appreciate it. I've been seeing that you want me to get ATI, but I just hate ATI for what it did to me with my previous computer I had. Took them nearly 3 months to send one card to me after one failed, and that one card finally arrived FAILED ON ME! I was outraged by ATI of what happened and just wanted my refund. I'm not saying there cards suck, it's just the luck I got in to.

But if you guys want me to get ATI, I'll try it again if it's worth it. I've heard that ATI focuses on Anti-Aliasing (hope I spelled it right) while the Nvidia cards focuses on a whole range of graphics, so not sure if I'm right on this.

The PSU that you were guys saying should be around 600W, am I right? I think that's my biggest trouble right now because I seriously don't know what to get when it comes to PSU.

Would I also need some fans for the CPU and the Graphics Card?

I also forgot to mention, when it comes to the cases, I would like it to be at least $120 or lower. If the card can fit then it's a yes for me.

Again, thanks for replies everybody. : D
 
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No, ATI doesn't just focus on AA (yes you spelled it right :) )

I would look up some benchmarks here or on anandtech to see how well the 5000 series performs compared to NVidia's two offerings, while also considering price.

Yes, a quality 600W 80+ PSU would power any single GPU.

So, for the case you need one that is full tower and has no LEDs as well?
 
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For the tower, yes with no Led-Lights (if you can) and Full-Tower (for the future, I would like to make some improvements when I get the money.) I really don't want blinking lights, and I really don't want to show off my computer (not that type of person.)

I just want to have a Full-Tower, for future improvements, and I'm still thinking on which graphic card to get...

I've been doing a lot of thinking and have decided on getting the GTX 470, it's cheaper than the 5870 and runs pretty much...I wouldn't say better but better than the 5870.
 
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For sure the GTX 470 is a solid card so you're really not making a bad choice there, just paying a little more price for the performance, but not much.


As far as cases go there aren't many great full size cases for under $120 that aren't flashy either.

Heres a very good mid size tower that will provide ample space for all your components as well as future upgrades, also providing superior cooling and low noise levels.

Lian-Li - $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112154

 
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Nice, nice! Thank you very much. Now lets see.

CPU:
* AMD Phenom II X4 955 -$160-

MOBO:
* Gigabyte GA-785GMT-USB3 -$90-

RAM:
* G.Skill Ripjaws -$116-

GPU:
* Gigabyte GTX 470 -$350-

HDD:
* Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB -$55-

PSU:
Seasonic -$85-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

Case:
Lian-Li -$100-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811112154

ODD:
* Asus -$25-

LCD:
* Samsung P2370 -$230-

And it comes out to $1216, not bad! So is this good guys?
 
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All right, I just need some other replies and I'm good to go (the keyboard and mouse I can just "steal" from my brother so no worries on that.)

I actually wanted to say something about the combo with the Graphics Card. It doesn't show me the combo in newegg, can somebody help me with this?

Also the PSU, I was thinking about getting this one since it's actually cheaper than the one above:
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply -$80-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005

Will this do or should I go with the other one even though it goes to -$90-
 
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I thought an i5 750 would run circles around a 955 when OC'd similarly. Am I wrong?

And as for the keyboard and mouse

maybe these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109063&Tpk=sidewinder%20x6 + http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826105093&cm_re=sidewinder-_-26-105-093-_-Product

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823114008&cm_re=razer_lycosa_gaming_keyboard-_-23-114-008-_-Product + http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826153055&cm_re=razer_deathadder-_-26-153-055-_-Product

or something so flashy you won't get used to it after a year http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823175005&cm_re=saitek_cyborg-_-23-175-005-_-Product + http://www.amazon.com/Cyborg-R-T-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B003CYKCHW/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1273993534&sr=8-5

Its a lot for keyboard and mouse I had a similar build and spent that amount since IMO it really is worth it.
 
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Guys these keyboards and mouses are really expensive. Remember, I don't want a tricked out computer (even the keyboard and mouse.) I just want a "cheapo" keyboard and mouse, nothing else. Thanks for your replies though.

Oh and by the way, I'll just go with the AMD build. Tell me if it's good so I can buy it. : D
 
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http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-ARB-00001-SideWinder-X5-Mouse/dp/B001DWK4NC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1274039561&sr=1-1 this isn't too expensive and if it still is then meybe this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826105030&cm_re=microsoft_mouse-_-26-105-030-_-Product

as for the keyboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109194&cm_re=microsoft_keyboard-_-23-109-194-_-Product

I really reccomend investing in a good keyboard and mouse though especially for a gamer.

And as for those 2 builds I think the intel is better
 
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Geeksire either build would be great but honestly the i5 750 build will outperform the other.

Not to mention it's less power hungry which will be good with a GTX 470!

Go with the i5 750 build, you won't regret it.
 
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