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April 14, 2010 6:28:36 PM

When can we expect nvidia and ATI to launch some of their new graphic cards? I need a new GPU and those currently on the market is in my opinion getting kind of outdated. Most of them can't even handle DX11 that well and i want to play Battlefield: Bad Company 2 smooooth...

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April 14, 2010 6:32:01 PM

Well, you do realize that Nvidia released their new DX11 cards in the last month, and they just started hitting store shelves end of last week right? Brand spanking new. Also- the ATI 5xxx series cards are also pretty new, and nowhere NEAR being out of date, support DX11, etc. What more do you want? Get a 5970 or 5870, or even a GTX480 and you should be easily fine for BF:BC2
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April 14, 2010 6:44:21 PM

no..? i live in denmark.. they always ship it a 1-2 month later, if it's a popular item. I had to buy my E8400 in britain when it got out just to get it 3 months before everyone else in denmark.
I considered a 5xxx but yeah, just wanted to know if there is expected anything new on the market that could push prices a bit.

Thanks though
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April 14, 2010 6:46:22 PM

I wouldn't be expecting anything else too soon. ATI ought to be coming up with their next series of cards in the next 6 months or so, but who knows when it'll actually happen. Prices probably won't be changing TOO much in the next couple months though.
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April 14, 2010 6:54:37 PM

Aw.. okay, have to settle with a 5850 i guess. That's my price limit. Nvidia is expensive :/ 

thanks!
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April 14, 2010 6:55:21 PM

A HD5850 handles BFBC2 fine at max settings @1920 x 1080 2xAA 60+FPS

I expect a HD5770 would be fine aswell for res. below 1650 x 1080.

I wouldn't expect new gen cards before Q4 2010/Q1 2011
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April 14, 2010 7:02:18 PM

sure man. And yeah- BF:BC2 runs just fine on a 5850- may not be able to crank AA up to the max and stuff, but it still runs great:-)
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April 14, 2010 7:10:43 PM

Thanks to the both of you.

The new nvidia cards would that be the 480 and 470? I actually found a few on the local market, prices are high though!
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April 14, 2010 7:15:41 PM

Yeah- the 470 and 480 are the newest Nvidia cards. And yes- they are expensive compared to the 5850 and 5870:-)
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April 14, 2010 7:17:59 PM

Yeah thats right.

Prices seem to vary alot depending on where you live.

For example In the UK a GTX470 is more expensive than a HD5870, and the GTX480 is roughly the same price as a HD5970

The HD5850 is £100 less than a GTX470 making it a good deal


But in america there's only $50 between the HD5850 and GTX470
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April 14, 2010 7:23:57 PM

Rumor has it there will be a refresh from AMD sometime this year. This means the cards will get a speed bump and possibly a price drop. Won't happen until near the end of the year, if it happens at all. Brand new cards won't be here until some time next year.
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April 14, 2010 7:28:43 PM

Nvidia is supposed to roll out its GTX 460 and GF104 (GTS 450, 440 and probably GT 400's) in june/july. There will be more price cuts, and ATi may have ( if they already haven't got ) an RV 970 (HD68xx) in their lab.

Also ATi may be doing a refresh on ist's high end roundup (HD58xx, HD59xx), probably an HD5890 and HD5990.

But if you're in a hurry get one of those HD5800 cards, or eventually an GTX470:) 
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April 14, 2010 7:36:47 PM

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Nvidia is supposed to roll out its GTX 460 and GF104 (GTS 450, 440 and probably GT 400's) in june/july.


Seeing as they failed completely to roll the GTX2xx series down to the low end, and this series seems to be hot/power hungry, I'm not sure we will see these cards. Its possible sure, but I find it far more likely that they will continue to fight with the G92 then roll these cards out.
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April 14, 2010 7:40:13 PM

I'm in a bit of a hurry. I had a 8800GT in my machine but it got overheated four months ago. What's the point in having a machine if you can't use it?

I think i will get one of them 470, if i can find them for a reasonable price!
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April 14, 2010 7:43:42 PM

5850 is pretty close in performance to a 470, and is $50 cheaper in the US, and the difference is larger in the UK. 5850 is a better price/performance buy even in the US, much more so in the UK.
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April 14, 2010 7:50:10 PM

Especially if your last card died of overheating, the HD5850 uses much less power and thus outputs much less heat.
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April 14, 2010 7:54:14 PM

Yeah- especially compared to the super-hot 470 and 480's :-p
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April 14, 2010 7:59:30 PM

Oh fly...don't bring in RR and Notty :c.
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April 14, 2010 8:01:08 PM

Haha- sorry Shadow;-) It is the truth though, and I always speak the truth to the best of my ability here, though I do hope I don't get them riled up again... I seem to be good at that :-p
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April 14, 2010 8:18:35 PM

I think i will settle for a HD 5770. Is the leap from 5770 to 5830 worth the 90$? I guess not..
The price difference of the HD5850 and the HD5770 is huge and even more so for the 470!
HD5770 = 237$
HD5830 = 320$
HD5850 = 365$
GF 470 = 475$
I hate my country...
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April 14, 2010 8:26:24 PM

Moondrinker said:
I think i will settle for a HD 5770. Is the leap from 5770 to 5830 worth the 90$? I guess not..
The price difference of the HD5850 and the HD5770 is huge and even more so for the 470!
HD5770 = 237$
HD5830 = 320$
HD5850 = 365$
GF 470 = 475$
I hate my country...



NOO way better go HD 5770. HD 5830 isn't worth the money and sometimes it's even lower than the HD 4890 it's "replacing" (has similar performance)

HD 5770 = HD 4870
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April 14, 2010 8:33:18 PM

5770 is definitely the best price/performance there. If you are gonna go higher than that, go to 5850. The other two are WAY overpriced for what they are. Sorry the prices are high for you man!
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April 14, 2010 9:06:58 PM

ye well.. that was kind of why i hoped for an alternative. That they would launch something new. The market (for me) is stuck with only one option; the 5770. It's the better choice in any perspective.

Thanks for the input! :wahoo: 

Hmm, but the 5770 doesn't cut it for BF.. sure it can handle it, but not perfectly. I would have to have a 5850 but it's sold out.. jeez :/ 
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April 14, 2010 9:08:51 PM

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April 14, 2010 9:13:00 PM

No problem man- good luck with the new GPU when you get it- You will most likely be pretty darn happy with it.
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April 15, 2010 8:58:33 AM

I'm not certain and so i have a quick question for you whizzes...
I have a corsair HX520W PSU - is this sufficient for a HD5770? I take it is. but if you could elaborate a bit, where is the limit for this PSU? a HD5850 should be no problem too but what about Crossfire HD5770?
My PSU is one solid motherf***** at low watts though..
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April 15, 2010 9:27:22 AM

Moondrinker said:
I'm not certain and so i have a quick question for you whizzes...
I have a corsair HX520W PSU - is this sufficient for a HD5770? I take it is. but if you could elaborate a bit, where is the limit for this PSU? a HD5850 should be no problem too but what about Crossfire HD5770?
My PSU is one solid motherf***** at low watts though..



Well i think it should handle a 5770 but not 5850 and 2x5770 in Xfire. I think a 5770 would be the limit (from nvidia gts250, not sure about gtx260)
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April 15, 2010 9:46:58 AM

Bummer! That PSU was expensive as hell.. oh well..
In my point of view the power consumption for the 5850 is not that big of a leap if you look at the charts (compared to 1x 5770).

Thanks though.
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April 15, 2010 9:54:55 AM

Moondrinker said:
Bummer! That PSU was expensive as hell.. oh well..
In my point of view the power consumption for the 5850 is not that big of a leap if you look at the charts (compared to 1x 5770).

Thanks though.



Well it might handle HD 5850 afterall:

http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-rad...

:D 

I'm pretty much sure it will be stable, it's a corsair PSU right? I saw it's review at OC club, and it's very good PSU.

But i still think it won't be enough for 2x5770:S

http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-rad...
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April 15, 2010 10:23:21 AM

Aw man, i just settled for a 5770 (spend the whole morning thinking about it)... and now i have to think it all over. :D 
5770 or 5850, i hate that dilemma!! I got the money for 5850 but i don't use my computer a whole lot anymore (but that might change).. There's a huge performance leap between the two models but currently there's also a price difference of 90$.. mhm..

But yeah, it's a very solid corsair PSU. :) 
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April 15, 2010 3:47:08 PM

Your PSU will handle any of those cards ;) 

Even my 400W Corsair will handle 5770 or 5850 just fine :) 
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April 15, 2010 4:09:46 PM

Yep, it will be able to handle the 5850...... Go ahead..... see ya on the battlefield....
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April 15, 2010 4:18:12 PM

That PSU will easily handle any of those cards. It will also handle 2x5770 as long as you have them on separate 12V rails from eachother. AMD recommends 600W, but those numbers are always inflated to account for all the crappy cheapo PSU's out there. A GOOD quality 520W PSU like your corsair, will have no problem with double 5770s.
Edit: 5770 crossfire will have a typical load of around 150W, with a max of ~200W if you synthetically load it, but you'll never see that high in normal use. That leaves you a full 320W for the rest of your system, which is more than plenty.
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April 15, 2010 7:48:24 PM

I thought so.. I bought an MSI 5770 hawk because the 5850 model is sold out till june.
Hopefully the hawk model will have a longer lifespan than the usual cards and then i can go crossfire in a year or so.
I know that ultimately, one 5850 is better than two 5770, cause.. it just is. :D 
Also i play at 1650x1200 resolution.
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April 15, 2010 8:00:59 PM

Moondrinker said:
I thought so.. I bought an MSI 5770 hawk because the 5850 model is sold out till june.
Hopefully the hawk model will have a longer lifespan than the usual cards and then i can go crossfire in a year or so.
I know that ultimately, one 5850 is better than two 5770, cause.. it just is. :D 
Also i play at 1650x1200 resolution.



5770 will do excelent on that res.

And 2x5770~5870 :D 
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April 15, 2010 9:16:55 PM

Yeah- 2x5770 is about the power of a 5870- better than a 5850, but can be more finicky. Its a good solution though, and the MSI should be a very solid card, and overclock pretty well too. Enjoy it man.
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