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Upgrading a Gateway dx4200-09: Help please!

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May 16, 2010 12:54:24 AM

Hi

Looking for some guidance on upgrading the graphics card on this bone stock Gateway.
I need to run two monitors- heavy photoshop/video editing mostly
Resolution 1600x1200
My kid dreams of running Crysis on this machine but I told him it's too slow. ( I hope I'm right 'cause I don't want him on this machine!)
I also realize that I will need to upgrade the PSU.
Any suggestions would be appreciated
Newegg or Fry's are the easiest for me

Thanks

Chris




Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium (64-bit) with SP1
• 640GB 7200rpm Serial ATA II/300 hard drive with 16MB Cache
• AMD Phenom X4 9100e 64-bit Quad-Core Processor (1.80GHz, 2MB L2 Cache) with AMD64 Technology
• Integrated ATI Radeon HD 3200 Hybrid Graphics with up to 256MB of Shared Video Memory
• 4096MB 800MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM (2-2048MB modules), expandable up to 8GB
• AMD 780G Chipset
• 1 – PCI-E x16, 1 – PCI-Ex1 and 1 – PCI Available Expansion Slots
• 18X DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti Drive featuring Labelflash Technology
• Gateway 15-in-1 media card reader with copy button
• 6 USB 2.0 ports (2 Front, 4 Rear)
• 2 IEEE 1394a Ports(1 Front, 1 Rear)
• 1 HDMI and 1 VGA video port
• 2 PS2 Ports
• 56k ITU v.92 Ready Fax/Modem (RJ-11 port)
• 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet LAN (RJ-45 port)
• Premium Multimedia Keyboard
• 2-Button USB Optical Wheel Mouse
• Amplified USB Powered Stereo Speakers
• 8-Channel (7.1) High Definition Audio
• Dimensions (H x W x D): 16.34” x 7.09” x 17.32” (415mm x 180mm x 440mm)
• 300W Power Supply
a b B Homebuilt system
May 16, 2010 3:12:23 AM

what mother board does it have exactly?
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May 16, 2010 4:16:06 AM

obsidian86 said:
what mother board does it have exactly?


Hi

Foxconn AMD 780G is all I found

Spent 30 minutes "chatting" with some offshore tech support squid and thats all I got
Gateway site is useless

Back home in an hour or so. Will take a look at the machine and see what I can find. Thanks
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 16, 2010 4:25:14 AM

I mean it has a x16 slot. Why are you asking? That should be enough to put a graphics card in there regardless. Although you do need to see how big of a card the case can take.

If you were asking to see what CPU's it can take it should take most AM3 CPU's just because of the chipset. It may need to be bios updated but that should be it.

How come the onboard can't do what you want it to? It sounds like you are probably after something like a HD 5570 at the most if you want to attempt to make it not game worthy but still be able to handle everything else with ease. (though you can do some gaming on that card, though I doubt much on that resolution and with another monitor running off of it) Something low power and low profile like that should probably allow you to not upgrade the PSU.
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May 16, 2010 4:41:00 AM

LIttle confused by your reply- guess your comments were directed at obsidian?

I need something with dual display output. The onboard has a single VGA out and an HDMI out, thats it. Would like to increase graphics performance in terms of frame rate without swapping out CPU's.

I am assuming that whatever I install I will have to shut off the onboard ATI 3200, correct?

Thanks
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 16, 2010 5:12:17 AM

crysis is possible seems like there is a bios update for that board to accept am3 cpu's so just grab an amd 955
an ati 5770
and a corsair vx550 or tx 650 power supply
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 16, 2010 5:28:27 AM

Nope. I have a gigabyte board that was the first 780g that I'm still using. I have a HD 4850 plugged into it and I run my main/gaming monitor off of it, and the 3200 runs an old CRT that I use for windows explorer and whatnot.

Gaming frame rate or photoshop/video editing?

For photoshop/videoediting likely a CPU upgrade would help more.

You'd just need to get a HDMI to DVI adapter and then you could probably see if the 3200 can run both monitors, then upgrade graphics if it can't.
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May 17, 2010 3:48:30 AM

Thanks for the info. I'm off on a business trip for 10 days. Will likely order a HD5750 while I'm gone with a corsair 650 PS. Framerate is for HD video editing not gaming.
I'm sure you are right about the CPU upgrade being the way to go. That will be the next step in august or september- funds are tight right now so video card and PS first
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 18, 2010 2:22:04 AM

Actually you should do that the other way around. CPU is definitely more important for that sort of workload.

The card you picked is a gaming level card. It (or any other) would not help you do that sort of workload. Even though it's "HD video" a video card just shows you stuff, it doesn't make that kind of thing any faster at all.

Get a HD 5570 or 5550 for the monitors to work, and a CPU upgrade.

http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

Use that and see if you even need a PSU with that card or not.
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May 18, 2010 3:06:57 AM

False_Dmitry_II said:
Actually you should do that the other way around. CPU is definitely more important for that sort of workload.

The card you picked is a gaming level card. It (or any other) would not help you do that sort of workload. Even though it's "HD video" a video card just shows you stuff, it doesn't make that kind of thing any faster at all.

Get a HD 5570 or 5550 for the monitors to work, and a CPU upgrade.

http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

Use that and see if you even need a PSU with that card or not.



Thanks. WIth the 5570 and the AMD 955 that obsidian86 suggested I am over the limit for 300w PS that I have. (great website by the way)

Question is if I am going to upgrade the videocard only at this time am I better off with the higher level "gaming card" for directx 11 etc or should I stick with the 5570?

Lack of funds will dictate adding the CPU and PS down the road, say in 3-6 months
Thanks again for the great answers. Incredibly helpful

Cheers
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 18, 2010 5:40:48 AM

The 5570 is still in the same generation that has DX11. I don't think going up to the gaming card would help.

I still use my HD 4850 for gaming, it's speed is similar to the one you picked before. That makes it total overkill.

Even the 5570 is actually a budget gaming card and is (IIRC) more powerful than the 4670 I have in my secondary computer.
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July 9, 2010 5:11:15 AM

what am2 processors and wattage is it compatible with (hopefully phenom ii's, right??)
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July 10, 2010 2:49:45 AM

how do you know which bios update it is? PLEASE HELP!!! will it void oem license?
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