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May 17, 2010 4:07:45 PM

I am building it to be a high end gaming system at 1920 x 1200. Budget is around $2000 Cdn including windows7 and monitor. All shopping at www.ncix.com. I'd really appreciate any input, I will be buying the parts this Friday.

Intel Core i7 930 Quad Core Processor LGA1366 2.8GHZ 8MB L3 Cache 130W 45NM Retail Box
$309.99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT DVD OEM
$123.18

OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W ATX 20/24PIN SLI Ready Modular Cables 135mm Fan 80PLUS Power Supply
$79.99

Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB SATA3 6GB/S 7200RPM 64MB Cache 3.5IN Dual Proc Hard Drive OEM
$104.99

Sony DRU870S 24X DVD+/-RW SATA Internal DVD Writer Retail Box *IR-$35*
$29.99

ASUS P7P55D LGA1156 P55 DDR3 2PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 3PCI 7SATA CrossFire GBLAN 8CHANNEL Audio Motherboard
$144.73

Corsair XMS3 Dominator TR3X6G1600C8D 6GB DDR3 3X2GB DDR3-1600 CL 8-8-8-24 Core i7 Memory Kit
$237.99

XFX Radeon HD 5870 HD587XZNFV 1GB GDDR5 2XDVI HDMI DP DIRECTX11 PCI-E Video Card W/ A *IR-$10*
$429.99

Coolermaster Cosmos Full Tower ATX Case 5X5.25 6X3.5INT No PS Front USB Firewire Audio eSATA
$200.64

ASUS VW266H 25.5IN Widescreen LCD Monitor 1920X1200 20000:1 2MS VGA DVI HDMI Speakers
$334.99

Questions:
1. The motherboard. The price is great right now, but what would I be missing by spending more here?
2. Are there any parts that will limit my ability to overclock the cpu in the future?
3. How future proof is this system? In 1-2 years down the road, will I have good options, or are any of these parts last of their generation?
4. Are SS drives worth the money?

Some of the parts I chose for the price. For example the power supply has a good deal on it this week. It's not that I like OCZ, it just seems like a solid PS for that price. The motherboard is in the same boat.

I'm not interested in going for AMD. I know some will strongly disagree with me.
Also, minimizing noise is something I am looking for. The case I love for it's looks, and it has dampers inside. The motherboard is fan-less as well.

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May 17, 2010 4:20:00 PM

1.) Yes, considering the i7-930 isn't compatible with anything that isn't the X58. I highly recommend the Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R.

2.) Besides not having an aftermarket heatsink (the Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus is excellent)? The RAM is a little on the slow and extremely high on the expensive side. I'd pick up some G.Skill Pi Series 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 sticks.

3.) It's decent, but by going with Intel you're already building yourself out of CPU upgrades. They've already announced they're moving to new sockets in the next year.

4.) Not really, and you don't have the budget for a decently sized unit.

I have some major changes

First, as mentioned above, that board isn't compatible. Grab a good X58 board, like the Gigabyte above.

Second, WD HDDs are pretty slow right now. The ones that aren't are really expensive. Grab either a Seagate 7200.12 1 TB or Samsung Spinpiont F3 1 TB.

Third, that RAM is crazy expensive. You can get much cheaper sticks that will actually be faster.

Fourth, that monitor is also really expensive. I'd get a slightly smaller screen (like 1-2 inches) and save a good $150.

Fifth, while a great case, the Cosmos is (again) really expensive. I'd recommend getting the HAF 922 and saving a lot of money.

Finally, OCZ PSUs aren't that great. I would get a quality unit from Corsair, Antec, SeaSonic or Silverstone.

You may also want to check out Newegg.ca (where I linked to). They're generally cheaper than most places and have a very wide selection.

Here's a full build from Newegg.ca:

CPU: i7-930 $300
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R $230
RAM: G.Skill Pi Series 3x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 $194
GPU: HD 5870 $399
HDD: Seagate 7200.12 1 TB $73
PSU: Corsair 750W $113 before 10 USD rebate ($103 in total)
Case: HAF 922 $110
Optical: Cheap SATA DVD burner $23
HSF: Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus $30
OS: Windows 7 $109
Monitor: Asus 23" 1080p $170 after rebate

Total: $1,741. Or $2,042 with a HD 5970.
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May 17, 2010 4:32:08 PM

I'm going to take a different approach from MadAdmiral and recommend dropping down to the i5 750 for a gaming build!

CPU: Intel Core i5 750

MOBO: ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA1156 P55 DDR3 2PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 2PCI SLI CrossFireX USB3.0 SATA 6GB Motherboard - Gives you x8,x8 Crossfire support so down the road you can Crossfire, if need be

RAM: G.SKILL F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH Ripjaws PC3-10666 4GB 2X2GB DDR3-1333 CL7-7-7-21 Core i5 1.5V Memory Kit

I'm actually okay with everything else with your build (WD SATA III drive actually beats the Samsung Spinpoint F3 & Seagate 7200.12 in a lot of benchmarks), except for your case. You can get a better performing case like the Cooler Master HAF 932 for much less.
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May 17, 2010 4:35:49 PM

The WD is faster, but not enough to justify the increased price. We're talking a difference that isn't noticeable for a $30+ premium...

I also like the i5 for gaming builds, but frankly, I'd want the i7 with this budget. Unless you'd feel better about stepping up to the 5970 with the i5...
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May 17, 2010 4:48:19 PM

Thank you for the input so far, really appreciate it! I am updating my shopping cart as you give me feedback.

One note, I will be using ncix.com over newegg.ca

-while newegg does have a warehouse in Canada, most of the parts come from the US warehouse. Shipping is expensive, and it takes more time.
-I live a few blocks away from NCIX and can pick it all up for no shipping costs, and I have dealt with them for many years. Decent prices, great service.
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May 17, 2010 4:53:05 PM

I'd still compare the total prices. Most of the parts I've seen on Newegg have a set shipping amount, and are still cheaper including shipping. I could be wrong, but it's worth looking at...
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May 17, 2010 4:54:27 PM

Updated shopping cart:
Staying with that case/monitor for now, thinking about your suggestions. I love that case for it's looks and the fact that it has the sound dampers inside. The monitor, I like the size, but it is pretty expensive. May take your advice and drop to a bit smaller screen.

Intel Core i7 930 Quad Core Processor LGA1366 2.8GHZ 8MB L3 Cache 130W 45NM Retail Box
$309.99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT DVD OEM
$123.18

OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W ATX 20/24PIN SLI Ready Modular Cables 135mm Fan 80PLUS Power Supply
$79.99

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA2 3.5IN 8.5MS 7200RPM 32MB Hard Drive OEM
$89.99

Sony DRU870S 24X DVD+/-RW SATA Internal DVD Writer Retail Box *IR-$35*
$29.99

Gigabyte X58A-UD3R ATX LGA1366 X58 DDR3 4PCI-E SATA3 USB3.0 Sound GLAN CrossFireX SLI Motherboard
$223.99

I couldn't find the exact memory you suggested, but this ram's speed is about the same. The ram list I have to chose from is here.
Corsair XMS3 TR3X6G1333C7 6GB DDR3 3X2GB DDR3-1333 CL 7-7-7-20 1T Core i7 Memory Kit
$226.85

XFX Radeon HD 5870 HD587XZNFV 1GB GDDR5 2XDVI HDMI DP DIRECTX11 PCI-E Video Card W/ A *IR-$10*
$429.99

Coolermaster Cosmos Full Tower ATX Case 5X5.25 6X3.5INT No PS Front USB Firewire Audio eSATA
$200.64

ASUS VW266H 25.5IN Widescreen LCD Monitor 1920X1200 20000:1 2MS VGA DVI HDMI Speakers
$304.99

I'll price things out on newegg.ca as you suggest. It can't hurt!

I'm also not sure about the i5 vs i7 ideas :??: 
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May 17, 2010 5:03:46 PM

The reason the i5 is a good choice is that it performs almost as well as the i7 in many games. The substantially lower price (the CPU itself, the P55 boards and dual channel RAM) allows for more of the budget to be allocated to the GPU, which has a major impact on gaming performance. Basically, you're saving money on a part that doesn't have a huge impacton performance. The end result is that you get either a similarly performing build for much less (usually around $200-300 US) or you get a vastly better performing build for the same cost.
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May 17, 2010 5:23:12 PM

Same (or similar) parts comparison NCIX vs. Newegg.ca

Newegg.ca
Subtotal: $1,972.40
Shipping: $60.31
GST/HST: $101.64
PST: $142.29

Total: $2,276.64

NCIX.com
Subtotal: $2,078.60
PST: $145.50
GST(5%): $103.93

TOTAL: $2,328.03

Looks like newegg does save a bit of money, you were right :D 
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May 17, 2010 5:32:32 PM

It pays to should around.

Make sure to check to see if there are any combo deals with the parts, like this i7-930 and X58A-UD3R one. I know there are a lot on the US side, but there might not be many on the Canadian side...
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May 17, 2010 5:50:27 PM

Back to the i5/i7 question

If I stay with the i7:
mobo + i7 combo $505
Ram: $194
Total: $699

If I go i5
cpu $209
mobo $179
Ram: $117.50 (is this the right ram?)
Total: $505

That is a significant price difference...
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May 17, 2010 5:59:16 PM

Throw in a third option...

CPU: $172.99
MOBO: $159.99
RAM: $117.50
Total: $450.48
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May 17, 2010 6:28:58 PM
May 17, 2010 6:40:27 PM

The OCZ isn't garbage, but it's just not as high quality as Corsairs, Antecs, Silverstones and SeaSonics.

Everything else looks good.
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May 17, 2010 6:51:27 PM

Much better.
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May 17, 2010 11:39:58 PM

Best answer selected by japanjim.
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