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May 18, 2010 1:48:42 AM

Good evening all.

I've had my eye on a Gateway FX6831-03. Specs can be found here:
http://www.gateway.com/systems/product/529668418.php

I'd love to get some help on what I could get for the same budget if I built it myself (which I've never done).

I mostly game on my current pc, with typical internet browsing but no real heavy lifting aside from wanting to play the latest and greatest games at a really nice framerate for a couple of years. My monitor is a 46" Samsung LCD running at 1920x1080.

I do not need a keyboard, mouse or speakers.

My preferences are 8 gigs of RAM, and an i7 cpu. A SLI or Crossfire capability would be great, though at this time I think I'd prefer to just get one high end card and add another later if need be.

A full-sized tower is fine.

A blu-ray player would be nice. A cd/dvd burner is mandatory.

I'm looking to start getting all of this stuff in the next week. Fry's has that Gateway on sale through the 20th and I'm sorely tempted.

Thanks very much all!

Jeff

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May 18, 2010 1:52:38 AM

To make it easier, I'm posting the specs from that Gateway:

Processor Intel® Core™ i7-860 Processor1 2.8GHz with Turbo Boost Technology up to 3.46GHz (8MB L3 Cache)6
Operating System Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium (64-bit)7
Memory 16GB DDR3 Dual-Channel 1333MHz Memory8
Hard Drive 1.5TB 7200RPM SATA hard drive3
Chassis High performance, black glossy design with trendy red accents and lighting effects
Video ATI Radeon™ HD5850 Graphics card with 1GB of Discrete Video Memory8
Application Software Microsoft® Works & Microsoft® Office Home and Student 2007 (60-day complimentary trial period)2
Audio High Definition Audio with 7.1 Audio Support
Available Expansion Slots Available: 0 - PCI-E x16, 1 - PCI-E x4, 2 - PCI-E x1
Dimensions (Box) 12" (H) x 20" (W) x 24" (D) or 304.8mm (H) x 508mm (W) x 609.6mm (D)
Dimensions (System) 17.7" (H) x 7.5" (W) x 19" (D) or 449mm (H) x 191mm (W) x 482mm (D)
External Ports (10) USB 2.0 (4 Front, 6 Rear), HDMI™, (2) eSATA, IEEE 1394a, (2) PS/2, (2) DVI, (5) Audio, (1) High Definition Headphone Jack, (1) Microphone Jack
Keyboard Multimedia Keyboard
Media Card Reader Multi-in-One Digital Media Card Reader with PhotoFrame Button4
Memory Capacity 4 DDR3 Slots Total (0 Slots Available)
Motherboard Systemboard with Intel® H57 Express Chipset
Mouse Optical Mouse
Network 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet LAN (RJ-45 port)
Optical Drive Blu-ray Disc™ 4X BD-ROM / DVD-SuperMulti Drive and 16X DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti Drive
Power Supply 750W Power Supply
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May 18, 2010 2:11:45 AM

Here is a build for you, as a starting point... (Not sure why you would need 16GB like in the Gateway)

Cost: $1,393.90
  • CPU: Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I7860 - Retail
  • MOBO: ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
  • RAM: G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBECO - Retail
  • HSF: COOLER MASTER Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-GP 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long life sleeve CPU ... - Retail
  • HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
  • PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
  • GPU: XFX HD-587X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5870 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail
  • DVD: LITE-ON Black 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS424-98 LightScribe Support - Retail
  • Case: COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
  • Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
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    May 18, 2010 4:56:59 AM

    I would personally never buy pre-built systems because your paying a large portion of it for branding and labour. Which means you can always get more if you build the system yourself. On the side note, tecmo34's build looks great.
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    May 18, 2010 5:14:53 AM

    I really don't need 16g, though I'd like 8. Thanks for the list tec.
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    May 18, 2010 5:23:09 AM

    i would upgrade to an i7 930 if I were you. That with a Radeon HD 5870 and you will be golden.
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    May 18, 2010 6:26:48 AM

    the 860 is just dandy...great gaming chip...love the amount of Ram....though a little over kill go with 8
    and I agree get an 5870
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    May 18, 2010 1:35:55 PM

    It's a whole lot of money being spent for the sake of it to be honest.

    If you are gaming then all you really need is the i5 750 as i7s offer little in the way of extra performance, but if you must get an i7 then just settle for an i7 860 (though at $100 more I still can't say it is worth it) at least then you arent spending extra money on X58 mobo and Triple Channel RAM which would be a lot of money for near no extra gaming performance

    If you really want 8gb of RAM then just get two lots of Techmos suggestion, though again that is really just an extra $115 spent for zero performance gain in games
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    May 18, 2010 6:07:30 PM

    Food for thought for sure. Would the i7 not help futureproof me better? I guess I'm a victim of marketing. =)
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    May 18, 2010 9:56:03 PM

    Future proofing is the fool's errand. ;) 
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    May 18, 2010 10:18:25 PM

    Okay, well I hate to ask this but would it be too much trouble to ask for a list with the i5 750 please? I know that'd change a few things. I really appreciate the help guys.
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    May 18, 2010 10:22:02 PM

    Aye, future proofing is a myth in most situations.
    What you are really looking for is a computer that will last ideally about 3 years.
    The performance difference between i7 and i5 games is insignificant - pretty much the big difference between the processors is the Hyperthreading that the i7 has, something which for gaming means nothing. When your i5 struggles to play games so will the i7.

    For gamers the only reason you would get an i7 is for the socket 1366 with the belief that when the next CPUs come out you can upgrade without changing motherboard and RAM etc. However, in reality this too is pointless unless you are someone who likes to throw your money at the latest thing. The 1366 socket has a limited lifespan, as do most sockets these days.

    The fact is you wont need to change an i5 computer for another 2-3 years, even longer with overclocking, by the time you need to change, you will be wanting to build a new machine, and your motherboard socket will be obsolete regardless of whether you went i7 or i5.
    Hell, I had my 8800GTX card and E6700 for what...4 years and I was still running alot of games on high settings ad that was with no overclocking.

    You need to remember that the latest and greatest is not necessarilly what you need as a gamer, keep in mind that people need powerful CPUs for programming and coding etc. and usually the high end technology is designed for that and has a lot of power that can be no use for gaming. The same goes for RAM quantity, as a gamer no more than 4 is of use.
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    May 18, 2010 10:39:43 PM

    This is a list I had put elsewhere, others may have more suggestions. With your higher budget you could replace the card with the 5970

    i5 750 - $195
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

    Asus P7P55D-E PRO - $189.99 (6gb/s, 3.0 USB)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

    G Skill 4GB 2x2GB RAM - $118.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

    XFX Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5 - $399.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200RPM 16MB Cache - $54.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

    CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX ($89.99, $69.99 with Rebate).

    COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 - $49.99 $9.99 shipping
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

    Sony DVD drive - $26.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product


    Total: approx. $1130.

    That leaves money to buy the Hyper212+ CPU cooler for $39.99 (very good cooler) if you plan on OCing alot.

    You could even upgrade case to HAF 922 or something like that (if you really want to) for about $40 more

    You could save a few more $ by getting a different DVD drive, that just happened to be the first Dual Layer I found, but could likely replace with a $20 one.

    You could spend extra to get even lower latency RAM.

    This is all without searching for combo deals or rebates etc. so you may be able to get even cheaper a price.
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    May 29, 2010 3:09:48 PM

    Thanks again everyone. After all of this I wound up getting a nice deal on a great laptop that'll suit my needs well. I picked up an asus g73jh-x2 for $1700 out the door with a 3 year warranty.
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    May 29, 2010 3:10:49 PM

    Best answer selected by JMorse.
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