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May 18, 2010 11:35:01 PM

MSI 785GT-E63 AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
$79.99

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM $9.99

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK $109.99

AMD Athlon II X2 245 Regor 2.9GHz Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX245OCGQBOX $58.99

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
Software Standard Return Policy $139.99

• COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case combo with
• COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus RS-500-PCAR-A3 500W ATX12V V2.3 Power Supply $104.98

Already have:
Acer X183H 18.5” Monitor
Speakers
TracBall
300Gig PATA 2 7,200 RPM HD
DVD and CD-RW drives

Replacing:
Dell Dimension 4500
P4 2.66GHz
1 Gb RAM
PNY 7600 GS video card that crashes several times a day and has been replaced with an ancient nvdia geforce 4 mx 420.
Win XP Home Edition version 2002 with SP3

Use: Mainly basic business applications like word processing on WP11 and Word 2003 and web surfing. Rarely watch a DVD. Perhaps the most intensive program I use is Microsoft Flight Simulator. I am thinking of getting Win 7 Pro in hopes that it may allow me to use some of my oldest progams like Delrina Win Fax Pro (already a nightmare). If Pro won’t help with running old programs, I may as well go with W7 HE.

Is the little Athlon II going to be much more efficient than my old P4. The speed isn’t much more but I believe it has a lot more cache plus it is dual core.

I have never even attempted overclocking and doubt that I ever will.

I chose a mid tower and a full ATX board so as to have some room for air flow as well as my fingers.

I picked the above components because I have a budget, but expect this system will be much better than what I have and it will also allow some expansion down the line. Will a 500W PS suffice for everything I plan to add when needed? I can add something like a Saphire 100296HDMI Radeon HD card and later drop in a Phenom II, a larger 10K rpm HD, and upgrade the DVD and CD It also accepts another 12Gigs of RAM for a total of 16Gigs.

This is the link to that Saphire card. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I hope this makes sense. I am trying to keep current expense to @ $500 plus tax and shipping. I want to order something tonight or tomorrow if possible and will probably go through newegg. Thanks for any comments.

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May 19, 2010 1:49:53 PM

1. Fresh builds - the sun has gone down on DDR2 platforms so get on the DDR3 platform train ^^
2. You can still get an ATX case and mATX mobo and have a look at this juicy combo
http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?sub...
3. These 2 x 2 DDR3 RAMs
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
4. Nice case - CM 690 i have always liked but negative on that CM Xtreme 500 : get an 80+ certified with active PFC PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
5. Items 2-4 would run to about $270 leaving the matter of acquiring a GTS 250/HD 4850 well within your means (suggest Win 7 Home Premium for OS) Both spank the HD 4670 soundly

Cheers ^^
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May 19, 2010 11:14:29 PM

batuchka said:
1. Fresh builds - the sun has gone down on DDR2 platforms so get on the DDR3 platform train ^^
2. You can still get an ATX case and mATX mobo and have a look at this juicy combo
http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?sub...
3. These 2 x 2 DDR3 RAMs
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
4. Nice case - CM 690 i have always liked but negative on that CM Xtreme 500 : get an 80+ certified with active PFC PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
5. Items 2-4 would run to about $270 leaving the matter of acquiring a GTS 250/HD 4850 well within your means (suggest Win 7 Home Premium for OS) Both spank the HD 4670 soundly

Cheers ^^



I had been looking at saving some money with that Antec PSU and have changed to the GeIL memory to save a few bucks, but what is the ATX case and mATX mobo you referenced. The link only takes me to my shopping cart.

Meanwhile, I decided to cough up a few bucks more for the Athlon II X3 440 Rana similar to xrome's suggestion.

I also realized that my old logitech trac ball won't work with any but some of the more expensive ATX mobos, so I will pickup an inexpensive nongaming usb optical mouse. The trac ball is pretty much worn out, anyway.


I changed form W7 pro to W7 HE 64 bit.

All this, plus an optical mouse, takes me up to just about $500 before tax and shipping.

The above includes an ASUS M4A785TD-M EVO AM3 for $80.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As I understand it, the onboard gpu works like a mini crossfire when I add a dedicated video card.

Anyhow, what was the mobo/case combo you suggested?

Thanks.
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May 20, 2010 12:07:34 AM

xrome said:
This CPU is much better for the money!

Athlon II x3 Rana
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I agree and had modified by build to go with the 440 Rana. The link you gave is for the 335 Rana, which are almost identical, with the only diff I see being a tenth of a GHz of speed and multi media instructions. I get a $10 gift card w the 335 and it is $4 less, so do you think I should go with the 440 or 335? TIA
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May 20, 2010 12:34:55 AM

batuchka said:
1. Fresh builds - the sun has gone down on DDR2 platforms so get on the DDR3 platform train ^^
2. You can still get an ATX case and mATX mobo and have a look at this juicy combo
http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?sub...
3. These 2 x 2 DDR3 RAMs
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
4. Nice case - CM 690 i have always liked but negative on that CM Xtreme 500 : get an 80+ certified with active PFC PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
5. Items 2-4 would run to about $270 leaving the matter of acquiring a GTS 250/HD 4850 well within your means (suggest Win 7 Home Premium for OS) Both spank the HD 4670 soundly

Cheers ^^


This is the revised build, but I would like to know which combo cpu/mobo you meant.

COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
$69.99
ASUS M4A785TD-M EVO AM3 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
$79.99
Antec NEO ECO 520C 520W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
$54.99
Logitech 967740-0403 Black USB Standard Internet 350 USB Keyboard - OEM
$19.99
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
$9.99
GeIL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10660) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model GV34GB1333C9DC
$95.99
AMD Athlon II X3 435 Rana 2.9GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Processor Model ADX435WFGIBOX
$70.99
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
$99.99

Subtotal: $501.92

In addition there is a $10 mail in rebate and a $10 gift card, and I get $20 off of the first month’s bill for signing up for newegg’s preferred customer credit card, with no interest for 12 months.

I realized that my Logitech track ball will work with the new system, but not the old ps/2 keyboard, which is sweet as I am used to it.

Still curious which mobo/case combo batuchka meant. That and wondering if the rana 440 is worth $14 more the 335. (Price dif is only $4 but the 435 comes with a $10 gift card.) The only improvement I see in the 440 is a tenth of a Ghz faster and it has multimedia instructions.

Thanks.
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