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May 19, 2010 9:10:55 AM

Hey everyone, thanks in advanced for helping me out here.

I haven't built a computer since, pretty much the stone ages. My current system is an old outdated p4 system.

I'm coming to everyone here to ask for help as I have been pretty much out of the loop for new computer parts and the like. So if y'all don't mind lending a hand that would be greatly appreciated.



APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Within the next 2-3 weeks at the latest.

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, working from home IT support(remote connection to work network)

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Mouse/keyboard

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Any good ones.

PARTS PREFERENCES: I need a dual monitor set up at least.

OVERCLOCKING: Yes Maybe SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes, but not right now.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080, 1920x1200

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I currently work with two 17" monitors and cannot go back to just having one monitor.


Again, thanks in advanced for helping me out everyone.
May 19, 2010 9:59:46 AM

So your budget includes the price of 2 monitors?
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May 19, 2010 10:13:25 AM

Welcome to the forums!
For CPUs, Intel i series offers the most powerful CPUs currently in the market. Also look up AMDs Phenom II series.

For GPUs, ATI's 5000 series has the best GPUs in the market. They have DX11 support and beat Nvdia's GTX 400 series for value(which have DX11 support too).

For motherboards, it is a stalemate between ASUS and Gigabyte. Make sure you buy a motherboard with USB3 ports.

RAM... Its again a stalemate between OCZ and G.Skill. Both have quality products.

Hard Drives: Try Segate and Western Digital.

PSU: Try Corsair, Antec and Cooler Master.

Chassis: Try Cooler Master, Antec, Thermaltake or Lian Li.

Assuming you live in the USA, newegg.com is a very good website to order parts.

Any questions, feel free to respond.

Good luck!:) 



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May 19, 2010 10:48:43 AM

cmcghee358 said:
So your budget includes the price of 2 monitors?



Yes the price includes the two monitors. I can go over 1600 a little, but not by much as I'm working with a strict budget. I'm not looking to play the newest games on MAX settings or anything. I would like to be able to play wow on max if not the next lowest settings though. I would mainly be playing CS Source/1.6, WOW, and MW2.
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May 19, 2010 10:51:56 AM

Also, if it helps I can reuse my old case, I have a Thermaltake Armor that I got for free from a friend when he got his new case.
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May 19, 2010 11:05:51 AM

Ok I'll throw something together for you in the next 15 mins or so
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May 19, 2010 11:29:30 AM

What about an i5-750 build? I would like to compare the two, because isn't the i5 the "ideal" gaming processor for the money right now?
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May 19, 2010 11:35:40 AM

i5-750 and AMD Phenom IIx4 955 have very little difference by way of gaming performance. Except that AMD gives you better performance for price.

It's been proven time and time again, that very rarely is the CPU a gaming bottleneck. The only reason I picked the 955 over an Athlon IIx4 is because its easier to Overclock.
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May 19, 2010 11:37:51 AM

In fact with the extra 200 dollars in your budget you could pick up a 5870 and gain even more ground in gaming. Where as with an i5 build between CPU/Mobo/RAM that 200 would be eaten just making the CPU combo work.
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May 19, 2010 11:39:07 AM

Oh alright. Since I do have a little bit left over in the budget from that build, what would you recommend upgrading the gpu or the two monitors to a little bit bigger size? or would I be able to do both?
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May 19, 2010 11:47:17 AM

Well the 5850 is 310, a good 5870 is about 420, so thats 110. Leaving 90 dollars to upgrade 2 monitors. 21.5" is big enough for me personally, but it's really up to you.

As far as WoW is concerned(I think I read you play WoW, I asnwer alot of these every night so forgive me if I'm not remembering) the 5850 will carry you through cataclysm fine imo.

So it's kind of up to you. WHats going to improve your play? More real estate or a more powerful GPU for other games like FPS?
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May 19, 2010 12:10:47 PM

Corsair is #1, Antec is #2. After that THermaltake, OCZ, Coolermaster are all good ones too.

I didn't do any combos on mine so you can probably get your price down another 50-100 by doing so.
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May 19, 2010 12:23:30 PM

The one you listed has onboard graphics. But with the $15 dollar promo code it's a great buy. No reason not to go for that
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May 19, 2010 12:26:40 PM

An i5 750 build:

5 750 - $195
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

Asus P7P55D-E PRO - $189.99 (6gb/s, 3.0 USB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

G Skill 4GB 2x2GB RAM - $118.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

XFX Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5 - $399.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 500GB 7200RPM 16MB Cache - $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

750W PSU and HAF 922 combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.395128

Sony DVD drive - $26.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler Hyper 212+ - $39.99 (plus $2.99 shipping)

Total: $1198.90

So, that leaves $400 for monitors, I believe you can get 2 x Acer 24 inch 2ms response time monitors for $450.

Unfortunately, I think you need an OS? So that means likely you can only afford one monitor for now. So you may need to save up for another and use just one, or keep using your 2 old monitors until you can afford both.

You could save money by reducing the GPU to 5850, but as you want to run two monitors I would prefer to stick with the better card
You could also save money by getting a mobo that has no XFire capability, but to be honest I would focus money on the better computer parts as a monitor is something you can get any time and connect easily
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May 19, 2010 12:29:53 PM

^ Proof positive that the i5 is just expensive by comparison. Where-as my build included the OS and the 2 monitors.

Not knocking you asteldian, just trying to show the cost difference of an i5 vs Phenom.
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May 19, 2010 12:31:12 PM

So now you have an AMD build and an Intel build to look at.

You could of course go for the smaller monitors that cmc showed, that would be $340, plus the $100 for Windows, if you were to get them with the Intel build your total would be $1638.90 which is pretty close to your $1600 budget and gives you two new monitors right away.
Personally I prefer the 2 bigger and faster response monitors but that is an additional $110 so it depends on how urgently you want your monitors
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May 19, 2010 12:35:07 PM

I agree, you canse the difference between the AMD and the Intel build.
It is not a HUGE difference (once you factor my build is also a 5870), but if you add that cost to cmc's build you reach about $1524 with the monitors picked, where as my build with his monitors would be $1639, so there is about $115 difference, so not huge - but it is certainly significant.
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May 19, 2010 12:35:15 PM

I'd compromise and stick the new monitors on the AMD build!
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May 19, 2010 12:43:35 PM

do you have a link to the new monitors?
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May 19, 2010 1:24:42 PM

I think I'm gonna go with the Intel build. I'm finializing the last bits of it then I will post it here.. I think I can live with just one monitor for now, and then upgrade to another in a month or two.. 24" would be a big improvement from my old 17's lol
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May 19, 2010 1:40:03 PM

How does this look?


CD ROM
LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


HDD
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Monitor
ASUS VW246H Glossy Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


GFX
HIS H587F1GDG Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


RAM
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


HSF
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Mobo/Case
ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
AND
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...


CPU/PSU
Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I5750
AND
OCZ StealthXStream OCZ700SXS 700W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...


total w/ shipping is: $1,526.77


I decided to go with the i5 because I've personally have always had better luck with intel. Let me know if that's a good build or not and if there are any suggestions on different parts..

Again thanks for the help guys.
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May 19, 2010 7:48:29 PM

Looks good, the only thing I would possibly consider adjusting would be the PSU to one of the main makes - Antec, Silverstone etc. Though I am sure OCZ will be fine
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