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May 19, 2010 4:40:24 PM

I had an earlier thread, but it got sort of confusing with edits and moving items in and out. Bottom line is I would like to put this order in pretty soon, but lack confidence in a certainty the components are compatible. If someone could please glance at this and let me know anything that looks funky, I would appreciate it very much. All input and suggestions welcomed. One area I would be interested in upgrading may be the DVD burner to a stable and compatable dual layer unit. Thanks!

GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD5 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
SATA 3.0, USB 3.0, 3x USB power $289.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor $288.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $109.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3G1600LV6GK $199.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply $139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX HD-585X-ZNFV Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity $309.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAIDMAX SMILODON Extreme Black ATX-612WEB 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case $89.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Writer $27.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders – OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
May 19, 2010 4:46:36 PM

Get the i7-930, instead of the i7-920. It is the same price, and is a better version of i7-920.
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May 19, 2010 4:56:28 PM

Another member also made the recommendtion about the RAM------thanks for the confirmation! Yeah, I think I would like the storage capacity of the larger HD. I need to store a fair amount of pictures and video inspection footage, as long as the HD looks like a good choice otherwise.

As far as RAID configurations, I don't think I'm advanced enough to get into that. I don't really have a handle on that aspect of a new build. I have read that putting the OS on a small drive and using a large one for storage would speed things up, then other articles refer to multiple backups, etc. Maybe I'm getting put off too easily, but I thought I would just keep it simple for this build. What do you think?
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May 19, 2010 5:02:13 PM

I'd skip RAID. It is expensive, and unnecessary for a build of this power.
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May 19, 2010 5:06:20 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: As soon as I am comfortable I'm not shooting myself in the foot by buying incompatable parts. I can put the stuff together OK, but need experienced input about compatability and similar newb mistakes.

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: For general office work, and video editing. Some moderate graphics.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Monitor/Keyboard/Mouse

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Used NewEgg for my other build for home with no problems. This would be my second build, for my office desktop.

PARTS PREFERENCES: by brand or type : No preference other than I want stable, well built, reliable, compatable components. Willing to pay more for less drama.

OVERCLOCKING: Don't think I need it, mostly because I don't know what it is for certain. I'm not a gamer.

MONITOR RESOLUTION:

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Just want a good, solid, fast office desktop that can handle some graphics, photo editing, and some video work. I have a marine construction business, so we are not graphic artists. I just need to submit inspection reports from time to time with edited video and photos.
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May 19, 2010 5:09:41 PM

The UD5 is very expensive. +1 for the UD3R. Here's a combo deal for the UD3R and the i7 930:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $473.98

The WD drive is outperformed by the newer 500GB/platter drives. I would ditch the WD drive for this faster one. This drive also saves you a bundle since it's cheaper to start with and currently has an extra $20 with promo code EMCYSZW23.

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive $69.99 w/promo code

I agree completely with ditching the OCZ RAM for G.Skill.

The 750TX is nice, but you can get a better 80+ Bronze certified PSU for cheaper.

Antec TruePower New TP-750 Blue 750W 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply $119.99 - $20 MIR

I remember you saying in your other thread that you were looking for a subtle-looking case. I would check out the Antec 300. You can get free shipping right now on both the Antec 300 and the Antec 300 Illusion with a promo code.

Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $59.99 (Free shipping w/ promo code 369FS)

Just about every current DVD burner will burn dual-layer disks. This cheap $20 burner burns DL disks at 8x speed.

LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA CD/DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM $19.99
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May 19, 2010 6:01:04 PM

OK, using those suggestions (think I'll stick with the orig power supply, and will take a look at the alternate case) here it is. Any problems when looked at as a bundle? Total cost is about $1,400, which is within budget. You folks have been great about helping here, and your input is greatly appreciated!

GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $209.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor $288.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Note: Combo deal for MB and CPU $473.98

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7T-6GBPI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply $139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX HD-585X-ZNFV Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity $309.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAIDMAX SMILODON Extreme Black ATX-612WEB 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case $89.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Writer $27.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders – OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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May 19, 2010 7:17:44 PM

yes much better now!
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May 19, 2010 8:32:57 PM

I am very thankful you guys took the time to help me with this. I appreciate it. I'll get the box headed this way!
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May 19, 2010 8:36:47 PM

Good luck with the build! Let us know how it turns out.
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May 19, 2010 9:28:06 PM

Hey fastx21! Yeah, justs clicked the button. The case is going to be out of sight under my desk, so it's probably the least important item to me. I did use it for my other build because I knew everything would fit right. It's a bit garish for me, but whatever. I do like how the side folds out.

What's the cooler you posted? Do you think I need that?
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May 19, 2010 9:28:51 PM

You really only need a cooler if you plan on overclocking. Some people add them in order to reduce the noise of the stock HSF, but I believe that frostytech lists the i7 stock as very quiet, so there should be no need on that end.
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May 19, 2010 9:45:06 PM

Now I have a little hesitation about that case. On one hand, I know it works, has good room, and has run cool on my home setup. But I remember now that I really wish it didn't have a front door, and wouldn't have minded some CF/SD card slots. I looked at the case Shortstuff mentioned, but some of the reviewers spoke about size constraints and a few other things that scared me off.

There's time to ammend the order, so I think I will browse around a bit more. A solid, well cooled, clean looking, black case with plently of room inside (without the LED light show) would be more my style. I'm just worried about getting something I have to hack on to made stuff fit, or won't accomadate my components well.

Any ideas anyone? I don't mind paying a bit more.....(I think this is called "mission creep")......but I might as well get it perfect.
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May 19, 2010 10:00:23 PM

The Antec 300 is an excellent case and will fit your 5850 with no problem. If you don't like the LED lights you can get the regular Antec 300 instead of the Illusion model.

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $49.95 (Use promo code EMCYSZW28 to get free shipping)

Here's another couple nice options that are slightly bigger, but they both have LED front fans.

COOLER MASTER HAF 922 $89.98

COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP $69.99 - $10 MIR

Lian Li makes excellent but a bit more pricey cases.

LIAN LI ARMORSUIT PC-P50 $149.99

LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62 $109.99
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May 20, 2010 1:54:26 AM

MoBo / CPU - This combo gives you better MoBo and better CPU for about $75 less

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Hard Drives - Check out the performance charts and pick whatever 500 GB per platter drive performs best under your usage patterns. The 2 TB WD Black and XT from Seagate are good choice but at smaller capacities, you are limited to the Seagate 7200.12 or the Spinpoint F3. The 7200.12 excels in gaming, multimedia and pictures whereas the F3 wins at music and movie maker. See the comparisons here (copy past link in manually, link won't work in forum):

(http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-3.5-desktop-har...[2371]=on&prod[2770]=on)

Look at the tests that reflect your usage and choose accordingly.

RAM - $180 for CAS 8 seems a bit much when you can get low profile CAS 6 for just $34 more .... $214
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or CAS 7 for close to that
$185 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$200 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'd grab a 650 watter for one GFX card, 850 watter if you considering SLI....

650 watt power supplies. For comparison purposes , the list below contains performance ratings (10 scale) at jonnyguru.com / prices as per newegg on 02/26/2010 and ones w/ double asteris (**) made it onto silentpcreview.com's Editor's Choice List:

Note: Just because you see a brand name on this list, never make the assumption that their other lines are of matching quality. Silverstone for example has other models w/ 6.0 and 7.0 ratings.

Antec Signature 650W (10.0) OOS **
Seasonic X-650 650W (10.0) $160 **
Silverstone Olympia OP650 (10.0) NFS

Thermaltake Toughpower QFan 650W (9.5) NLA

Antec Earthwatts EA650 650W (9.0) $75

Antec True Power Trio 650W (7.5) NLA

XFX XPS 650W XXX Edition Power Supply (7.0) NFS

Antec NeoPower Blue 650W (6.5) NLA

BFG BFGR650PSU 650W (6.0) NLA

NorthQ Black Magic Flex 650W PSU (5.0) NFS

850 watters - For comparison purposes , the list below contains performance ratings (10 scale) at jonnyguru.com / prices as per newegg on 02/21/2010 and ones w/ double asterisks (**) made it onto silentpcreview.com's Editor's Choice List meaning they excelled at both electronic and acoustic performance:


Antec SG-850 - 10.0 ($220) **
Antec CP-850 - 10.0 ($110) **
XFX 850W Black Edition 10.0 ($185)
Corsair HX850 850W - 10.0 ($180)

Antec TruePower Quattro (TPQ-850) - 9.5 ($150)
Corsair TX850 - 9.5 ($140)
Seasonic M12D 850W - 9.5 (NLA) **
NorthQ Giant Connector 850W - 9.5 (NFS)
Etasis ET850 - 9.5 (NLA)
Silverstone Zeus ST85ZF - 9.5 (NLA)

Enermax Revolution 85+ 850W - 9.0 ($250)

Thrmaltake Toughpower XT 850W - 8.5 ($216)
OCZ Z Series 850W - 8.5 ($200)

NorthQ Black Magic Flex 850W - 8.0 (NFS)
Coolmax CTG-850 - 8.0 (NFS)

SilverStone Decathlon DA850 - 7.5 ($230)
Enermax Galaxy DXX 850W EGX850EWL - 7.5 (NFS)

SilverStone Strider ST85F - 7.0

Silverstone Element ST85EF 850W - 6.0


NFS - Not For Sale / NLA = No Longer Available

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May 20, 2010 4:12:58 AM

I put the order on hold for a day while I mulled over the cases. Think I'll go with one of the ones Shortstuff recommended:

COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also, since I had the time, I think I'll get this card reader. It got decent reviews, and the extra USB port could be handy since the case only has two front ports. See what happens when you get extra time?

Koutech IO-RCM621 All-in-one USB 2.0 3.5" USB 2.0 Front Panel Multi-format Card Reader with USB 2.0 Port
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The only thing left now is the question in my mind raised by JackNaylorPE about the different MB and CPU combo. I don't know.......there is always going to be somthing I could change. I wouldn't mind saving $75, but do I need to vett the whole system again? Any comments on that change? As an inexperienced person, I am always worried about everything working right together.

edit: actually that MB CPU combo Jack mentions is about $30 more.
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May 20, 2010 7:13:09 PM

Order went in today with the orig MB/CPU, with the different case and addition of the card reader. Again, thanks for the input!
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