Low FPS in games?

soul reaper

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I just recently finished building my comp and everything seems alright. However the only strange thing is that I'm getting lowish fps for my system.

CPU Info (OC'ed to 3.5 but didn't get a pic for that with prime95 yet.) BCLK freq = 160
[cpp]Processors Information
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Processor 1 ID = 0
Number of cores 4 (max 8)
Number of threads 8 (max 16)
Name Intel Core i7 930
Codename Bloomfield
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 930 @ 2.80GHz
Package (platform ID) Socket 1366 LGA (0x1)
CPUID 6.A.5
Extended CPUID 6.1A
Core Stepping D0
Technology 45 nm
Core Speed 1920.0 MHz
Multiplier x FSB 12.0 x 160.0 MHz
Rated Bus speed 2880.0 MHz
Stock frequency 2800 MHz
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, EM64T, VT-x
L1 Data cache 4 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 4 x 32 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 4 x 256 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L3 cache 8 MBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
FID/VID Control yes

Turbo Mode supported, enabled
Max non-turbo ratio 21x
Max turbo ratio 23x
Max efficiency ratio 12x
TDP Limit 130 Watts
TDC Limit 110 Amps
Core TDP 110 Watts
Uncore TDP 20 Watts
Power @ 12x 40 Watts
Power @ 13x 46 Watts
Power @ 14x 52 Watts
Power @ 15x 60 Watts
Power @ 16x 68 Watts
Power @ 17x 78 Watts
Power @ 18x 89 Watts
Power @ 19x 101 Watts
Power @ 20x 115 Watts
Power @ 21x 130 Watts
Max bus number 255
Attached device PCI device at bus 255, device 2, function 1
Attached device PCI device at bus 255, device 3, function 4
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GPU
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CCC ai is set to standard, most of the other settings are on application control.
Max quality in COD5 and cod4 gives me around 75 while fighting and 90 when alone and not doing anything.
Borderlands plays at around 40ish in heavy fights.
Haven't gotten all that far in dragon age but it gives me around 80ish min fps.

all settings are maxed out ingame and vsync is off.
I can't really determine why I'm getting low framerates, esep in borderlands which shouldn't be too demanding.
any ideas?
 

soul reaper

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ASUS DirectCU 5850.

It seems low to me... 40 fps on an i7 930 and 5850...
Cod4 just dropped down to min of 40ish too on countdown.
with the reviews I've seen, shouldn't there be a much higher fps?
 

easymoney9

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Did you install asus smartdoctor and gamer osd software included with your card? If so uninstall it and rerun your games and check your fps. I just received my asus 5850 direct cu card and installed it and I ran the Crysis benchmark (assualt harbor) and it killed my fps. I went from 37 avg fps to 6. I uninstalled the asus software and my frame rate returned to normal. The problem now is that as far as I know the asus software is the only way to adjust the voltage. I tried msi afterburner but it doesn't adjust the voltage on this card. The overclocking ability is the main reason I wanted this card! Most reviews I read are getting at least 1ghz on the gpu.
 

mortonww

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On your GPU-z screenshot, in the Bus interface section, does that mean that your PCIe 2.0 x16 slot is running at x2??? What other PCI cards do you have installed? Is there a setting in the BIOS that you can check to make sure that lane is running at x16?
 

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You are aware a 60hz monitor can't actually display more than 60fps right?
and that TV and SD movies run at 24 FPS, HD TV and movies run at 30 FPS in the US.

Also telling us you get X FPS without telling us settings, AA and resolution is kinda useless.


Either way, mortonww got it right on the dot. You're running you GPU on only 2 lanes.



 

easymoney9

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Didn't notice that in the gpuz screenshot. Good catch mortonww! I just checked mine with gpuz and it shows @ x16 2.0 so something is not right with soul reapers' motherboard. Hopefully just correcting a bios setting will take care of the problem.
 

soul reaper

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Wow didn't even notice that o_O I'll look into the x2 thing. know where it would be on a p6t bios?
I have a soundcard in one of the 3 pcie slots as it fitted best there (in relation to the case)

I realize that a 60hz monitor can't display more than 60hz but without Vsync it should go higher.

MSI afterburner CAN change voltage or so I've heard.

add these lines to your Profile and the option becomes ungrayed
[Settings]
uP6208_Detection = 1

My games r running on 1980x1080 all at max settings

edit: I removed the sound card and it still shows up as a x2 slot...odd
 
Do you have the graphics card in the correct slot? Did you read the motherboard manual for where to install things?

Did you look at comparative benchmarks for the 5850 at 1920x1080 max settings? With max AA and all the frills, even a 5850 is going to struggle at that resolution.
 

soul reaper

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Yes its in the correct blue slot and the motherboard manual doesn't tell much about how. I tried both blue slots too.

I looked at comparative benchmarks...thats why I'm asking here...as they don't match

I'm guessing it has to do with the x2 PCIE which I can't seem to change...
 
The tech powerup system is an i7 920 at 3.8 Ghz, you are only at 3.5. Their RAM is also at fairly quick timings. Their system overall is better tuned and overclocked than yours.

I also think they are reporting average FPS (thats fairly standard), if you are looking minimum then I still dont think you have much of a problem.

Ive looked at a bunch more reviews. How are you calculating your FPS? I am not sure if you are running 10-15% slow or just are not measuring FPS the same as the reviewers.
 

soul reaper

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My average doesn't even reach 100. Its around 75

.3 ghz and faster RAM shouldn't boost performance by that much. My GPU is also overclocked to 890 Mhz and memory to 1255.

The x2 thing might be whats wrong. I tried cleaning and nothing so far.
 
The reviewers run a specific demo playback or mission playback every time to get a fair comparison.



Usually the GPU belongs in the PCIE slot closest to the CPU. Make sure you dont have anything else in any other PCIE slot. You never said the motherboard model or linked the website with the manual so we can look at it.
 

soul reaper

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Yes I understand that. however the difference shouldn't be that great. Multiplayer in general is less intensive than Singleplayer.

I've mentioned my motherboard was an ASUS P6T.

I tried placing the GPU in every PCI-E slot I have, its still the same. I tried cleaning both the card and the slot with alcohol.

Edit: I did some heaven Benchmarks and here are the results. This is with a 890/1255 OC'ed

With Dx9 x4 AA x16 AF
[cpp]Heaven Benchmark v2.0
FPS: 48.0
Scores: 1210
Min FPS: 24.9
Max FPS: 89.9 [/cpp]
With Dx11 no aa x4 AF normal Tessellation
[cpp]Heaven Benchmark v2.0
FPS: 27.3
Scores: 687
Min FPS: 6.5
Max FPS: 69.8
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all done in 1980x1080
Compared to this
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1273/7/

I'd say the x2 thing is the problem.
 

soul reaper

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...I don't want a 5970 from my card. I'm just noticing differences from the frames I have gotten and those on the reviews. If I wanted A 5970 I would've purchased one...

And furthermore how does noticing I have lower frame-rates mean I want a 5970...
 

soul reaper

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Alright... w/e this is going nowhere. Fyi the difference to what I'm comparing is more than a mere 2-3 fps. COD4 sometimes drops to 40 in fights.

I'll see if theres something to be done about the x2...else I'll probably have to RMA the board and card.
 

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