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May 21, 2010 5:37:49 AM

I just recently finished building my comp and everything seems alright. However the only strange thing is that I'm getting lowish fps for my system.

CPU Info (OC'ed to 3.5 but didn't get a pic for that with prime95 yet.) BCLK freq = 160
  1. Processors Information
  2. -------------------------------------------------------------------------
  3.  
  4. Processor 1 ID = 0
  5. Number of cores 4 (max 8)
  6. Number of threads 8 (max 16)
  7. Name Intel Core i7 930
  8. Codename Bloomfield
  9. Specification Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 930 @ 2.80GHz
  10. Package (platform ID) Socket 1366 LGA (0x1)
  11. CPUID 6.A.5
  12. Extended CPUID 6.1A
  13. Core Stepping D0
  14. Technology 45 nm
  15. Core Speed 1920.0 MHz
  16. Multiplier x FSB 12.0 x 160.0 MHz
  17. Rated Bus speed 2880.0 MHz
  18. Stock frequency 2800 MHz
  19. Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, EM64T, VT-x
  20. L1 Data cache 4 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
  21. L1 Instruction cache 4 x 32 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 64-byte line size
  22. L2 cache 4 x 256 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
  23. L3 cache 8 MBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
  24. FID/VID Control yes
  25.  
  26. Turbo Mode supported, enabled
  27. Max non-turbo ratio 21x
  28. Max turbo ratio 23x
  29. Max efficiency ratio 12x
  30. TDP Limit 130 Watts
  31. TDC Limit 110 Amps
  32. Core TDP 110 Watts
  33. Uncore TDP 20 Watts
  34. Power @ 12x 40 Watts
  35. Power @ 13x 46 Watts
  36. Power @ 14x 52 Watts
  37. Power @ 15x 60 Watts
  38. Power @ 16x 68 Watts
  39. Power @ 17x 78 Watts
  40. Power @ 18x 89 Watts
  41. Power @ 19x 101 Watts
  42. Power @ 20x 115 Watts
  43. Power @ 21x 130 Watts
  44. Max bus number 255
  45. Attached device PCI device at bus 255, device 2, function 1
  46. Attached device PCI device at bus 255, device 3, function 4


GPU


CCC ai is set to standard, most of the other settings are on application control.
Max quality in COD5 and cod4 gives me around 75 while fighting and 90 when alone and not doing anything.
Borderlands plays at around 40ish in heavy fights.
Haven't gotten all that far in dragon age but it gives me around 80ish min fps.

all settings are maxed out ingame and vsync is off.
I can't really determine why I'm getting low framerates, esep in borderlands which shouldn't be too demanding.
any ideas?

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May 21, 2010 5:57:10 AM

ASUS DirectCU 5850.

It seems low to me... 40 fps on an i7 930 and 5850...
Cod4 just dropped down to min of 40ish too on countdown.
with the reviews I've seen, shouldn't there be a much higher fps?
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May 21, 2010 6:15:08 AM

Well I'm wondering if its normal to have such low framerates ingame.

Have a i7-930 d0 with 1600 ram.
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May 21, 2010 7:14:08 AM

RAM isn't the issue at hand...

guess my system is fine then. maybe theres a bottleneck somewhere else.
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May 21, 2010 1:05:29 PM

Did you install asus smartdoctor and gamer osd software included with your card? If so uninstall it and rerun your games and check your fps. I just received my asus 5850 direct cu card and installed it and I ran the Crysis benchmark (assualt harbor) and it killed my fps. I went from 37 avg fps to 6. I uninstalled the asus software and my frame rate returned to normal. The problem now is that as far as I know the asus software is the only way to adjust the voltage. I tried msi afterburner but it doesn't adjust the voltage on this card. The overclocking ability is the main reason I wanted this card! Most reviews I read are getting at least 1ghz on the gpu.
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 21, 2010 1:27:38 PM

On your GPU-z screenshot, in the Bus interface section, does that mean that your PCIe 2.0 x16 slot is running at x2??? What other PCI cards do you have installed? Is there a setting in the BIOS that you can check to make sure that lane is running at x16?
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 21, 2010 2:01:26 PM

You are aware a 60hz monitor can't actually display more than 60fps right?
and that TV and SD movies run at 24 FPS, HD TV and movies run at 30 FPS in the US.

Also telling us you get X FPS without telling us settings, AA and resolution is kinda useless.


Either way, mortonww got it right on the dot. You're running you GPU on only 2 lanes.



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May 21, 2010 2:23:35 PM

Didn't notice that in the gpuz screenshot. Good catch mortonww! I just checked mine with gpuz and it shows @ x16 2.0 so something is not right with soul reapers' motherboard. Hopefully just correcting a bios setting will take care of the problem.
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May 21, 2010 6:26:12 PM

Wow didn't even notice that O.o I'll look into the x2 thing. know where it would be on a p6t bios?
I have a soundcard in one of the 3 pcie slots as it fitted best there (in relation to the case)

I realize that a 60hz monitor can't display more than 60hz but without Vsync it should go higher.

MSI afterburner CAN change voltage or so I've heard.

add these lines to your Profile and the option becomes ungrayed
[Settings]
uP6208_Detection = 1

My games r running on 1980x1080 all at max settings

edit: I removed the sound card and it still shows up as a x2 slot...odd
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 21, 2010 7:55:10 PM

Do you have the graphics card in the correct slot? Did you read the motherboard manual for where to install things?

Did you look at comparative benchmarks for the 5850 at 1920x1080 max settings? With max AA and all the frills, even a 5850 is going to struggle at that resolution.
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May 21, 2010 8:08:02 PM

Yes its in the correct blue slot and the motherboard manual doesn't tell much about how. I tried both blue slots too.

I looked at comparative benchmarks...thats why I'm asking here...as they don't match

I'm guessing it has to do with the x2 PCIE which I can't seem to change...
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May 21, 2010 8:24:15 PM

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/EAH_5850_TOP_Di...
From there. Exactly the same settings as I have but at 100 or so FPS

I really don't care if dragon age runs at a higher fps...its an rpg, don't need the extra frames from it

I also overclocked both the cpu and gpu so I should be getting better fps. If I'm not mistaken DA is more CPU bound as its graphics aren't that intensive.
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 21, 2010 9:03:19 PM

The tech powerup system is an i7 920 at 3.8 Ghz, you are only at 3.5. Their RAM is also at fairly quick timings. Their system overall is better tuned and overclocked than yours.

I also think they are reporting average FPS (thats fairly standard), if you are looking minimum then I still dont think you have much of a problem.

Ive looked at a bunch more reviews. How are you calculating your FPS? I am not sure if you are running 10-15% slow or just are not measuring FPS the same as the reviewers.
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May 21, 2010 9:14:16 PM

My average doesn't even reach 100. Its around 75

.3 ghz and faster RAM shouldn't boost performance by that much. My GPU is also overclocked to 890 Mhz and memory to 1255.

The x2 thing might be whats wrong. I tried cleaning and nothing so far.
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 21, 2010 9:29:12 PM

You posted while I was editing so I am re-posting. It may just be that you are not calculating FPS the same as the reviewers. It also might be that x2 thing.
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May 21, 2010 10:09:48 PM

I calculate based on the ingame fps meter in COD and using xfire.
Both give me consistent numbers. I really do gotta figure out whats up with the x2 thing. Anybody have any ideas?
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 21, 2010 10:31:11 PM

The reviewers run a specific demo playback or mission playback every time to get a fair comparison.



Usually the GPU belongs in the PCIE slot closest to the CPU. Make sure you dont have anything else in any other PCIE slot. You never said the motherboard model or linked the website with the manual so we can look at it.
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 21, 2010 10:35:31 PM

What's your motherboard make and model?
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May 21, 2010 10:38:57 PM

Yes I understand that. however the difference shouldn't be that great. Multiplayer in general is less intensive than Singleplayer.

I've mentioned my motherboard was an ASUS P6T.

I tried placing the GPU in every PCI-E slot I have, its still the same. I tried cleaning both the card and the slot with alcohol.

Edit: I did some heaven Benchmarks and here are the results. This is with a 890/1255 OC'ed

With Dx9 x4 AA x16 AF
  1. Heaven Benchmark v2.0
  2. FPS: 48.0
  3. Scores: 1210
  4. Min FPS: 24.9
  5. Max FPS: 89.9

With Dx11 no aa x4 AF normal Tessellation
  1. Heaven Benchmark v2.0
  2. FPS: 27.3
  3. Scores: 687
  4. Min FPS: 6.5
  5. Max FPS: 69.8

all done in 1980x1080
Compared to this
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1273/7/

I'd say the x2 thing is the problem.
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May 22, 2010 6:49:28 AM

^^
that site tested the card with a hexa core cpu
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May 22, 2010 8:11:09 AM

Xeon shouldn't affect scores of Heaven much should it? I mean When I use it my CPU wasn't even under heavy load.
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May 22, 2010 3:43:07 PM

...I don't want a 5970 from my card. I'm just noticing differences from the frames I have gotten and those on the reviews. If I wanted A 5970 I would've purchased one...

And furthermore how does noticing I have lower frame-rates mean I want a 5970...
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May 23, 2010 3:24:03 AM

Alright... w/e this is going nowhere. Fyi the difference to what I'm comparing is more than a mere 2-3 fps. COD4 sometimes drops to 40 in fights.

I'll see if theres something to be done about the x2...else I'll probably have to RMA the board and card.
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May 23, 2010 4:03:12 AM

ASUS 5850..like I said in the 1st post
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May 23, 2010 5:11:41 AM

no it is a single card.
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May 23, 2010 2:01:46 PM

updates? What do you mean?
I downloaded afterburner.

I really don't think any of this matter. If someone can point me to my boards PCIE bios settings...
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May 23, 2010 3:58:32 PM

I'm talking about MIN fps when I said 40. Average is still 75.
according to all the reviews a 5850 on 1980x1080 is fine for most games...if you have any evidence otherwise show it.

I tried looking and don't see anything...which is why I'm asking
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May 23, 2010 9:03:19 PM

Uhh, crazy thread. A 5850 is fine for most games, and 75 FPS average IS LOW on max settings for COD4. You definitely should not be experiences lows that low.
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 24, 2010 12:40:13 PM

Instead of making the assumption that the OP must be wrong in expecting more performance...why not help with the obvious bandwidth problem on his/her graphics card and see if that changes anything? ASUS P6T is a pretty popular board, isn't it? I'm sure someone can help him/her navigate through the settings to find out how to solve this. I have a DX58SO, but there's a submenu in the "Advanced" tab that shows what all my PCI slots are running at, which ones are populated, etc. Does anyone know exactly how to get there on the ASUS board?
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 24, 2010 5:38:45 PM

I think the point we're trying to make is that the FPS isn't actually too far off from what the bench's say they should be.

But fixing the x2 slot issue he has to check his BIOS settings/make sure board is in right slot/contact ASUS as to why the slot isn't giving him the proper channels. It's not really something we can help him with besides tell him to do above things.
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May 27, 2010 6:45:45 PM

I've already contacted ASUS and all they can do is give me a RMA for both the board and the card. I guess I'll take them up on it
75 fps is NOT normal in COD4. It should be around 100+ fps. There is a clear fps difference. I can post up more images if you need proof. I've seen multiple reviews and the framerates I'm getting are not usual.
There could be a power saving function thats causing detecting problems but so far even during load I still get x2
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