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April 20, 2010 12:14:07 AM

My EVGA 8800GTS 640MB started to show artifacts in win7. A video memtest revealed a gazillion memory error. I must have fried it a while ago when it was OCed. It was still performing nicely, so I was not planning on retiring it yet. Budget ideally would be $200 up to $250ish. I can usually figure this out on my own, by looking at the charts here and the egg reviews, but I have spent 3 hours doing that and I am still not sure what to get.

I am thinking EVGA 260 or BFG 275. $50 difference at the moment. Or may be go ATI to get a DX11 but no idea which one, or if it is even worth it. Probably not. Also I have heard problems with the win7 64x drivers for ATI. I have not had an ATI for 6+ years so I am just out of the loop.

Looking at the charts it seems the 275 has about 15-20% performance which does equate into that $50 over the 260.

My rig is a:

win7 64
Phenom II X4 955 black
G.Skill 4 gig DDR3 1600
ASUS M4A79XTD EVO (not ideal for SLI but I am not planning on SLI anyhow)
Cooler Master Storm Sniper case (good cooling)
Corsair 750W PSU

Ohh yeah. I like gaming. A lot. My monitor is 1680x1050 but I like to go a step higher soon. So may be that extra 20% of performance will come in handy.

So any recommendations are welcome ATI or nVidia. Thanks a lot!

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a b Î Nvidia
April 20, 2010 12:40:40 AM

Either way you go you'll get a lot of GPU power for your $$$.
As far as I know there aren't any problems with ATI drivers under Win7 x64 except for an occasional issue with specific games (same with Nvidia drivers). There are usually easy work around if it happens to your fave game.
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a b Î Nvidia
April 20, 2010 12:55:30 AM

Save up another $50 and get an HD5850. When OC'd, it's 80% better than the 275, and if not, it's still a kickass card (better than the 285).

If you can't, get either an HD5750 crossfire / 5770 crossfire, or an HD5830.
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a b Î Nvidia
April 20, 2010 1:19:28 AM

You can o/c a gtx275 as well. stock A 5850 is about 20% better than a gtx 275. The 275 is a pretty good deal at 220.00, which is what you can get it for at micro center, delivered as well.
If you want dx11 for under 200 , you have to go ATI right now. The 5770 is 165.00.
DX 11 cards, Nvidia only has the gtx 470, 350.00 and the 480, 500.00 dollars.
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April 20, 2010 1:58:19 AM

You shouldn't base graphics card performance off that chart...it's at 1024X768 resolution :lol:  .

Here's a review of the 5850 http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5850,2433... (gtx 275 is about 5% slower then GTX 285)

DX11 probably won't be worth it until the next generation of cards or later. There are very few games with DX 11 now. Just choose whichever card gives enough performance for you ;)  .
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a b Î Nvidia
April 20, 2010 2:03:04 AM

Thought I posted the summation of resolutions, its the same %.
directX 11 games that I play. (though I play without their features)
Dirt2
AVP
Bad Company 2
Metro 2033
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April 20, 2010 3:37:42 AM

Thanks for all the help!

Budget is OK up to $250 plus shipping. It is in place because I did not really see the need to upgrade with the 8800. Btw metro 2033 was good and that was one game I started to feel the need.

Looking at all that it seems the 260 makes no sense at $200 anymore. So I am between the 5770 and the 275.

I found this ASUS 5770 for $160 ... supposed to have 18% over a regular 5770 and it seems to beat the 260 in some tests. Definitely looks like a good amount of bang for the buck.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The only concern left is that I will probably not need the DX11 for another year or two. However the nVidia physics engine seems to gain space and the 275 has that. I don't see anything listed for physics for the 5770. Does ATI have anything comparable?
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April 20, 2010 3:49:35 AM

HUncowboy said:
Thanks for all the help!

Budget is OK up to $250 plus shipping. It is in place because I did not really see the need to upgrade with the 8800. Btw metro 2033 was good and that was one game I started to feel the need.

Looking at all that it seems the 260 makes no sense at $200 anymore. So I am between the 5770 and the 275.

I found this ASUS 5770 for $160 ... supposed to have 18% over a regular 5770 and it seems to beat the 260 in some tests. Definitely looks like a good amount of bang for the buck.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The only concern left is that I will probably not need the DX11 for another year or two. However the nVidia physics engine seems to gain space and the 275 has that. I don't see anything listed for physics for the 5770. Does ATI have anything comparable?

ATI doesn't have anything of their own on the physics side. DX 11 does bring some physics into games, but I think the 5770 will have trouble running DX11 at a decent resolution/settings.
I don't know how many games really provide Nvidia's PhysX, it doesn't seem like many, maybe they will have more later.
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a b Î Nvidia
April 20, 2010 9:46:57 AM

You'll take a performance hit causing you to lower your settings if you use PhysX. It's really only useful for SLI /SLI-CF configurations.

If you have $250 as a max, an HD5830 would also work.
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April 20, 2010 1:21:31 PM

I ended up with the BFG GTX 275 for $231 with next day shipping. Thanks for the link notty22! I did not know about that website. I have been shopping for ever on the egg. But they had it for $254 and 3 day shipping. Lifetime warranty was also a factor. This time I better register though lol.

At the end I had to agree with Hazerath. If I want to play DX11 at high resolution, max settings, I better start looking at $400 and up. Although my 8800 was a DX10 card, I could not max out when playing DX10. For example I ended up playing Metro 2033 in DX9. 99% of the games I have played on that 8800 were DX9 games. I suspect had I gone the 5830 or 5770 route I would have ended up playing DX10 90% of the time for similar reasons.

Thanks for all of your inputs!!!!

Btw those charts in this thread... Are they from tom's or some other place? They look good.
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April 20, 2010 1:29:57 PM

For a 200$ budget i chose the 260 GTX

BUT****** if you can hang in there another hundred dollars(if at all possible) go with the ATI 5850

The 5850 performs very well and hangs in there with the 295 which is 495$

There is little performance hit when AA is on with the 5850 as well

Bottom line>> 260 GTX for 200 and if at all possible save for a 5850 :) 

Uber
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April 20, 2010 2:00:33 PM

lol thanks! :-) credit card was already charged for that BFG 275. It was $219 + $11 for overnight shipping. I think that $20 was worth over the 260.
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April 20, 2010 2:08:18 PM

You will be satisfied with your purchase, the 275 is quite an upgrade from your 8800
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