Pci e x16 slot/graphics card help

[yaright]

allright right now i ahve a horrible intel g33/g31 express chipset family, and it cant paly anything really newer than 2006 games.

i want a new graphics card that will perfrom good with good fps on msot of todays games, and the other good stuff.

my specs Windows Vista Home Premium Edition SP1 (Build 6001)
CPU Arch : 1 CPU - 2 Cores - 2 Threads
CPU PSN : Intel Pentium Dual CPU E2200 @ 2.20GHz
CPU EXT : MMX, SSE (1, 2, 3, 3S), EM64T
CPUID : 6.F.D / Extended : 6.F
CPU Cache : L1 : 2 x 32 / 2 x 32 KB - L2 : 1024 KB
Core : Conroe (65 nm) / Stepping : M0
Freq : 2200.19 MHz (200.02 * 11)
MB Brand : Asus
MB Model : Benicia
NB : Intel P35/G33/G31 rev A2
SB : Intel 82801IR (ICH9R) rev 02
GPU Type : Intel(R) G33/G31 Express Chipset Family
DirectX Version : 10.0
RAM : 3072 MB DDR2 Dual Channel
RAM Speed : 400 MHz (1:2) @ 6-6-6-18
Slot 1 : 1024MB (6400)
Slot 1 Manufacturer : Samsung
Slot 2 : 512MB (6400)
Slot 2 Manufacturer : Qimonda
Slot 3 : 1024MB (6400)
Slot 3 Manufacturer : Samsung
Slot 4 : 512MB (6400)
Slot 4 Manufacturer : Qimonda

i was told to probbaly get the radeon 5770 http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/a-t-i-ati-radeon-hd5770-1024mb-gddr5-pci-e-video-card-a5770pe51g/10134637.aspx?path=7d287623db93e9b9822c8a5b5bf9063een02

but i only have 1 pcie x16 slot and 2 other really small ones. so i was wondering if


http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/xfx-radeon-hd-4650-1gb-gddr2-pci-e-video-card/10125543.aspx?path=514da0ba9bbcabf2be7d5a67e1b77ca2en02

or

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/ati-radeon-hd-4650-1gb-gddr2-pci-e-video-card/10113667.aspx?path=4bb309d9db6ed954e22861f6eeb19dc7en02

would work my computer, and play most of todays games with good fps,performance and stuff lik that

thanks for your help

heres dxdiag for more information

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System Information
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Time of this report: 4/19/2010, 18:30:58
Machine name: AUSTINPWN-PC
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.100218-0019)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: HP-Pavilion
System Model: KJ379AAR-ABA a6400f
BIOS: BIOS Date: 06/16/08 11:02:10 Ver: 5.25
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2200 @ 2.20GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.2GHz
Memory: 3062MB RAM
Page File: 2059MB used, 4276MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 6.00.6001.18000 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: Intel(R) G33/G31 Express Chipset Family
Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
Chip type: Intel(R) GMA 3100
DAC type: Internal
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29C2&SUBSYS_2A6F103C&REV_02
Display Memory: 286 MB
Dedicated Memory: 0 MB
Shared Memory: 286 MB
Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
Driver Name: igdumd32.dll
Driver Version: 7.14.0010.1461 (English)
DDI Version: 9Ex
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 3/25/2008 20:44:28, 3301376 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B78E66-6A82-11CF-3976-650AA3C2CA35}
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x29C2
SubSys ID: 0x2A6F103C
Revision ID: 0x0002
Revision ID: 0x0002

 

[outlw6669]

All three of those GPUs will work just fine in your system.
The 5770 does not need two PCIe connections, it only takes up two slots worth of space because of the cooler.

Of the three I would defiantly recommend the 5770.
It is massively more powerful than a DDR2 4650.
Just make sure your PSU is powerful enough!

 

[yaright]

ok thanks, btw is there a program that can tell me my psu or somthing?

 

[outlw6669]

No, you will have to open your case and check the lable.

 

[yaright]

mm well theres lots of stuff, ill just post it all down,

input 100-127v-6a , 200-240v-3a 50/60 hz

output 250w max +5v & +3.3v 165wmax , +5v & 12v 218 w max

got a feeling its crap and wont lemme get a new one like 5770 or somthing

 

[outlw6669]

Yeah, that is quite underpowered.
You would be hard pressed to run even a low power 4650 or 4670 on that PSU :/

I would highly recommend upgrading to a quality 450w+ Corsair, PCP&C, Seasonic, Enermax or Antec PSU before upgrading your GPU.

 

[yaright]

ok, would http://www.factorydirect.ca/catalog/product_spec.php?pcode=PO0450

bee good? enough for 5770 radeon video card and recent games? ? also, is video card and graphics card the same thing?


or maybe this http://www.walmart.com/ip/Corsair-TX-Series-80-Plus-650-Watt-Certified-Power-Supply-CMPSU-650TX/12457253

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=12457800&findingMethod=rr&

 

[outlw6669]

Yes, a video card, graphics card and GPU are all the same thing.
Just different terms for the same item.

Of the power supplies you list, the Corsair is the only one I would recommend.
It is quite a bit more powerful than you really need though.
Assuming you are within the US, I would recommend the $60 SeaSonic SS-500ET.
It is a high quality PSU and will have no issues running your system.

If you must purchase from one of the sites you listed, I would recommend either the Antec Earthwatts 430w or Corsair 500w.
Both are also very high quality PSUs, just priced slightly higher.