FullHD Editing Comp : do i need professional graphic ?

[gulftown32]

i've just bought full hd camcorder last week, but my comp seems to be slow to handle and edit those videos (currently i use premiere cs3 for video editing, maybe i'm gonna purchase cs5 soon).

my current computer specification : core 2 duo e7300 @ 2.26, ddr2 4gb ram, ati hd 4670, 500gb 7200 rpm hdd.

what computer specification would you guys recommend for my new comp ?

APPROX. PURCHASE DATE : one month from now

BUDGET : $1500 - no need OS and monitor

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT : premiere full hd editing and rendering, photoshop, some games, multitasking, and browsing

PART PREFERENCES :
- core i7 processor
- corsair power supply (it's good, eh ?)
- cpu cooling (do i need liquid cooling ?)

OVERCLOCKING : Not now, maybe in the future

SLI OR CROSSFIRE : also maybe in the future

since i use this comp much for video editing, should i purchase the professional class graphics such as nvidia's quadro fx or ati's firepro ? if yes, what are the advantages of those graphics over nvidia geforce and ati radeon ?

thanks for your help !

 

[alexpdx]

Hi,

What OS are you currently running? If you're coming from 32bit XP, I would suggest you also upgrade to Win7 64bit as Premiere Pro CS5 requires 64bit and you'll want to take advantage of this to increase your RAM as well.

I just did a build centered around Photoshop CS5 and Vegas Pro 9 and went with the following:

Case: Coolermaster HAF932
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160

PSU: Corsair 750TX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006

Mobo: ASUS P6X58D Premium
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131614

CPU: I7-930 with Cooler: Hyper 212+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115225
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

*NewEgg also has above Mobo + CPU in combo deal:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.369319

RAM: Gskill 6gb (3x 2gb) PI series
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231335

GPU: You have a few options here depending on budget but will definitely want to go with NVIDIA (!) due to OpenGL and CUDA support.
A little snippet from studiodaily.com:
"For the past three years, Adobe has been secretly working on what it calls the Mercury Playback Engine. The company teamed up with graphics card giant NVIDIA, using that company's multithreaded Cuda graphics architecture that uses the GPU (graphics processing unit), to significantly accelerate both previews and rendering in Premiere Pro. Unfortunately, those who would rather use ATI graphics cards don't get to share in the tremendous benefits of Mercury, but Adobe says that might change sometime in the future."
Full article:
http://www.studiodaily.com/main/technique/craft/f/editing/Adobe-Premiere-Pro-CS5_12107.html

You may want to check my recent build thread here with plenty of good advice, also on GPUs:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/285836-31-kindly-advise-build-vegas

Also take note of blackmagic's products as indicated in above thread or their website:
http://www.blackmagic-design.com/
I'll be looking into purchasing the Intensity soon to output to secondary display.

You don't need liquid cooling unless you're planning to radically overclock your system. But certainly add a decent third-party CPU cooler such as the Hyper 212+ and look into a case which provides good airflow.

Yes, the Corsair PSUs are great quality. I just installed my first one and have no concerns, very solid and cables are plenty long for installation in a full tower.

 

[jabba359]

since i use this comp much for video editing, should i purchase the professional class graphics such as nvidia's quadro fx or ati's firepro ? if yes, what are the advantages of those graphics over nvidia geforce and ati radeon ?

Adobe works a lot with nVidia, so that is the card I'd go with. If you're picking up CS5, then a CUDA card is almost vital to speed up the playback engine. I wouldn't spend the big dollars on a quadro card. Any CUDA card with 765MB or more RAM will do. You might have to do a little very simple hacking -if you can even call it that- to get the "unsupported" CUDA cards to work, but it is very easy to do. Check out this thread on details on how to enable playback acceleration: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/adobe-creative-suite/477968-how-make-premiere-cs5-work-gtx-295-possibly-all-200-gpus.html

 

[gulftown32]

first of all, thanks for your reply.

yes, i currently run on 32bit XP SP2. but don't worry about it. i'll upgrade my os to win7 64bit
ultimate once i get the premiere cs5. for os upgrade, i have separate budget. so $1500 is only for the new hardware.

GPU: You have a few options here depending on budget but will definitely want to go with NVIDIA (!) due to OpenGL and CUDA support.
A little snippet from studiodaily.com:
"For the past three years, Adobe has been secretly working on what it calls the Mercury Playback Engine. The company teamed up with graphics card giant NVIDIA, using that company's multithreaded Cuda graphics architecture that uses the GPU (graphics processing unit), to significantly accelerate both previews and rendering in Premiere Pro. Unfortunately, those who would rather use ATI graphics cards don't get to share in the tremendous benefits of Mercury, but Adobe says that might change sometime in the future."
Full article:
http://www.studiodaily.com/main/technique/craft/f/editing/Adobe-Premiere-Pro-CS5_12107.html

after looking that article, i will definitely purchase an nvidia graphic.
however, should i go for the professional class graphic like quadro fx ?
that kind gpu maybe will make me out of budget, but i can save money to purchase it later.

 

[gulftown32]

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