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April 21, 2010 4:46:40 PM

here is my question, should i get the 300$ version of the 5850 or gtx470, or go all out and get the "toxic" radeon hd 5850 with 2GB of VRAM and more overclocking headroom for 80$ more? or should i just try to get a lower end 400$ radeon hd 5870 and overclock that. for best lasting card.

so to sum it up, 5850 for $300 gtx470 for $350, hd 5850 for $380, or hd 5870 for $400.

these are all in my pricerange.

which one is the fastest single card that will hold me out for ~years?

i will never be upgrading my computer. i am only buying one graphics card and going to try to get that to last me for ~6 years. in 6 years i just want it to be able to play games but not play them on maximum settings.

*note* i am running one monitor at 1920x1080.
and i prefer to purchase these at newegg.com, unless there is a 20%+ price difference in another place.

corei5750 cpu
i do not plan to crossfire/SLI in the future.
750watt 8pin+6pin PCIe connectors.

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April 21, 2010 4:55:50 PM

In 6 years time its a good bet that games will be something like DX13 or 14 only, So no support for a DX11 card.

I think the best bet is the GTX470 for $350 as its about 10% faster than a HD5850 for just $50 more.

Although you have to think about if the power usage of the GTX470 and the high temps are a concern for you or not.
April 21, 2010 5:34:43 PM

5850.
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April 21, 2010 10:50:09 PM

Rustyy117 said:
In 6 years time its a good bet that games will be something like DX13 or 14 only, So no support for a DX11 card.

I think the best bet is the GTX470 for $350 as its about 10% faster than a HD5850 for just $50 more.

Although you have to think about if the power usage of the GTX470 and the high temps are a concern for you or not.



what about overclocking though? i will be overclocking. so to make the question shorter. what is the single card that is the fastest out of those 4, after overclocking. power usage and heat arent a concern, but if the gtx 470 produces alot of heat then that doesnt show much headroom for overclocking as to where the radeon hd 5850 might surpass that. i'm not sure i cant find any benchmarks comparing the cards highest performance AFTER OVERCLOCK.
April 22, 2010 12:29:58 AM

Gtx470 gets my vote. Sli one of those later, you shall be rocking.
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April 22, 2010 12:58:54 AM

Choose a 5850 that has voltage adjustment if you plan on o/c . That will give you , the most bang for your buck. Don't get caught up on whether its the 'best'. You can not future proof , and certainly not for 6 years.
2011 is going to bring 28nm gpu's. The 4870 came out 17 months ago? A year after that , the 5870 was released being 2X as fast. Who knows where we will be 15 months from now ?
April 22, 2010 1:43:17 AM

6 years??? whoaa
April 22, 2010 2:22:27 AM

HansVonOhain said:
Gtx470 gets my vote. Sli one of those later, you shall be rocking.


i dont plan on SLI or multi GPU in the future, and out of these GPU's below, are what i plan on getting. Pick which one you would choose. i've got a few people on the GTX470s and a few on the hd 5850s but no definate reason why. thanks for your help.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... standard 5850 ~$300
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... good cooler 5850 ~$320
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... standard gtx470 ~$350
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... high end 5850 ~$380
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... standard 5870 ~$400


so pretty much, which card will "future proof my computer for the longest" remember i do not plan to SLI/CrossfireX i only plan on overclocking to the maximum the card can hold when they start to get old

:p  6 years was an exaggeration.
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April 22, 2010 2:27:31 AM

I would get the 5850, with voltage many people get the performance (not clocks) beyond the 5870.
April 22, 2010 2:29:59 AM

sabot00 said:
I would get the 5850, with voltage many people get the performance (not clocks) beyond the 5870.



which 5850 though, the standard. 300$, the midrange OCing320$ or the high end 2gb 380$ one?

and how well would overclocking the other graphics cards compare to the 5850?... such as overclocking the basic 5870? vs a 5850 with aftermarket cooler and 2GB of memory. would the 5870 still be better, or would the 5850 have a slight edge on the 5870 then??
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April 22, 2010 4:01:43 AM

Ok. I will be the only one that likes the 5870 in this situation. The 5850 and 470 are good cards at a good price, but after they are OCed, they barely (if I may say so liberally) beat the 5870 in performance.

That is the reason why I would get the 5870. While the other cards have to be OCed to reach the 5870 power, it will have more performance room because it haven't reached its max as yet.

In a few years when games are pushing the OCed 5850 and 470, you will then be able to OC the 5870 and play the games as smooth as you like.
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April 22, 2010 10:51:01 AM

Ok you might start a flame war by asking which card has more overclocking headroom because some people may say that the GTX470 has alot of overclocking headroom, and all you have to do is crank up the fan speed, But the problem with that is, its going to sound like a hairdryer.

So its really personal preference, if you dont mind the loud noise or don't consider 100% fan speed loud then you'll be able to overclock the GTX470 alot. (maybe to GTX480 clocks)

I've got a reference Gigabyte HD5850 and it overclocks really well, I managed to get it to 922Mhz Core (725 Stock) and 4800Mhz Memory (4000 Stock) with stock voltage.
But I like piece and quiet and I had to have the fan at 40% to keep the card below 80C while gaming at that overclock.

So I brought myself a waterblock for the 5850 and then overclocked some more, with the help of additional voltage and now my 5850 is running at 1000/4800.


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