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April 22, 2010 2:07:44 PM

I am putting together a system for a friend. The machine will be used exclusively for business use (web, email, some accounting software packages). Maybe some very light gaming. I have selected this mobo for the build:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

(1) He wants to be able to run dualmonitors at 1920 x 1080 or maybe 1920x1200. Can this be done with just the integrated video or would I need a video card?

(2) If he wants to run three displays I assume he would need a video card. Would we need a 5000 series radeon to do this? What would be the most cost effective way to run three monitors for a non-gaming application? Radeon 5450?

Thanks in advance.

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a c 1429 U Graphics card
April 22, 2010 3:10:23 PM

Dual monitors should run using the D-sub (VGA) and either DVI-D or HDMI. The DVI and HDMI can not both display at the same time.
To run a 3 monitors of a hd5xxx card one of them needs to have a display port.
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a b U Graphics card
April 22, 2010 4:06:29 PM

Good, solid choice of motherboard.
(1) Not be a problem as rolli59 mentions.
(2) 5000 series not required. You can get a silent Radeon HD 4350 for about $25. It's more 'powerful' than the onboard HD 4200 graphics chip.
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a b U Graphics card
April 22, 2010 4:26:21 PM

Firstly, NO. He cannot or you cannot run two monitors from the onboard graphics of this board ( Or as far as I know, It's not available with Onboard graphics capabilities of any mobo)

To run 2 monitors he will need a graphics card ( I believe all of them do have DISPLAY Ports) ANY card supporting 2 displays will work (Too many of them out there to list here)

To run 3 Display from the machine, he'll need a card that supports 3 Monitors or a combination of VGA link converters to get all the displays to work at the same Frequency and resolution.

Check out the following topics here and elsewhere for more info...

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2006/12/joining-the-pr...

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/219082-33-hooking-mon...

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/187299-33-help-choosi...

Hope this helps
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a b U Graphics card
April 22, 2010 4:38:54 PM

alyoshka said:
Firstly, NO. He cannot or you cannot run two monitors from the onboard graphics of this board ( Or as far as I know, It's not available with Onboard graphics capabilities of any mobo)
rolli59 says he can. I said he can. And THG says he can Output: Dual-Monitor, HDMI, Up To 4 Monitors (780G motherboard in this example).

Not all video cards have Display Port connectors. And they're not needed in most cases, including the OPs proposed project.
Video card to support 3 monitors not required. VGA link converts not required. Getting all displays to work at same frequency and resolution also not required.
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April 22, 2010 4:42:47 PM

Onboard graphics cards can't display on more then one monitor at a time. They usually have just one VGA port, sometimes one DVI port. However I have seen some motherboards that don't have a VGA port but that have TWO DVI ports. I don't know if its able to display from both ports at the same time though, you can do research on that if you want, if it works it might save you or the client some money on this pc :) 

As for light gaming, these days most standard motherboards that you buy in stores have a mimimum of 128-256mb graphics cards which aint all that bad for light gaming depending on how light the gaming exactly is. Only thing is the pc has to have decent RAM that goes with it, I'd say 1GB sould be enough but don't go less then 1GB if you plan on having only the onboard graphics card as it will take its memory from the RAM.

Hope this helps at least a lil bit.
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a b U Graphics card
April 22, 2010 4:55:34 PM

WR2 said:
rolli59 says he can. I said he can. And THG says he can Output: Dual-Monitor, HDMI, Up To 4 Monitors (780G motherboard in this example).

Not all video cards have Display Port connectors. And they're not needed in most cases, including the OPs proposed project.
Video card to support 3 monitors not required. VGA link converts not required. Getting all displays to work at same frequency and resolution also not required.


Again you have not got it right.......
"When equipped with a hybrid-enabled ATI graphics card, the system can drive up to four monitors, with the add-in card providing connectivity for the additional two displays. Depending on the manufacturer, a typical add-in card will either sport two DVI ports or one DVI and one VGA connector."

Is what it says......" With a Hybrid enabled ATI Graphics Card".....

4-TFT Configuration
Monitor 1: On-board - VGA
Monitor 2: On-board - DVI
Monitor 3: Graphics Card - DVI
Monitor 4: Graphics Card - VGA

and he says
"He wants to be able to run dualmonitors at 1920 x 1080 or maybe 1920x1200"

Not with the onboard graphics and the 512MB of RAM......

I think I have major doubts about this setup with out an added card......
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a c 1429 U Graphics card
April 22, 2010 5:18:39 PM

My post is based on following information from Gigabytes site video connectors;
# 1 x D-Sub port
# 1 x DVI-D port (Note 2)(Note 3)
# 1 x HDMI port (Note 3)
Relevant foot notes;
(Note 2) The DVI-D port does not support D-Sub connection by adapter.
(Note 3) Simultaneous output for DVI-D and HDMI is not supported.
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a b U Graphics card
April 22, 2010 5:22:19 PM

QED.........
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a b U Graphics card
April 22, 2010 5:41:32 PM

alyoshka said:
"When equipped with a hybrid-enabled ATI graphics card, the system can drive up to four monitors, with the add-in card providing connectivity for the additional two displays.
QED......... that leaves the onboard driving TWO monitors. As in 2 for the add-in card and 2 off the motherboard.

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April 23, 2010 2:36:33 AM

ok guys thanks for the input, it has been very helpfull. To clear up any confusion about ram: we will be using at least two GB of ram maybe four. Yeah I know, seems like overkill to run excell and IE and crunch numbers but this guy just likes his ram for some reason. OK one more question: To get the hybrid functionality to work as mentioned above, which would enable the use of 4 monitors, would the above mentioned HD 4350 work? I have read in some reviews on newegg for some particular mobos that only certain gpu's will work with hybrid technology.








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a b U Graphics card
April 23, 2010 3:50:06 AM

guggas said:
To get the hybrid functionality to work as mentioned above, which would enable the use of 4 monitors, would the above mentioned HD 4350 work? I have read in some reviews on newegg for some particular mobos that only certain gpu's will work with hybrid technology.
You're right about the 'certain GPU' restriction. Even though the onboard IGP is HD 4200 it still only works in hybrid mode with HD3450/HD3470. There is a note Im trying to track down that says 758G/HD 4200 will work in hybrid mode with newer video cards (HD 5450 for example).

The HD 4350 would work OK as far as providing two additional monitor support. It just wouldn't crossfire with the HD 4200 IGP to get a small boost in 3D/gaming performance. In Hybrid Crossfire mode you'd only be using 1 monitor for gaming anyway. It's not a 3 or 4 monitor mode option.

I know one objective of this build will be for 'some very light gaming'. Can you better describe the scope of that?
Im leaning toward suggesting a more robust discrete video card option and not bothering with Hybrid Crossfire mode at all.

Have you looked over the feature set of AMD's Hydravision Multi-monitor Management Software yet?
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April 23, 2010 4:36:47 AM

very light gaming....I probably should not have mentioned that...anything from solitare to tetris to maybe SC1.
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April 23, 2010 4:37:35 AM

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a b U Graphics card
April 23, 2010 1:11:12 PM

The usual 2D arcade, board and casino type games don't hardly quality as gaming - at least in hardware requirements.
The HD 4350 will take a good run at SC1 but may need a lower screen resolution for comfortable gameplay.
If you're at all interested in SC2 there are some early benchmarks out over at LegionHardware.


Hybrid Crossfire notes: AMD isn't making it easy to find up-to-date info on the current status. Probably 'cause it's not good news.
Only the HD 3470/3450 supported on the 700 series motherboards. AMD Crossfire Compatibility Chart

The 890G motherboards are out for over a month now. They claim Hybrid Crossfire as a feature but say "Visit the AMD ATI website for the latest graphics card support list" which is non-existent and the AMD ATI forums aren't helpful at the moment.

General consensus in prior recommendations have been to bypass Hybrid Crossfire option in favor of better performing 4xxx/5xxx series cards.
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April 23, 2010 8:58:33 PM

yeah thanks for the info. As far as SC2 I'm currently playing the beta on my own machine which has an ati 5770 and an amd phenomII 945 3.0ghz x4, 4 gigs ddr2, win 7 pro x64. It does not perform as well as I had hoped on SC2 if I put the game settings on very high, or even just high it lags pretty bad. Hopefuly that will get better with a full launch of the game.
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June 12, 2010 2:39:44 PM

I just wanted to ask if the integrated video cards always work with the new add on video card. I have a Gateway Sx2800 with intel systemboard and g43 chipset and Intel GMA X4500 integrated card. The add on card is a Jaton with nVidia GeForce 8400 GS. Once I install the new card it automatically disables the integrated card. I have gone into the BIOS to try and set one as primary and one as secondary but I can only pick one or the other as primary. There is no secondary option. Is this just a matter of updating the BIOS or does my MOBO not support the use of both the integrated and add on Video card. I have been trying to get this to work for over a month now so any help would be great.
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