WoW Gaming Comp - 800-1000 budg.

[Chayce_1994]

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Within next month. BUDGET RANGE: Under 1000 CAD after taxes.[

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, surfing internet, word processing work.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Mouse, monitor, speakers.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Tigerdirect, Newegg.ca, anything trustworthy that ships to Canada.

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: Canada

PARTS PREFERENCES: No Junk, would like something I can use in the future, only be playing WoW.

OVERCLOCKING: Most Likely. SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No SLI, not sure what crossfire is, don't think I want it.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1024x768, possibly a little bigger in future.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: First time to try building a computer, would like 60+ FPS in World of Warcraft at max settings, possibly with shadowing on.
Any kits would also be nice. Barebone kits, whatever they are.

 

[MadAdmiral]

CPU: X3 440 $77
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 $160
GPU: HD 5770 $147 after rebate
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 $123
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 500 GB $57
Case: Coolermaster 690 $70 (before 10 USD rebate, $60 in total)
PSU: Corsair 650W $100 (before 10 USD rebate, $90 in total)
Optical: Cheap SATA DVD burner $26
OS: Windows 7 Home 64-bit OEM $109

Total: $849

 

[Chayce_1994]

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[dirtmountain]

It's www.newegg.ca

 

[Chayce_1994]

Wow, thats for that... I was going to .com. -.-

Also, is the build posted above good enough for 60 fps wow, max settings? Like I said, I know nothing about this.

 

[foggydj]

Yeah you'll get 60 fps with that setup assuming that your connection speed and latency are ok. In a 25-man raid situation, it's hard to predict, but you should get at least 30 fps which is great. I've heard of people with mid-end comps get the same fps as people with high-end comps, so i think there's a certain point where faster/better components won't help increase performance.

If money is an issue, you could probably save $100 by getting a different mobo and video card. The 5770 is overkill for WoW. I could be wrong though!

See my spec below. I get the same fps that i described above.

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AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE 3.2GHz | ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO | G.SKILL 4GB DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) F3-10600CL8D-4GBHK | XFX GeForce 9800 GT 512MB | Corsair CMPSU-650TX 650W | WD Caviar Blue 500GB | Scythe Katana 3 HSF | GELID FN-FW12-15-B 120mm WING 12 | Windows 7 64-bit

 

[dirtmountain]

Like foggydj says WoW has a lot to do with server latency and density. You'll get 60fps in every non demanding area, such as general questing and farming. In high demand areas such as Dalaran, 25 man raids or PvP areas you'll drop fps. Say Wintergrasp with 80 player chars on screen you'll drop in fps. Tune your settings until you're happy with the results, keep shadow effects to a minimum. Personally i'd stick with the 5770, it's good performance for the cost right now. If crossfire isn't in your future (i don't use it, i upgrade my GPU when the old one gets too slow) you could go with a 770 or an 870 motherboard and drop to a 500w power supply.

 

[fpoama]

Like foggydj says, 5770 is overkill for WoW. I managed around 130 fps with everything on max on 1024 x 768 resolution with my 5670 while general questing, and it drops a little when you are in raids, etc. Running it on my new monitor which is 1080p I'm still able to get around 90 fps so this should have no problems staying above 60 fps.

 

[Chayce_1994]

Is all of these compatible, are the cables/wires with it, or must I order them alone, if yes how do I know what they are. Basically the build MadAdmiral said. Also, any changes that could be made to benifet me? This is already over my budget, 1005$.

COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137

AMD Athlon II X3 440 Rana 3.0GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Desktop Processor
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103843

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231303

HIS H577FM1GD Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161317

GIGABYTE GA-870A-UD3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128443

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181

Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD/CD Rewritable Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118030

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754

CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005

 

[MadAdmiral]

Here's a cheaper board, especially with shipping: Gigabyte GA-770TA-UD3 (combo with the X3). That'll save you nearly $30.

I would also definitely switch the optical to the one I linked to above. That'd save you a lot on shipping. Opticals are basically all the same, so you might as well get the cheapest one you can find.

 

[Chayce_1994]

Here's a cheaper board, especially with shipping: Gigabyte GA-770TA-UD3 (combo with the X3). That'll save you nearly $30.

I would also definitely switch the optical to the one I linked to above. That'd save you a lot on shipping. Opticals are basically all the same, so you might as well get the cheapest one you can find.

Thanks for the tip about the cheaper board, but the optical seems to require me to buy the Sata cables or whatever as they don't come with them. I don't even know what cables to get.

Edit: Just found out how to check private messages and you said that cables come with the board. So I should be good to go if I ordered that as of tomorrow? If I can get the money.

 

[bdbeall]

Unless you plan on getting an extraordinarily expensive monitor saying you want to get more than 60 fps is unnecessary. Most monitors, especially budget build monitors are only 60 hz which means they refresh 60 times a second. So if your rig is over that, you would never tell. So make sure your rig isnt so powerful you missing out because of your monitor. With that in mind, you probably can make some budget cuts.

 

[Chayce_1994]

The new WoW expansion is also coming out in September, October so I want to be prepared for that a bit, don't want to have to upgrade a ton.

I'd also like to be up in FPS during raids, pvp, at major cities... On my laptop I was doing on this with 6-10 fps max and it drove me crazy.

 

[bdbeall]

well what are the specs on your laptop?

 

[Chayce_1994]

Where could I find these specs, hah.

This is what I've found..

Vista Home Premium
Intel Core 2 Duo CPU T5550 @ 1.83 GHz(2 CPU)
3062MB Ram
Mobile Intel 965 Express Chipset Family (358 MB memory) --video card
Current Display mode -- 1280x800 32 bit (60Hz)
One Hard drive = 111g, other = 108g.

 

[Chayce_1994]

COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6811119137

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6820231303

HIS H577FM1GD Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6814161317

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6822152181

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA CD/DVD Burner - OEM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151192

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6832116754

CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6817139005

Gigabyte GA-770TA-UD3 (combo with the X3)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.381900

Changed setup to what MadAdmiral said.

983$ Taxes and Shipping included.

 

[bdbeall]

well that explains you dropping to 8-10 fps you dont have a legit video card and your running a dualcore sub 2.0GHZ processor. i think for a WOW machine 800-1000 is over budget 600 would do.

 

[Chayce_1994]

Worst part about my laptop is I was told that you can't change you video card in this laptop. Fail. Could you gear me up with a decent 600-700$ build? Probably in the end will just spend the money though.

 

[bdbeall]

if you dont need the monitor or wireless adapter so that gives you room to get smoe parts you just talked about

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6832116754

CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6817139005

HIS H577FM1GD Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6814161317

 

[Chayce_1994]

Might just suck it up and go with the other setup even though it'll be almost double in cost.

 

[Chayce_1994]

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