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May 27, 2010 5:48:52 AM

I'm planning on building a powerful gaming desktop.

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS P6X58D-E LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2 x G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9S-4GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

1 x ASUS EAH5870/2DIS/1GD5/V2 Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital VelociRaptor WD1500HLFS 150GB 10000 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm wanting to put in a 1000 watt PSU because I want to add a second graphics card later. I will also have additional hard drives and disc drives pulling power. I feel like that is a little too much, but in the long run I think I could need it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I also don't know what I want to do cooling wise. Not sure what to go with there. I want something good, but not too pricey.

My three potential coolers are:

CORSAIR Cooling Hydro Series CWCH50-1 120mm High Performance CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and

Thermaltake Frio Overclocking-Ready Intel Core i7 (six-core ready)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and

Spire TherMax Eclipse II SP984B1-V2 universal CPU Cooler
http://www.spirecoolers.com/main/product_detail.asp?Pro...

The Spire is supposed to be amazing. My main concern is that both the Thermaltake and the Spire are very heavy. I have had no experience with water cooling though.


EDIT:

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Before the end of this year. I can wait to buy, but I'm still looking at options.
BUDGET RANGE: 1500-2000 Before Rebates

I'm getting most parts from Newegg

I will probably overclock some amount and will eventually add another 5870, when it is less expensive in the future.

I like ASUS but otherwise I'm mainly just concerned with quality when it comes to manufacturers.




I appreciate any thoughts and comments.

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May 27, 2010 6:37:07 AM

Thanks, I have edited my post. I should have read the forums first, sorry.
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May 27, 2010 6:46:43 AM

Well planning well ahead of doing something is good, but it wont suit the PC industry...Tech changes every minute and by the time you actually buy the PC, a lot of things would have changed...
So for a build that you will be doing by this year-end, it wont be good if we suggest parts now...FYI, ATI and Nvidia are planning to launch newer cards by this year end...And same goes for Intel...they might launch a newer revised i7 say 935 or something...you never know...
Even though the suggestions given will be good now, it is not sure they will hold good by the time you actually buy the PC...
May 27, 2010 6:59:36 AM

This is true. I would mainly like advice on the PSU wattage and cooling options. I am also thinking that games will not get much more graphics intensive all of the sudden. They should still all play amazing on the 5870. Processor prices might drop so I might be able to get a faster one, but that won't really change. MOBO and memory are pretty much set. I guess I'd still like opinions on this build as it is currently. I'm going to be buying some parts soon, just not sure when. Depending on prices I might wait until the end of this year for some of the components. Although if your advice is to wait for better technology for the money I would understand that logic as well. I think this is a pretty solid build though, for gaming, now and in the future.
May 27, 2010 7:12:56 AM

^ Yes for the cases and the PSUs, those wont change often...
If you will be going wiht 2x HD 5870s, then you wont need more than 750W PSU...
So get a 750W-800W PSU from Corsair/ Antec TP series/ Silverstone/ Seasonic/ PCP&S...
And also say for any SLI/ Crossfire config, for 2 cards, you wont need more than 800W(850W if planning for cards like the GTX 480, but IMO not a good option)...

And start buying the components only when you will be able to buy the whole PC say within 1 month...Else wait till you save money for doing the same...
May 27, 2010 8:01:19 PM

What about cooling?
May 27, 2010 8:09:48 PM

You have a socket 1366 build, which means you need triple channel RAM, what you selected is dual channel. Look for a 6GB kit from G.Skill.

The CoolerMaster Hyper 212+ is very well reviewed and I would recommned it over those suggestions. It is $40 on Newegg, but can be had for less with a little searching.

You don't need a 1000watt PSU, especially with the new ATI cards. I would get a Corsair 850TX or HX (Modular), as that will cover any future upgrades you might make.

As for hard drives, the Velociraptors are alright, but you will get better overall performance from one of the newer single platter drives, like the Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB, or the Seagate 7200.12 500GB. The Velociraptor is not worth its price anymore with the drives like I just mentioned out. Not to mention those 500GB drives are $55...

Unless you prefer a full-tower case, the CoolerMaster HAF922 is quite similar, but almost half the price. It is a very large mid-tower case and is a very popular choice.



May 27, 2010 8:24:33 PM

Thanks for pointing out my memory mistake. That will lower build cost as well, since I'm not going to buy 3x4gb. Just curious but is 3x4gb faster than 6x2gb of RAM?

That heatsink looks great thanks for pointing it out. I'm really glad to see something of that quality for a low price.

As far as PSU goes I just have one last question. Doesn't the capability of your PSU go down with use. Capacitor aging or something? So potentially in a couple of years an 850 watt wouldn't be able to power 2 cards. I'm just wondering, I trust you guys, but I want to cover all my bases.

As for hard drives I thought faster RPMs were the best, but I guess I need to do some research.

I like full-towers :)  They aren't really that big and they have lots of space.
May 27, 2010 8:32:52 PM

You really don't need more than the 6GB of RAM. The performance is negligible between DIMM sizes, the only reason the 4GB sticks are more is because they have twice as much RAM on the same piece of plastic. Go with a 3x2GB kit and you will be set.

PSUs should not deteriorate over time. But if you buy a good one, or one thats a little more powerful than you need, it can work less and therefore last longer. That 850watt PSU is plenty for you, and Corsair is probably the top PSU brand.

The velociraptor does have faster RPMs, but the new drives are a lot more advanced and provide very comparable results. You can look up some information on them if you want, but I think you will be much happier with one of the drives I listed. If you want to have a fast boot drive, look into SSD in the next few months.

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