5850 vs 5870 for crysis 2

Hey, I'm trying to decide whether to get the 5850 or the 5870 for when crysis 2 comes out... I was thinking that for the extra $100 the 5870 wasn't that much better, just higher clock speeds which i could achieve via overclock, and a couple more processors... what're your opinions?

Reply to Martin 71

you are correct, plus Crysis 2 will be a console port. It should not be as demanding as the Crysis/Warhead unless its poorly optimized.

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Reply to ct1615

so... 5850? I don't want to spend $600 to xfire it though... if i do want to xfire, then for the price i could get a 5970... would that be worth it?

Reply to Martin 71

what is your CPU?
what is your monitor's native resolution?
are you running XP, Vista or 7?

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Reply to ct1615

Right...
AMD Athlon 64 x2 6400+ @3.2ghz
native res 1024x768 not buying a new monitor... i love crt's
win 7 64bit

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Reply to Martin 71

get an ATI 5750 and save your money for future motherboard & CPU upgrades...or just mail the money to me

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Reply to ct1615

Martin 71 wrote :

Right...
AMD Athlon 64 x2 6400+ @3.2ghz
native res 1024x768 not buying a new monitor... i love crt's
win 7 64bit

5770 on the high end.......your res is low

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Reply to spentshells

ct1615 wrote :

you are correct, plus Crysis 2 will be a console port. It should not be as demanding as the Crysis/Warhead unless its poorly optimized.

It will not be a console port from what I've heard. They are developing the console versions and the PC version at the same time, so it will be two completely separate versions of the game.

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Reply to Bluescreendeath

Bluescreendeath wrote :

It will not be a console port from what I've heard. They are developing the console versions and the PC version at the same time, so it will be two completely separate versions of the game.

so they are developing two separate game engines?? Maybe they are but from a business stand point that would be silly.

My guess (game is not out so we cant judge), the engine is designed to play on console and will be optimized to play on the PC like Far Cry 2, Fall Out 3, FEAR2, etc.,

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Reply to ct1615

spentshells wrote :

5770 on the high end.......your res is low

what do you mean? i've got a 5770 in my rig right now and i want to upgrade... i even said that i wasn't upgrading my monitor because i don't care about res, i care about textures, physics, effects, etc

Reply to Martin 71

LOL that res is already low for your gpu

you can max out the game in that res

a 5850 can max games in 1980X1050 get it if you upgrade your moniter
5870 is for pure gaming at high Res

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Reply to king game

The only reason to buy a high end card is for monitors with high resolution because they are needed to push the extra pixels otherwise its just overkill/waste of money.

Are you not getting good FPS with your card now?

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Reply to Dark Comet

no, im getting like 20-25 fps with everything on veryhigh/high in crysis with my 5770 and no aa af, 1024x768

Reply to Martin 71

or... i could wait for unlimited detail to come out....

Reply to Martin 71

^ In what, Crysis 1986555?

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Reply to builderbobftw

ya really... but check this out, it's really cool! if crysis supported this, you could play on any card.
http://unlimiteddetailtechnology.com/description.html

Reply to Martin 71

I think there is something wrong with you're card.

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Reply to builderbobftw

that's what i'm saying... im getting a new mobo, because i want to see if the new integrated sound, and pci-e 2.0 will help... i'm getting sound stutters too

Reply to Martin 71

^Better off winth new build, or just keeping the mobo.

Can you RMA?

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Reply to builderbobftw

why would i get a new build? and the mobo is an hp P.O.S mobo... one of the ones that comes pre-built with the system... i can't rma but i got a guy that wants to buy it.

Reply to Martin 71

^ You're gonna sell him a old dead HP mobo?

Where do you find these people?

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Reply to builderbobftw

builderbobftw wrote :

^ You're gonna sell him a old dead HP mobo?

Where do you find these people?

ebay is god's gift for junk collectors and sellers

P.S. I have a old DELL E521 case and mobo collecting dust. Sold the PSU for like $40 on ebay, may try the rest of the system.

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Reply to ct1615

lol, no man, i'm selling the gpu to the guy... the mobo works, but has some problems, so i'm not entirely sure what i'm gonna do with it. the integrated sound is crap, and whenever i play, games buzz and crackle.

Reply to Martin 71

ct1615 wrote :

ebay is god's gift for junk collectors and sellers

P.S. I have a old DELL E521 case and mobo collecting dust. Sold the PSU for like $40 on ebay, may try the rest of the system.

I know, I've checked around Ebay, i'm eying a 300$ GTX 295.

Gof ro it.

I've sold hundreds of Prebuilt mobos for 20-100$ eqach.

Ebay: Techsales21

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Reply to builderbobftw

ya... is it this one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/BFG-Geforce-GT [...] 2c543df5bf

Reply to Martin 71

sweet! o got an offer on the 5770... so what do you all think? will i end up getting the 5850 and wish i got the next step up like i did with the 5770? or will i be happy?

Reply to Martin 71

Yes Sir. (Dats the one)

I'll give ya a 100$ for the 5770 if no one buy sit.

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Reply to builderbobftw

So, why not wait until the game comes out and see what top performance vs dollar is for the game then? It's kind of silly to upgrade prior to a release, especially when there is no real shortage of cards.

Reply to spoofedpacket

^ We all know NV will dominate Crysis 2.

(THe way it's meant to be payed, and Optimiztion For even Warhead alredy)

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Reply to builderbobftw

yes, but nvidia has a crappy price/performance ratio

Reply to Martin 71

Not realy.

(The 350$ GTX 470 is faster than the average of the 5850 and the 5870)

Message edited by builderbobftw on 04-25-2010 at 11:47:54 PM

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Reply to builderbobftw

builderbobftw wrote :

Yes Sir. (Dats the one)

I'll give ya a 100$ for the 5770 if no one buy sit.

im selling it for $140 but if i get no sale, i'll sell for $125

Reply to Martin 71

Good Deal, But I'm looking for steal.

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Reply to builderbobftw

wow... ok

Reply to Martin 71

so you have some driver issues...thats about it
or you have a pentium 4

Reply to spentshells

^ Or a new AMD Hexcore.

(So firmware problems cuasing them to run slower than Core 2 Duos at games)

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Reply to builderbobftw

ct1615 wrote :

what is your CPU?
what is your monitor's native resolution?
are you running XP, Vista or 7?

MASSIVE BOTTLENECK AND OVERKILL

get a 5750 , will suit you very well

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Reply to demonnn

demonnn wrote :

MASSIVE BOTTLENECK AND OVERKILL

get a 5750 , will suit you very well

truthfully, this post makes no sense to me... i understand what bottleneck and over kill mean... but the message you quoted doesn't make any sense to your post... is my cpu bottlenecking? gpu? ram? this makes no sense. I'm not downgrading to a 5750... i want to upgrade.

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Message edited by Martin 71 on 04-27-2010 at 10:17:01 PM

Reply to Martin 71

Just ignore him, everybody else does.

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Reply to builderbobftw

Martin 71 wrote :

truthfully, this post makes no sense to me... i understand what bottleneck and over kill mean... but the message you quoted doesn't make any sense to your post... is my cpu bottlenecking? gpu? ram? this makes no sense. I'm not downgrading to a 5750... i want to upgrade.

i quoted the wrong message.

"Right...
AMD Athlon 64 x2 6400+ @3.2ghz
native res 1024x768 not buying a new monitor... i love crt's
win 7 64bit"

did not read that you had a 5770 , my bad

but still your cpu is bad and will bottleneck the 5850

Reply to demonnn

^ Not realy.

And only at that res.

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Reply to builderbobftw

ya... i'm planning on a phenom x4 soon...

Reply to Martin 71

You need all that hardware at that res?

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Reply to builderbobftw

I know... it seems like I should do just fine at my current res... can anyone point me to benchmarks for the 5770 on 1024x768 with crysis on very high? I can't find anything... I'm getting a phenom 2 x4 965, and then I should be able to play alright, right?

Reply to Martin 71

A 5770 could even play Doom at that res, it should be laughing at Crysis?

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Jermmau wrote :

A 5770 could even play Doom at that res, it should be laughing at Crysis?

whaat!? doom has terrible graphics! that's tragic! you're kidding right?!

Reply to Martin 71

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