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List of rebranded ATi Radeon graphic cards

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a b U Graphics card
April 24, 2010 5:08:24 AM

Could someone provide a list or some information about ATi's graphic card rebranding? It doesn't have to be recent, it can be the old X1000 series or even before that, Mobility Radeons included. This isn't intended to be flamebait, I am compiling a list of rebranded graphic cards, both ATi and nVidia. Any help would be much appreciated.

So far, thanks to TGGA, I have heard that the Radeon 9100 was actually an 8500 LE. Correct me if I'm wrong however.

As for some article on Guru3D or some random site that said ATi rebranded 11 ATi HD 3000 series cards to the HD 4000 series, I'm just ignoring it because I know it's not true.

a c 130 U Graphics card
April 24, 2010 11:02:56 AM

HD3K Definitely != HD4K.

The HD4200 is very similar to the HD4350 (integrated/discrete), the HD4350 can be OC'd, and I think it's a bit better at video decoding.
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April 24, 2010 9:58:20 PM

In essence, a HD4650 and 4670 are the same in terms of power as a HD2900/3800 series GPU. They all have 320 SPUs.

The difference is most likley in the process and tech available. The 3800 series has DX10.1 and the 4000 series has DX10.1. The rest are not rebranded but are the same GPU that didn't make it to the top. Much like with CPUs, GPUs have a binning system. They test the chip and if some SPUs don't work it goes to a lower bin or if it can't clock as high it does. So a HD4770 is a HD4870 but it didn't pass all the tests and instead of throwing them out, they just bin them lower.

But other than that, the HD5K, HD4k, HD3K and HD2K series all run of the same tech and are far different from the previous gen.

Its not like when nVidia does those. Their GPUs are literally rebranded. That means its the same GPU with just minor tweaks, much like a stepping change in CPUs.
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April 24, 2010 10:02:33 PM

Just the 5000 series are capable of DX11. Get it right!
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April 24, 2010 10:20:48 PM

^Yea forgot a 0 there.

Either way, ATI doesn't seem to "rebrand their GPUs as often or in the same manor as nVidia.

They might but normally the GPU gets a major face lift.
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April 24, 2010 10:44:34 PM

jimmysmitty said:
In essence, a HD4650 and 4670 are the same in terms of power as a HD2900/3800 series GPU. They all have 320 SPUs.

The difference is most likley in the process and tech available. The 3800 series has DX10.1 and the 4000 series has DX10.1. The rest are not rebranded but are the same GPU that didn't make it to the top. Much like with CPUs, GPUs have a binning system. They test the chip and if some SPUs don't work it goes to a lower bin or if it can't clock as high it does. So a HD4770 is a HD4870 but it didn't pass all the tests and instead of throwing them out, they just bin them lower.

But other than that, the HD5K, HD4k, HD3K and HD2K series all run of the same tech and are far different from the previous gen.

Its not like when nVidia does those. Their GPUs are literally rebranded. That means its the same GPU with just minor tweaks, much like a stepping change in CPUs.



I agree with you that nVidia is much worse about just rebranding the same product. However it is somewhat amazing that a 2 year old architecture is still relatively competitive except for not having Dx11.

BTW, you are not correct about a HD4770 being a HD4870 with some shaders disabled. The HD4770 was the first ATI card built on the 40nm process, so it could have not been from the same die as the 4870. Granted they used the same processing software, but they could not have been from the same die.
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April 25, 2010 12:01:56 AM

^No the 4770 is the same arch. Process makes no difference really. Like a Phenom vs a Phenom II. Same arch, different process.

It is essentially the same GPU just not as fast.
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a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2010 12:09:44 AM

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a HD4770 is a HD4870 but it didn't pass all the tests and instead of throwing them out, they just bin them lower.


They never made a 40nm 4870, that is the mis statement.
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a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2010 1:39:48 AM

As a owner of a XFX 4770, I am interested about its hardware specs, so I was checking out some launch reviews and saw this picture/comparison and thought it was relevant to the ops question. http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...

edit: I am also a fan of Nvidia and believe they are over flamed on this rebranding.
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a c 130 U Graphics card
April 25, 2010 1:59:55 AM

Notty is a fan of nvidia?
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April 25, 2010 2:09:50 AM

As I said above notty, the HD47790 and HD4870 run basically in the same arch. Its the same overall just a different process.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
April 25, 2010 2:30:06 AM

I don't know where you got that from but you are simply incorrect. Most cards of a particular series usually share a similar architecture. This is normal and has nothing to do with rebranding. Some even share the same processor that is slightly modified(HD4850/70, HD5750/70, HD5830/50/70.) The HD4770 is not a dieshrink of the HD4870, if it was it would be a better card, not significantly worse. In fact every other card in the mid/high range of the HD4xxx series is more similar to the HD4870 than the HD4770.
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a c 363 U Graphics card
April 25, 2010 2:39:56 PM

Generally speaking, ATI (AMD) does not rebrand their cards.

On the other hand, nVidia does... all the time...
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a b U Graphics card
May 9, 2010 2:25:38 PM

This really deserves its own thread ,
ATI is rebranding, oh and their doing it on dx10.1 tech.
http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/05/06/ati-mobility-rad...
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We don’t quite follow AMD’s logic here, as the company now appears to have three different names for what at least on paper appears to be the same GPU.
We’re not big fans of all this rebranding, no matter which manufacturer it comes from, but at least if you know what you’re looking for, AMD’s system is clearer than Nvidia’s.
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a b U Graphics card
May 10, 2010 7:50:45 AM

The Radeon 9100 is no longer a loner in the rebranded ATi cards section! :D 

Well, I did a bit more research and this is what three of the cards have been rebranded to:

ATi Mobility Radeon HD 4650 to HD 560v, HD 4570 to HD 5145 and HD 4670 to HD 5165.

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a b U Graphics card
May 10, 2010 12:25:02 PM

Good thing. The mobile HD versions are slower than the desktop versions, it was misleading.
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