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July 31, 2010 4:31:20 AM

Hello,
I'm looking at a CPU Mobo combo for video editing. I'd also like to play games on this too(not hardcore just enough to enjoy what the new games have to offer)

I was looking at the AMD Phenom II X4 965 and 955 this is my first build so if you can keep you answer dumbed down I'd appreciate that :D . I know nothing of OCing but it would be fun to check it out. I'd like to keep this build around $750

so far I have:
1 2tb WD green drive
Antec EarthWatts EA650 watt PSU
Antec Nine Hundred Case(what the hell)

I have about 400-500 to spend

I was also thinking a 60 gig ssd or bigger v.raptor

any help would be nice guys

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July 31, 2010 5:29:45 AM

Forget getting the SSD.. They are very highly priced.. Also opt out of the WD Green drive.. Get a single 500GB drive instead which will be enough for OS and applications.. May get a higher capacity drive for taking backups and storing static data such as music, video, movies, photos etc..etc.. As for CPU and motherboard, i'd recommend pairing up an AMD Phenom II X6 1055T along with a MSI 890FX-GD70 and 4GB (2 x 2GB) of good DDR3 RAM..
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July 31, 2010 5:34:42 AM

Alright. I like your components so far. I would never boot off the WD green though. too slow. Personally, I would get a WD Black 640GB for your boot drive. You can keep your games on it too for faster loading times.
SSDs are still too overpriced. That said, I have a 60GB Vertex 2 because I had the money for it and wanted to check it out. It impresses me but not to the point of $200 that it was before MIR.

The antec 900 is a great case, the antec 300 is cheaper, nearly the same cooling but just not as fancy. up to you.

I'd get the phenom II 955 if I were you, ensure it is C3 stepping no C2. This box part number:
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AMD-Phenom%20II%20X4%...(HDZ955FBGMBOX).html

Runs a touch cooler and overclocks a touch better at the same price as the C2.

If you are interested in overclocking, I recommend researching online. Lots of google searches and experimentation. Just remember: stability testing is very important.

Have you looked into video cards yet?
After 4GB of ram (my recommendation) perhaps 6 because of video editing, and a motherboard you'll probably be down to $250-350.

With that you could look at various price ranges. My recommendations:
$150 - radeon 5750
$180 - radeon 5770
$200 - GTX 460
Personally, I find over $200 to be too much but you could look into a radeon 5850 or GTX470

I hope I helped. Feel free to ask any more specific questions or ask if you need clarification on anything ;) 
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July 31, 2010 6:30:16 AM

For your budget the V-Raptor and SSD are probably too much. (They'd be half your budget)

A 1055T processor is a great video editing processor. Since that seems to be your primary use, I would go with that over a quad core 955 because video editing is definitely benefited by as many cores/threads as possible (The Intel i7 980X destroys everything in video editing for this reason, but is also $1000). The 1055T will be able to easily get to 3.5 GHz and probably higher without any concern and will easily outperform the 955.

Without knowing what resolution your monitor is, it's hard to recommend a video card. The GTX 260 is a great card for the price and in the future, you can add a second and get nearly twice the performance if you need more.

It really depends on how light of a gamer you are. If you are not planning to try to play Crysis maxed on 6x monitors, you can probably get away with a $100 890GX based motherboard (like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...).

I'd aim for 8 GB of DDR3 RAM, but if your budget doesn't allow, it's OK to back off to 4GB.

To simplify the above, If you are more into video editing then invest more into the CPU. If you are more into gaming, invest more of your budget into the graphics card.
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July 31, 2010 6:39:38 AM

Ermmm... The WD Black drives in my opinion are overpriced. Because at the price of that 640gb drive you recommended enzo, you could get a 1tb Samsung F3 and there are faster with a larger cache too! :p  As for VGA card, i agree with the enzo, exept at 200$ for the GTX 260, isn't the 460 better :p  probably a mistype. but for your sitution the 5770 or 5750 is good enough, unless you plan on doing some gaming then 5770. Also for ram, 4gbs is enough 8 i think is a lot, WAY to much in fact. 955 is a better deal then the 965, because at the point of the 965 you might as well go for the 1055T So if you do go for one. the 955 IMO is the better way to go. and the best budget board i know is the 870 Asrock Extreme3, or you could go with the 890GX series which would be the next step up. But if think the 870 is bad because it doesn't offer full 16x/16x for crossfire, don't 8x/8x is practically the same, scaling has been done and 8x/8x is only 2% difference from full 16x/16x :p  Also, since your on a budget the best way to go is the 870 Asrock Extreme3 :D 
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July 31, 2010 12:53:47 PM

aznshinobi said:
Ermmm... The WD Black drives in my opinion are overpriced. Because at the price of that 640gb drive you recommended enzo, you could get a 1tb Samsung F3 and there are faster with a larger cache too! :p 


Yep. That's true. I keep forgetting about the F3s because they are so hard to find up here in Canada.

aznshinobi said:
exept at 200$ for the GTX 260, isn't the 460 better :p  probably a mistype.

Yeah it was. Corrected now to avoid confusion.


aznshinobi said:
955 is a better deal then the 965, because at the point of the 965 you might as well go for the 1055T So if you do go for one. the 955 IMO is the better way to go.

+1 to that.
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July 31, 2010 1:00:16 PM

beochie said:
thanks for the replys guys. I allready have the case/psu and the 2 TB drive I know it's slow thats why I was looking at the v-raptors/ssd as a boot drive etc. Thanks for maving me look at the 1055t's again now I'm looking at:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

and this v.raptor for boot temp storage/os:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I actually considered that first combo before. Just remember, if you ever go crossfire, you won't be able to fit in any more expansion cards on that board.
For the second one, you wouldn't want to go crossfire with higher end cards as it will only do 4x mode.

Both are good boards though and obviously there is no issue with either if you have no intention of using crossfire.

I'd still recommend against the WD velociraptor in your pricerange especially since this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
is only $40 more if capacity is not a problem.

That said, you will notice a speed difference with the velociraptor.
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July 31, 2010 4:00:57 PM

my only recommendation is to have two separate hard drives You only need a small one for your operating system. Then get a 1.5 or 2TB secondary drive for the footage you edit which can quickly add up.
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July 31, 2010 4:38:55 PM

I actually have to disagree Enzo, although it is a great SSD and SSDs are great, The Mushkin Callisto Deluxe 60gb :D  Is a much better deal :p  Currently at least with its discount on Newegg. http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1307/6/ That's a review it stands its ground pretty close to the Vertex 2 100gb vers. that says something, and it is cheaper than the vertex 2 on newegg with 10gbs more space. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OR You can keep your space and get two Samsung F3 1tbs and put them in RAID 0
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July 31, 2010 5:10:17 PM

aznshinobi said:
I actually have to disagree Enzo, although it is a great SSD and SSDs are great, The Mushkin Callisto Deluxe 60gb :D  Is a much better deal :p  Currently at least with its discount on Newegg. http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1307/6/ That's a review it stands its ground pretty close to the Vertex 2 100gb vers. that says something, and it is cheaper than the vertex 2 on newegg with 10gbs more space. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Yep. Pretty much any sandforce controller based SSD will perform the same. One thing I noticed about the mushkin 60GB callisto was that there was no "warranty void if removed" sticker. All they had was proprietary screws. So if you want to take apart your drive for whatever reason :heink:  , the callisto is the way to go. I got the Vertex 2 because I found it on a really good deal. The sandforce controller also scales really well performance/ capacity wise. The old ones were slow for low capacity but anything sandforce will have the same perfomance at 480GB as at 60GB.
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August 1, 2010 4:27:49 AM

XD I'm glad you agree with me :D  Enzo. They do both use the Sandforce controller :p  But sadly, OCZ made sure Sandforce would only give OCZ the custom firmware and Mushkin gets there legit firmware not custom. :(  Stupid OCZ contract.
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