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a b 4 Gaming
May 29, 2010 6:56:16 AM

Hi! It is finally time for a new rig. My current one was built to play HL2... before it was released, so its way past time for an upgrade!

I'm going to build almost totally from scratch, using only my current display (26in, 1920x1200 native res), speakers, and sound card - granted the new mobo i get has a legacy pci port.

It will be primarily for gaming. Secondary uses may or may not include surfing the web, watching movies, playing music and the occasional 3d mapping/level design. I do like lots of windows open at once :) 

I trust newegg and prefer to buy parts online from them. I may also run into my local Fry's for some stuff... its easier to return if something is DOA that way. I'm in the US.

My budget is between $1000 and $1500. I'm trying to stay top-end, without going crazy.

I'd like to have it all bought and put together in no more than two weeks. Preferably DONE next week as I have lots of time off to tinker before going back to work on the 7th.

So what do i need? well, almost everything! Luckily I have already picked out a case, CPU, and mouse:

Antec nine hundred two
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I chose this because it looks roomy and stylish and has tons of fans (including that massive top exhaust!) with variable speeds.

Phenom II X4 965
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I would get the X6, but this is faster (3.4ghz as opposed to 3.2) and the extra two cores wont help my gaming much (from what i've read anyway). Probably wont overclock, but who knows?

Logitech G500
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I like the look of this. I use an ancient MX510 (I got it when they were brand new, that's how old this thing is!) and this seems to be the gaming evolution of it.


Now that you know where i'm starting, here is where i want to go:

Video: I want a Geforce GTX 480. It will not be in SLI. But i dont know what brand! I would PREFER to go with BFG as i have had good luck with them in the past, but they dont seem to have a 480 out on the market yet. I am not considering an ATI card, as i have had nothing but bad experiences with them.

Motherboard: No idea. Must be an AM3 socket to fit the X4 965 - other than that i dont know. What is standard nowadays for slot configurations? And ram configurations? A PCI slot for my sound card is a plus so i wont have to buy a new one. (do they still come with old PCI?) What is standard form factor nowadays?

RAM: I'm thinking 4 to 6GB. What kind? i dunno. Is 4GB enough? Can I get away with more than 6G and not pay an arm & a leg?

HDD: 1TB or 1.5TB. 7200RPM. Just need to know what brand. I used to love seagates, but i have read their 1TB+ drives are not great. What is recommended? (note: I would go with a SSD for OS installation if it wasnt so damn expensive! I will upgrade that when prices drop. For now, a single partitioned HDD will work.)

DVD drive: These are backwards compatible with all CD's right? I dont need anything special. Wont get used much.

Keyboard: I would like volume controls and a standard layout. Black. Anything noteworthy in this area?

Power supply: I dont know where to start here. What wattage do I need? What brands are good? More importantly, what brands should I stay away from? Any cool features I should keep my eye out for? I dont want to overload my PSU so I want something adequate for my CPU and GPU and all the other goodies without overheating.

OS: I'm going with Windows 7 Pro 64. Will the OEM version work just as well as full? It will be a clean install. What is the difference between full retail and OEM anyway??


I think that about covers it. Everything must mesh together well. I dont want any bottlenecks when gaming. If you have any suggestions, please post!

Thanks for looking!

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Anonymous
a b 4 Gaming
May 30, 2010 8:10:20 AM

Final list, please critique!

Case: COOLER MASTER Storm Sniper $140
Bought this locally after inspecting several, including the CM HAF 932, CM 690, and Antec 900 2. It was more expensive but had more of the features I wanted.


Mouse: Logitech G500 $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104318


Keyboard: Logitech Illuminated Keyboard $67 (local)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


CPU & Motherboard Phenom II X6 1055T; GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H $320
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.382692
Sold in combo. Seems to get decent reviews.
I plan to overclock. I'll use the CM Hyper 212 Plus $30 (Bought locally)


Video: EVGA Geforce GTX 470 $352
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I was convinced to go with the F3 after learning the WD black's advantages didnt really equal any performance boost.


Optical drive: LITE-ON Black DVD/CD writer $29
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Power supply: CORSAIR TX Series 950W $125
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


OS: Windows 7 64bit OEM $140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total costs after shipping/rebates: $1428. Yikes! Numbers sure do grow fast when you add them together! :eek:  Oh well I already bought the case and HSF so that's 170 down. Only 1258 to go! haha
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a b 4 Gaming
May 30, 2010 11:32:59 AM

I would get a HD 5870 and a 650-750W PSU - that's good enough for crossfire. And the 955 or 965.
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May 30, 2010 11:43:12 AM

-Get a 700w psu instead, especially if you're not going to SLI. 850 if you intend to.
-Agreed get a 955 not a 965. Alot of people think it's better because the number is higher but it's the samething. But if your primary use is gaming then the i5-750 is better then the 955/965.
-Get a 5870 instead of the fermi 480.
-That logitech keyboard is very nice, you'll love it. I love mine :) .
-I'll never understand what's so good about those G500 mice but I use an old razer mouse and it still works very well....

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May 30, 2010 12:31:02 PM

the g500 is a good quality mouse but boy that thing is ugly. I would never buy one myself. I have a sidewinder and I love it. Please people clarify why you would suggest a 5870?

A 470gtx will perform very close to a 5870 on high settings on 1900X1200 while costing far less.
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Anonymous
a b 4 Gaming
May 30, 2010 3:02:35 PM

Somebody_007 said:
solid build but 850watt will suffice for sli. CL7 ram would be better.
And I don't like that keyboard it isn't really for gamers how about this? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... OR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For the rest that cpu is pretty slow and six-core is useless for gaming. So IMO go i5 750 or 955be


CPU will be overclocked. To what? i dunno. Depends on what I can get away with once everything is all put together. Probably 3.4 - 3.8.

I had not seen the razor keyboards - they actually look pretty nice! They have so-so reviews on newegg though. Can anyone give personal experience here? I have personally felt the logitech illuminated keyboard and it is nice. Much better than I would have thought! They keystrokes feel great!

mosox said:
I would get a HD 5870 and a 650-750W PSU - that's good enough for crossfire. And the 955 or 965.


The reason I chose that PSU was because it came highly recommended. And at newegg I can get it for the same price as a 750 after all the discounts. I do not want an ATI card. I'm done dealing with ATI. I've been burned too many times. Nvidia on the other hand, has always been good to me :)  I'm supporting the company that I like!

Originally I was going to go with the 965. But the argument was made that for only a little more $ I could get the 1055T, easily overclock it to equal or greater speeds as the 965, and have the extra two cores for multitasking/3D modeling/level design. This seems like a better plan for me.

Somebody_007 said:
you might want to consider this 470 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I was looking at that 470 for a while, but came to the conclusion that for almost $50 more all you get is a different backplate. Not worth it IMO.
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May 30, 2010 3:09:13 PM

I know it may not seem like much but its apperently 7degrees cooler. If its true its a good buy.
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Anonymous
a b 4 Gaming
May 30, 2010 4:01:32 PM

I'm having second thoughts about the power supply. Not because the wattage, but because it's not modular. That's a LOT of cables to hide. I was looking at the Antec TPQ-850 850W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371009) which looks good on paper. It's around the same price after discounts and still has plenty of power. Pus it's modular. Thoughts?
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May 30, 2010 5:28:35 PM

Not all antec psu's fit in non-antec cases you'll have to check. And I don't have a razer keyboard myself, I have a sidewinder x6 and it's great.
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May 30, 2010 6:06:45 PM

he doesn't want an ati ^^
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Anonymous
a b 4 Gaming
May 30, 2010 6:28:29 PM

mosox said:
The 470 is hot and consumes a lot. A 750W PSU is fine even for crossfire:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...


is that ram better than this? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

They look the same except for the latency and timing. What about: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Will my motherboard support that timing?
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May 30, 2010 8:27:52 PM

the lower the latency AKA timing the better. So the last one you mentioned would be the fastest. And I think all motherboards support all timings.
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Anonymous
a b 4 Gaming
May 31, 2010 4:01:03 AM

Thank you all for your input!! Everything has been finalized and purchased - if I'm lucky I'll have my new system built and ready to go by next weekend!!

Final specs:


Case: COOLER MASTER Storm Sniper $140 (bought locally)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119194&cm_re=storm_sniper-_-11-119-194-_-Product


Mouse: Logitech G500 $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104318


Keyboard: Logitech Illuminated Keyboard $67 (local)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126043


CPU & Motherboard Phenom II X6 1055T; GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H $320
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.382692
Sold in combo. Seems to get decent reviews.
I plan to overclock. I'll use the CM Hyper 212 Plus $30 (Bought locally)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065&cm_re=212-_-35-103-065-_-Product


Video: EVGA Geforce GTX 470 $352
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130549


RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277&cm_re=ripjaws-_-20-231-277-_-Product


HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185


Optical drive: LITE-ON Black DVD/CD writer $29
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106335


Power supply: CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-650HX $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139012


OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754

Thanks again!


PS. if anyone has any games to recommend for me to break in the new system, please let me know!
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