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August 1, 2010 3:25:49 AM

I have a Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.8GHz and i'm pretty sure it's too old for Windows 7 and that's why it's overheating. It randomly freezes for about 30 seconds when too many things are going on but then it runs fine for a little while. Is this processor far too old for Windows 7 and what could I replace it with?.

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a c 207 à CPUs
August 1, 2010 3:47:18 AM

Did you change anything else prior to getting random freezers or was the only change installing windows 7?

Download HW monitor and post its temps if you are concerned it might be over heating, its not possible to diagnose overheating based on performance issues, its much easier to do it with hard numbers.
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August 1, 2010 4:53:08 AM

hunter315 said:
Did you change anything else prior to getting random freezers or was the only change installing windows 7?

Download HW monitor and post its temps if you are concerned it might be over heating, its not possible to diagnose overheating based on performance issues, its much easier to do it with hard numbers.


Well when I put the coolint on it runs a lot better so i'm pretty sure it's the processor overheating but the coolint wares off so it goes back to normal.
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a c 207 à CPUs
August 1, 2010 4:54:32 AM

What coolant are you putting on your CPU? Why are you putting coolant on your CPU? I have never heard of his being done before.
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August 1, 2010 4:55:33 AM

It says my gpu core is 111 Farenheit and my assembly and air flow are 139 F
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August 1, 2010 4:56:42 AM

lewbaseball07 said:
artic silver ftw

Are you talking about coolint? I used formula5 and it runs fine until it wears off.
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August 1, 2010 4:57:45 AM

hunter315 said:
What coolant are you putting on your CPU? Why are you putting coolant on your CPU? I have never heard of his being done before.


I'm putting coolint onto my CPU yes and are those temperatures overheating? I have the case open and a fan blowing on the computer too.
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a c 207 à CPUs
August 1, 2010 4:59:51 AM

Arctic silver is thermal paste, it is applied between the CPU and the heatsink to improve heat transfer. Im unsure of what silver bullet is, but you really shouldnt be using anything to cool your CPU that "wears off".
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August 1, 2010 5:01:18 AM

I had the wrong name it's called formula 5 it's a thermal silver compound and it says it's for cpu cooling. And are those temperatures overheating? Also I put it on the top of my processor like it said to do and is the heat sink underneath the processor?
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a c 207 à CPUs
August 1, 2010 5:05:16 AM

You didnt post the temps for your CPU cores which are the ones we are concerned with right now, post them in celsius if you can, saves me the conversion.

Are you using this stuff? Took some googling to find out it was made by antec.
http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=MTA1Mg==

If so how are you applying it? A pea sized drop in the middle and then using the heatsink to smush it out?
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August 1, 2010 5:06:44 AM

The assembly and Air flow are both at 60 Celsius and the GPU core is 44 Celsius.
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August 1, 2010 5:08:24 AM

Yes that's what i'm using. The directions said to put a pea sized drop on the processor then smear it evenly on the processor with a plastic bag it said nothing about the heat sink. Does the heat sink come in on top of the processor or is it underneath? If it comes on top do I apply it to the processor and the Heat sink?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5O_I8XOGOo is exactly how I did it but it reverts back to overheating after a few days.
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a c 207 à CPUs
August 1, 2010 5:10:47 AM

Thats pretty hot for idle, those temps definitely need to come down.

Judging by your posts i feel that there is a bit of a problem understanding how the heatsink is supposed to be applied. See this guide to confirm that you are installing your heatsink properly. Everytime you remove your heatsink you need to clean the thermal grease off the CPU and heatsink with a soft cloth and some rubbing alcohol, and then apply more before reattaching the heatsink.
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2231&p...

The heatsink would be a massive chunk of metal that used to be placed on top of the processor, it will have lots of little fins and a fan attached, you need that, if you dont have that OF COURSE your CPU is going to overheat, there is no way for it to get rid of the extra heat.
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August 1, 2010 5:13:09 AM

k i'll try to see if there is any grease. Yeah I know what the heat sink is now and I have a fan blowing directly into the heat sink from the front side of my computer. I bought the fan recently but it really hasn't helped and is it possible that I have the fan backwards? Is cool air supposed to come in from the back not the front?
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August 1, 2010 5:18:50 AM

I have the fan blowing cool air into the Heat Sink but should I have it sucking it out if Cool air is coming in from the back?
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a c 207 à CPUs
August 1, 2010 5:22:26 AM

Do you have a fan on the heatsink itself? A fan mounted on the heatsink itself does more than a case fan blowing air at the heatsink as you need to get air moving between the fins.

In general airflow should be from the bottom front to the top rear.
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a b à CPUs
August 1, 2010 5:41:51 AM

If the fan is on the back, you should probably have it blowing air out of the case.

What do you mean when your coolant wears off? Anything used to cool the processor shouldn't wear off for several years(thermal grease between the heatsink and processor), unless you have something different then air cooling. If you are putting something on the heatsink, that could damage something.

No, the Pentium D isn't too old to run Windows 7, it should be running is just fine. In fact, a 2ghz single core processor could do it slowly.

Is the heatsink on the processor tight enough? It could be off it a little bit. That could be causing the processor to overheat, then make it throttle down, thus causing lag issues like that.
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August 1, 2010 5:56:48 AM

I just removed the grease and turned the fan around and it's 12 Celsius cooler, going to add the Thermal Compound to it now and see if it cools it off a lot.
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a b à CPUs
August 1, 2010 6:07:09 AM

Are you sure you have a heatsink on the processor? Removing the grease shouldn't help improve the temps unless the processor didn't have a heatsink on it. A heatsink would probably be big enough so that you would have a hard time fitting it in your hand.
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August 1, 2010 6:10:48 AM

I'm positive I have a heatsink on it and I just added the thermal compound on the CPU. My Temps are 50 Celsius for Air flow and assembly, and 41 Celsius for GPU Core, are these still high? also what else could be causing these high temps in the computer and could it have anything to do with my Hard Drive?
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August 1, 2010 6:12:03 AM

My Heatsink has never had a fan inside it but has always had one right next to it but that fan Stopped working so I replaced it and my Comp has been randomly freezing since I installed Windows 7, Do you want me to post my dxdiag?
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a c 207 à CPUs
August 1, 2010 6:14:00 AM

Im thinking a picture of the inside of your case and a screen shot of HW monitor will likely be the most helpful.
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August 1, 2010 6:14:11 AM

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August 1, 2010 6:19:03 AM

hunter315 said:
Im thinking a picture of the inside of your case and a screen shot of HW monitor will likely be the most helpful.


How can I give you a screenshot and I wish I could give you a picture but I don't have a digital camera :/ .
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August 1, 2010 6:35:44 AM

Any suggestions? :( 
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a b à CPUs
August 1, 2010 6:48:19 AM

Actually, you might be looking at the wrong temp. There should be a temp that's described as core #0 and core #1 and that would be your CPU core temps. The assembly temps look like they're for the hard drives.
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August 1, 2010 6:50:52 AM

Are there any programs I can use to find the temp? Also could this be windows 7 and not the processor since i've tried several times at fixing it and it's been doing it ever since i've gotten windows 7. I get random Not Responding frequently on programs and when I play SC2/WoW it freezes for about 30-60 seconds and repeats the same sound until it unfreezes. Would this give a clue to what is wrong?
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a b à CPUs
August 1, 2010 6:58:49 AM

Realtemp is a good CPU temp monitor, you can download it at Guru3d.com.

That freezing actually happens to me sometimes...for me, it actually seems to be the onboard ethernet connectors, because I update the drivers for them and the problem seemed to be fixxed some. This might be different for you, since you also get those random crashes.
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August 1, 2010 3:03:59 PM

lewbaseball07 said:
artic silver ftw

Water cooling. beat that.
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