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Okay my uncle asked me to build him because his old celeron 3.0ghz, 1GB ram and 40GB hard drive run xp pro is 'too slow'. :kaola:  can't even run msn in the background without it freezing lol
He's comparing it to my I5 with 4GB ram and 1TB samsung F3 running windows 7. :na: 
I build mine for gaming so i'm not sure about the requirements for rendering architectural models or anything.

He is still learning to how to use computers so he says that he doesn't want to play games on it but i think he might change his mind when he becomes more proficient using computers in general. The modeling is just a hobby and he says he wants to design his own house with it. If anyone knows any free architectural modeling software that would be nice too.

My main concern is would the i3 on-board graphics be enough for his needs (3D modeling and the Sims 3) or would it be better to get a amd cpu + discrete graphics card

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: November/December 2010

BUDGET RANGE: around $1000 NZ dollars before rebates

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: New Zealand

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: running architectural modeling software/ the sims 3/video calling/video conversion/video streaming/internet browsing

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Playtech.co.nz
PARTS PREFERENCES: ASUS motherboard, corsair PSU

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe but i will be using stock heatsink/fan

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1366 x 768

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I would like a as possible quiet PC, Last atleast 3years with upgrade ability and low power consumption would be nice too


Here is the build i came up with:

Athlon II X3 435 2.9Ghz 1.5MB AM3 -play tech doesn't have any x3 cpus


Asus M4A785T-M AMD 785G Socket AM3 DVI/HDMI DDR3 RAID Micro ATX AMD Motherboard


G.SKILL Ripjaws 4GB kit (2GB x 2) DDR3-1333 (PC-10666) CL8-8-8-21 MEMORY F3-10666CL8D-4GBRM


Antec Three Hundred Gaming ATX Case Black


Corsair VX-550 ATX 550W 120mm Power Supply


Samsung SH-S223 Black 22X SATA Dual Layer Super WriteMaster SpeedPlus DVDRW OEM


Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB SATA II 7200RPM 32MB OEM

XFX HD-465X-ZDF2 Radeon HD 4650 1GB 128-bit DDR2 PCI-Ex16 HDCP Ready CrossFire


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When compared to the H55 using the Core i5 661 processor, the AMD 780G delivered comparable performance. The synthetic FurMark test at 1024x768 saw the 780G deliver a maximum frame rate of 11fps, while the Graphics Media Accelerator HD of the Intel Core i5 661 processor produced a maximum of 10fps. Interestingly the Intel combo got stomped in the Maya test, delivering significantly less performance.
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i changed the cpu to an athlon II X3 with a cheaper mobo and now i can afford to add a gfx card.

now i was wondering if the radeon would be better than say a 9600gt since it's an ati chipset?

I'm not sure if that graphics card would still be around in December or if the prices would change, would a 9600gt be over kill for 1366 x 768 resolution?

And would this be able to handle video calling and 3D modeling at the same time?

Hmm ok strictly raw frames wise

HD 4670 < 9600GT
the former draw less power though

for 1366 X 768 i would try to hit a HD 5670 : low power draw yet very decent performance (1366 x 768, 1280 x 1024, 1440 x 900..up to 1680 x 1050 strictly no AA/AF)

batuchka said:
Hmm ok strictly raw frames wise

HD 4670 < 9600GT
the former draw less power though

for 1366 X 768 i would try to hit a HD 5670 : low power draw yet very decent performance (1366 x 768, 1280 x 1024, 1440 x 900..up to 1680 x 1050 strictly no AA/AF)
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I think you miss read it's a 4650 not 4670

i know that already but I wasn't sure about the amd chipset, you could say i'm an intel fangirl- I've only used Intel cpus.

I don't know if the hybrid crossfire thing on amd works well or not.

As for the the 5670 it's $199.00 here
while the 4650 is $89.00 i doubt it's worth double the price
but i could probably get a 9600GT second hand for $100 same price as a 4670

and the GT240 1GB model is $149.00 New here, the prices are weird

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Ya no reference to your previous post - just stating that i would try to hit a HD 5670 rather than 9600GT/HD 4650 ^^ If you exploring the 2nd hand market you could hope to land a 9800GT or even better a HD 4770 hehe Ditch hybrid crossfire if looking to game past low/med 1280 x 1024 really...

batuchka said:
Ya no reference to your previous post - just stating that i would try to hit a HD 5670 rather than 9600GT/HD 4650 ^^ If you exploring the 2nd hand market you could hope to land a 9800GT or even better a HD 4770 hehe Ditch hybrid crossfire if looking to game past low/med 1280 x 1024 really...


the 9800GT is around $200 - double the budget :??: 

i could skimp on the case but i hear the 9800GT's get hot

is the sims 3 really that graphically intensive?
I would have thought the CPU would be the bottleneck at this resolution.

Well the sims 3 would be the newest game, probably put sims 2 on there aswell.

You know this is for my uncle right not me. I already got my own gaming pc.

All i'm worried about is the modeling software.

No worries - many have run modelling software on mainstream desktop GPUs though at the professional level peeps use pro class FireGL/Quadro but those are way off the budget points discussed here ^^
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