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8800gt 512 to 4870 X2 2gb upgrade - worth it?

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April 27, 2010 7:59:52 AM

Hi all,

i currently run a 8800gt 512 Zotac amped and have the opportunity to get a 4870 X2 2gb for £100, is this a good upgrade? I am running Windows 7 and think it probably is but it is not a DX11 card which concerns me a little, it is a DX10.1 card. DX9 will still be supported strongly due to the popularity of XP and now that Windows 7 has been well received I feel that DX11 will get good support but DX10/10.1 may get neglected - is this fair comment?

I am not sure how games are coded in the sense that do they take advantage of all your card features or do developers just code with certain DirectX standards in mind i.e. code for DX9 and DX11 - forget DX10/10.1 as it is Vista's native DX level.

I may be talking complete nonsense so any comments are greatly appreciated
a b U Graphics card
April 27, 2010 9:05:40 AM

4870x2 2GB For £100 is a very nice deal!

But Before buying you need to check whether your system is up to the mark for such a card or not!!

Please mention your Complete system specs along with Power supply and monitor's native resolution :) 
a c 169 U Graphics card
April 27, 2010 9:12:13 AM

Hello and welcome to the forums :) 
Going from a 8800GT to a 4870X2 will give you a great boost in performance but you can get a 5870 which performs like a 4870X2 and is cooler and quieter and also supports newer techs like DX11,Eyefinity etc
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April 27, 2010 9:25:23 AM

Thanks guys,

Shubham,

my spec is q6600 o/c 3.6ghz
4gb Patriot memory
8800gt 512mb Zotac amped
1280 x 1024 native res (will be upgrading soon to widescreen 24" monitor)
Corsair 750watt p/s
Giga-byte EP35-DS4 rev 2.1

Maziar,
looked at the 5870 and it does look good but £300+ vs £100 - big difference

My main concern is the DX10/10.1 support by developers - will it be the Windows Milleneum of DirectX i.e. forgotten about or does DirectX work in such a way that all its functionality will be used if a developer codes a DirectX 11 game?

cheers
April 27, 2010 9:52:42 AM

hell yeah go for the 4870x2. if you feel like your games starting to go a bit slow that is. the radion card will easy boost your grapics up. i dont see eny point in going for the 5x series unless you going to get a 5x radeon serier for ower 2 years so you can use the dx11 some where round 2011-2012 i haw still yet to hear about a game that gonna use the tru dx11 power yet not sure that crysis eng 2 gonna take the full power of dx11.
April 27, 2010 10:17:29 AM

hell yeah. Id go for 5850 or 5870 though if I were you.
a c 169 U Graphics card
April 27, 2010 10:21:42 AM

chiller said:
Thanks guys,

Shubham,

my spec is q6600 o/c 3.6ghz
4gb Patriot memory
8800gt 512mb Zotac amped
1280 x 1024 native res (will be upgrading soon to widescreen 24" monitor)
Corsair 750watt p/s
Giga-byte EP35-DS4 rev 2.1

Maziar,
looked at the 5870 and it does look good but £300+ vs £100 - big difference

My main concern is the DX10/10.1 support by developers - will it be the Windows Milleneum of DirectX i.e. forgotten about or does DirectX work in such a way that all its functionality will be used if a developer codes a DirectX 11 game?

cheers

oops i first didn't see its £100,definitely get it then.
a c 169 U Graphics card
April 27, 2010 10:24:22 AM

okini55 said:
hell yeah. Id go for 5850 or 5870 though if I were you.

The OP has found a 4870X2 for £100,and a 4870X2 performs like a 5870 which is faster than a 5850.so there is no reason to get a 5850 or a 5870 when 4870X2 costs £100
a b U Graphics card
April 27, 2010 10:59:59 AM

chiller said:
Thanks guys,

Shubham,

my spec is q6600 o/c 3.6ghz
4gb Patriot memory
8800gt 512mb Zotac amped
1280 x 1024 native res (will be upgrading soon to widescreen 24" monitor)
Corsair 750watt p/s
Giga-byte EP35-DS4 rev 2.1




Well, with those specs you should surely get the 4870x2!! :D 

4870x2 for £100 is an awesome deal. I was asking about complete specs because that card is a beast!! You need a good PSU and it has to be paired with a nice processor so as to unleash its true power!!

Your RIG is good enough for that card and you'll have an awesome gaming experience. :sol: 



a b U Graphics card
April 27, 2010 11:01:56 AM

chiller said:


My main concern is the DX10/10.1 support by developers - will it be the Windows Milleneum of DirectX i.e. forgotten about or does DirectX work in such a way that all its functionality will be used if a developer codes a DirectX 11 game?

cheers



Don't worry, DX10/10.1 is going to hang around for a long time.

Games Still support DX 9.0c which is wayy older! i have a 5 year old Geforce card and that has DX9.0c!
April 27, 2010 12:49:36 PM

Thanks for all the responses guys, but I am not sure if my main point is coming across very well.

Let me put it another way - if Crysis 2 (for example) came out and its spec was listed as DirectX 9c and DirectX 11 with no mention of DirectX10/10.1 whatsoever would, by default, the game run with the extra functionality of DirectX10/10.1 or would it run as a DirectX9c game with this card?

I ask as I question whether it is worth shelling out for what could in effect be a very fast DirectX 9c card (as DX10 takeup has not been great) or should I wait and get a DirectX11 card.

I hope this makes sense :??: 
a b U Graphics card
April 27, 2010 1:39:00 PM

I'd get it anyway. Yes a few games will come out that will be either dx9 or 11 - aka Dirt2, and I'm sure some will support all 3. But I think it is a bit of a moot point if you're considering a 5870 as the other option as by the time DX11 titles are really out the tessellation will cripple a 5870 at fullHD+ resolutions anyway.
I'd get it as £100 is a great deal. By the time you have Bayed the 8800GT it will have cost you about £50, then by the time you want a Dx11 card you will probably be able to sell the X2 for what you bought it for anyway!
April 28, 2010 6:39:55 AM

MMclachlan said:
I'd get it anyway. Yes a few games will come out that will be either dx9 or 11 - aka Dirt2, and I'm sure some will support all 3. But I think it is a bit of a moot point if you're considering a 5870 as the other option as by the time DX11 titles are really out the tessellation will cripple a 5870 at fullHD+ resolutions anyway.
I'd get it as £100 is a great deal. By the time you have Bayed the 8800GT it will have cost you about £50, then by the time you want a Dx11 card you will probably be able to sell the X2 for what you bought it for anyway!


Thanks MMclachlan,

yeah I think you are probably right, .. just hope DX10 is not forgotten about - though the Dirt2 example does suggest it might happen. If it does it is a real kick in the teeth for all those DX10 card owners. :( 
a b U Graphics card
April 28, 2010 8:37:43 AM

chiller said:
Thanks MMclachlan,

yeah I think you are probably right, .. just hope DX10 is not forgotten about - though the Dirt2 example does suggest it might happen. If it does it is a real kick in the teeth for all those DX10 card owners. :( 


i don't think that will happen.
Currently, there should be more DX10 Gfx card owners than DX11 !
April 28, 2010 11:58:28 AM

I am almost sure you can run dx11 games with dx10 card , its just you will be missing some effects but dx11 is backward compatible with dx10.
Advantage is you will be running dx11 code with dx10 card (with dx11 features turned off) so its still better than dx9
April 28, 2010 1:00:50 PM

rawsteel said:
I am almost sure you can run dx11 games with dx10 card , its just you will be missing some effects but dx11 is backward compatible with dx10.
Advantage is you will be running dx11 code with dx10 card (with dx11 features turned off) so its still better than dx9

interesting comment Rawsteel, and this was the kind of information I was trying find out. You have said 'i am almost sure' is not a definitive yes in terms of backwards compatability, I would be very happy if this was the case. If this was the case then you would expect Dirt2 to run as a DX11 game with a Dx10 card with a few features missing? From what I have read and seen I am not convinced.
April 28, 2010 1:47:38 PM

dude this is a no-brainer... for 100 pounds u gotta take it
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