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June 1, 2010 8:26:46 AM

I've been going over this stuff for the past week and my head is about to explode... I appreciate any feedback! :) 

What I'm looking for in a new computer:

Corsiar's 64GB SSD (CSSD-V64GB2-BRKT) or Intel's 80GB SSD (SSDSA2MH080G2R5) for OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
COOL - will be working in a small, enclosed room
QUIET - I record music in this room as well
no LEDs or lights - sleeping in the same room
a Hard Disk Drive that is cool, quiet, and high performance
a monitor to fit 12 tables at Full Tilt with no overlap in a 4 across, 3 down fashion
the ability to use 2 (for sure) or (possibly) 3 monitors in the future
3x2GB or 4x2GB RAM
a CPU powerful enough to perform the following things simultaneously and instantly:

-Running 12 6-man tables on Full Tilt Poker (from SSD)
-Auto-Importing hands with PokerTracker3 (program on SSD writing to database on HDD)
-Running PT3's HUD on 12 tables (each player at each table has 400+ statistics in the HUD (program on SSD reading from the HDD)
-Surfing the internet (SSD)
-Downloading music with Amazon's downloader (SSD)
-Importing or burning a CD (program on SSD, writing to HDD)
-Playing Itunes (from HDD)
-Pasting a screenshot into Paint (on SSD)
-Viewing an Excel document with Open Office (from SSD)
-Backing up data onto an external hard drive (from HDD to an external HDD that I already own)
-Running TagScanner and tidying up my MP3 collection (from HDD)

I'll not be playing any state-of-the-art video games on this setup.
I own a keyboard, mouse, and external sound card that goes into a PCI slot (M-Audio Delta 44).
In order to keep heat output down, I will not be overclocking.

Budget for the whole package: $2500. I MUST purchase in the next few days - though I don't need it operational until late June.

I'm interested in the quietest and best performance cooling system... but if this means liquid cooling, then I don't see myself building the computer, but rather ordering custom from digitalstorm instead. I've never owned a liquid cooled PC and before I attempt to build one, I'd rather own one I purchased elsewhere first. Plus digitalstorm's H20: Stage 4: Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System seems solid (though I don't know how much noise it puts out).

As always, I appreciate any advice! :) 

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June 1, 2010 2:00:58 PM

Just so you know people are looking at this. I am leaving work and don't have time to post a build for you.

But to reassure you, I don't think what you're asking for is all that hard to build within your budget. If you don't have any responses by the time I get home, I'll put something together for you.

Good luck! Oh and welcome to Tom's!
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June 1, 2010 10:10:25 PM

What I'm strongly considering right now:

i7 860 CPU - lower energy usage, less heat, powerful, reliable quad-core
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

P7P55 or P7P55D-E Mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4x 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 1600 SDRAM?

A quiet, cool PSU?

Corsair CWCH50-1 CPU Liquid Cooler - seems simple to install
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/ite...

A small fast SSD for the OS and a few small programs?

WD Velociraptor WD6000HLHX 600GB HDD - I know it often gets sold out.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Windows 7 Home 64-Bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2x Anti-Static Wrist Straps
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Arctic Silve 5 Thermal Compound
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS VW266H 25.5" Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

An inexpensive GPU for the monitor at 1920x1200 resolution? (not for state-of-the art gaming... but perhaps 3-to-6-years-ago gaming. Though again, not a priority.)

Antec Sonata III or Antec P183 case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thanks for any input!
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June 2, 2010 4:36:10 AM

$ 240 Antec P183 Black ATX Mid Tower Case w/ Antec CP-850 850W CPX SLI Modular Active PFC PSU
More PSU than you need but nothing is quieter and it costs twice as much to match it electrically. PSU's run most efficient at 50% load, so you'll be right there and you definitely won't hear this thing at loads you'll pull. Case is super quiet also.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

$350 SSD OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD2-2VTX100G 2.5" 100GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive
you got the budget so why not get the fastest
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$80 Seagate 7200.12 .... quietest and coolest full performance drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$25 Any DVD Writer


1156 Based Build

$375 ASUS P7P55D-E Pro 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX MoBo w/ Intel Core i5-750 2.66GHz LGA 1156 Quad-Core
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

$110 2 x 2GB Corsair DDR3-1600 CAS 7 faster and cheaper than just about all CAS 7's
low profile won't cause Heat Sink interference
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$34 Scythe 2100 cpu COOLER http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Outperforms the H50 for $34

$6 OCZ Freeze
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

1366 based Build

$514 ASUS P6X58D-E LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX MoBo w/ Intel Core i7-930 2.8GHz LGA 1366 Quad-Core
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

$155 3 x 2GB Corsair DDR3-1600 CAS 7 faster and cheaper than just about all CAS 7's
low profile won't cause Heat Sink interference
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$101 Prolimatech Megahalems w/ twin PWM fans and IC Diamond TIM w/ PWM Cable splitter.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8807/cpu-pro-01/Proli...
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7038/thr-41/Innovatio...
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10026/fan-639/Scythe_...
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8418/cab-150/FrozenCP...

GFX Card - Pick one to fit your budget. At your stated budget, I'd suggest either the:
$350 ASUS ENGTX470/2DI/1280MD5 GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi)
$320 ASUS EAH5850 DIRECTCU/2DIS/1GD5 Radeon HD 5850

1156 Build - $1540 - $1570
1366 Build - $1785 - $1815

I know you said you wuldn't OC but in case you get outta ya hot room, I'd want the flexibility. You don't wanna rebuild entire system to change heat sinks. However if ya sure ya not going to do it, save $40 - $100. Both systems should overclock easily .... to 4.0 GHz w/ the Scythe and 4.2 GHz w/ the Mega. And also note that the HS are interchangeable....I just used a budget model to go in the less expensive 1156 system and the top performer in the 1366 system.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

The H50 will put ya CPU at about 5C hotter than the Mega and 4C hotter than the Scythe. As5 takes 200 hours to cure.

If you need peripherals:

$520 Color Accurate Monitor (IPS Panel) Dell U2410 ....watch for specials which bring it down to $520ish
http://www.dell.com/us/en/dfo/peripherals/monitor-dell-...

or

$275 Great HD Monitor (TN Panel) ASUS VW266H Black 25.5" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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June 3, 2010 1:40:34 AM

Awesome suggestion on the case and PSU! Thank you!
$ 240 Antec P183 Black ATX Mid Tower Case w/ Antec CP-850 850W CPX SLI Modular Active PFC PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Leaning heavily toward this combo:
$425 Intel i7-860 and ASUS P7P55D-E LGA 1156
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Will these work together and give the highest performance with the CPU and mobo?
$270 4 x 2GB Corsair DDR3-1600 CAS 7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Very impressed by this:
$101 Megahalems Heatsink, Two Scythe Slip Stream 120mm x 25mm PWM Fans, PMW Y Splitter Cable, and IC Thermal Compound
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8807/cpu-pro-01/Proli...
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10026/fan-639/Scythe_...
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8418/cab-150/FrozenCP...
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7038/thr-41/Innovatio...

$185 I'm gonna shoot for a 5770 GPU (based on my needs) and have narrowed it down to these choices. Any experience with / suggestions on any one in particular? Looking for cool and quiet and the ability to run dual monitors in the future. Gaming not a big priority.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...|14-127-490^14-127-490-TS,14-161-333^14-161-333-TS,14-102-858^14-102-858-TS,14-102-868^14-102-868-TS,14-131-327^14-131-327-TS

$100 Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$189 OCZ Vertex 2 50GB for OS (drive 1)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$80 One Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB HDD for automated back-up (drive 2). Anyone recommend a good auto back-up program? :) 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$280 or $160... WD VelociRaptor 600GB HDD or Two Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB HDDs in RAID 0... Forgive me for my limited knowledge here, but would that be possible to have 2 Barracudas (not containing the OS - drives 3 and 4) in RAID 0 with the rest of my setup? Would this give me increased performance nearing the Velociraptor? (Working with a large poker database with many small accesses, the Velociraptor has been highly recommended to me by the folks at PokerTracker). I'm a little in the dark on the whole subject. I would go with an SSD for the database, but the database is 300+ GB (and growing slowly) and an SSD isn't feasible. I appreciate any and all advice here! :) 

$22 ASUS DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$7 Two Wrist Straps
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$305 ASUS 25.5" Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Anything I'm missing? Thanks again!
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June 3, 2010 1:51:59 AM

You dont need 2 wrist straps. So that saves 3.50 :) 

Also you can find an X25-V 40 GB Intel SSD for only 115.00 on newegg.com to use as the OS drive. I personally use it as my OS drive to include the basics like Java and Adobe, Firefox etc and Im currently sitting at around 22 GB. Leaving 15 GB available to perserve seek time performance.
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June 3, 2010 9:34:02 AM

cmcghee358 said:
You dont need 2 wrist straps. So that saves 3.50 :) 


Haha. Yeah, what's funny is I wondered if someone was going to say that... "Dude, you don't need one on each wrist!" But I may have a buddy help me put it together, so I figure 2 is what I may need. :) 

The OCZ 50GB SDD for the OS seems so sick... I may just be splurging, but after I saw it, I was like "I gotta have it!" Another friend of mine has the Intel 40GB SSD and swears by it as well. Oh well, guilty pleasure I guess. (And not that much of a splurge, $74 extra, 10 extra GB, the fastest!, etc. I can live with that.)

Let me also add that the ASUS 25.5" monitor is "the one" for me (and no larger - though I like the Hans 28") as I have a slight space constriction on my desk.

My remaining questions are these:

1. Which of the GPUs should I get? (I figure any of the ones I listed were fine, and I'm just going to pick the one that "feels best" if it doesn't really matter.)

2. The database hard drive question: Can I set 2 Barracudas in RAID 0 for increased performance? (They are not the boot/OS drives or backup drives, they are drives 3 and 4 - used for holding a large database.) If yes, what else would I need? To what degree would this be better or worse than a single 600GB VelociRaptor? (provided I can get my hands on one...)

3. Will all this stuff I've picked out (with copious amounts of help from JackNaylorPE and the rest of the folks on this forum and site!) all work together?

4. Are there any other tools and/or supplies I should pick up for building my "first-time-in-a-very-long-time" computer? Connections, cables, etc?


Thank you all so much! :) 

@JackNaylorPE: your response was very crucial in helping me assemble this build. Thank you! Once I get these questions wrapped up, I can close the thread in style and give credit where credit is due. :) 
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June 3, 2010 9:43:53 AM

I personally don't see a need for a RAID 0 for a database. If it were me, I'd simply get a 7200 RPM 1 TB and use that. Make sure the 1 TB uses 500 GB platters like the Samsung Spinpoint F3, or the Seagate Baracuda 7200.12 (Make sure its .12, not the .11)
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June 6, 2010 10:16:42 PM

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