I just got the AMD Phenom II X4 965 Processor, is this proper speed?

[Zatheyll]

Just installed it, but the clockspeed is 798 MHz, is that what it is suppose to be? Should it be higher? On the box it said the speed is 3.4 GHz. (798 MHz = .8 GHz?)

 

[hunter315]

Its called cool'n'quiet, it lowers the clock speed and voltage to reduce power usage when the CPU isnt under load, if you do something to put a load on it like run prime95, it will kick up to full speed.

 

[Zatheyll]

Well, ever since I installed it my computer has been running very slow, is it because it is only at .8 GHz? Can I raise it permenantly?

 

[Martin 71]

3.4 ghz = 3400 mhz. You can turn off cool and quiet, but it'll bring your speed back up when it's necessary anyway.

 

[hunter315]

What are the other specs of your system? What motherboard do you have? If your board doesnt support the CPU it might only be able to run it at 800MHz.

To confirm that it is cool'n'quiet get CPU-Z and prime95, when you start prime95 watch CPU-Z and see if the clock speed jumps up to the appropriate level, it should be basically instantaneous.

 

[Martin 71]

if you have an am2 board, you'll need to get an am3 board. if you're looking for an am3 board, and you have ddr3 but don't wanna spend an extra 100 on ddr3 ram, then get the board in my description... the MSI 790XT-G45

 

[Zatheyll]

Dxdiag:

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System Information
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Time of this report: 8/4/2010, 11:53:49
Machine name: DAVID-PC
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.100226-1909)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: System Product Name
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor (4 CPUs), ~800MHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 4094MB RAM
Page File: 2445MB used, 5742MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: 120 DPI (125 percent)
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 9500 GT
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0640&SUBSYS_094319F1&REV_A1
Display Memory: 2796 MB
Dedicated Memory: 1005 MB
Shared Memory: 1791 MB
Current Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Dell SE198WFP(Analog)
Monitor Model: DELL SE198WFP
Monitor Id: DELF003
Native Mode: 1440 x 900(p) (59.887Hz)
Output Type: HD15
Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 8.17.0012.5721 (English)
Driver Version: 8.17.12.5721
DDI Version: 10
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 6/7/2010 17:58:00, 12338280 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4500-11CF-186C-4F291FC2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0640
SubSys ID: 0x094319F1
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Driver Strong Name: oem28.inf:NVIDIA_SetA_Devices.NTamd64.6.1:Section003:8.17.12.5721ci\ven_10de&dev_0640
Rank Of Driver: 00E62001

 

[hunter315]

DXDiag doesnt actually relay any useful information. What is your motherboard make and model?

 

[Zatheyll]

Sorry, ASUSTek M3N78 Pro

 

[COLGeek]

What you are seeing is normal for when Cool & Quiet is operating. Unless you put the system under load, it will operate at a lower speed to use less power, and to generate less heat and noise. To disable it, you will need to go into your BIOS and disable it.

Once you have done that, your system should operate at "full speed" all of the time. It will produce more heat and noise.

My recommendation is to leave Cool & Quiet enabled. The discussion of whether to go with an AM2 vs. an AM3 board has no basis with your question.

To see Cool % Quiet in action, fire up a game, minimize it, then open CPU-Z and look at the reported speed of the processor.

Good luck!

 

[hunter315]

Check and see if your board is revision 1.01G, if it is it will support it with a BIOS update, if not you are going to need a new board to support it. Your CPU support list can be found on the link below.
http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=DVvm9CU0G1bCC4gp

 

[Zatheyll]

On CPU-Z it says my BIOS is: Pheonix Version: ASUS M3N78 Pro ACPI BIOS Revision 0701.

This is what it said on ASUS's website for my Motherboard/Processor models:

M3N78 PRO

CPU: Phenom IIX4 965 (HDZ965FBK4DGM),3.4GHz,125W,rev.C3,SocketAM3,Quad-Core
Since PCB: 1.01G
Since BIOS: 1301
Note: Beta BIOS

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Can I update to the latest BIOS version 1402?

 

[hunter315]

You can try, it wont hurt anything, but if your board isnt revision 1.01G it still wont run the 965 properly.

 

[Zatheyll]

To make it revision 1.01G I would have to but a new motherboard? If I buy a new motherboard would it wipe all my documents, installed programs, etc? How do I check if my RAM would run with my motherboard? And how to I make sure my Processor/Video Card (GeForce 9500 GT PCIe slot)?

 

[hunter315]

If you dont have revision 1.01G, i suggest you back up your data onto another drive, and get a more modern AM2+ board if you dont want to spend an extra $100 to replace your memory.

Do you have a windows disk? When you change motherboard since it wont be the same chipset its unlikely that the windows installation will continue to work.

For $80 you can replace your board with the 785G one from Gigabyte, it will still support your memory, video card, and CPU, but you will need to reinstall windows.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128394

 

[Zatheyll]

I ran a game to see if the Clock speed would go up, World of Warcraft, but it is still 800 MHz, why hasn't it gone up to 3.4 GHz?

 

[Zatheyll]

I do have Window's 7 Installation Disk, so you can use the same disk to reinstall it and there wont be a activation error since I already installed it before? And how do I back up my data onto another drive? Is there a website that can show me how to do so?

 

[Martin 71]

I ran a game to see if the Clock speed would go up, World of Warcraft, but it is still 800 MHz, why hasn't it gone up to 3.4 GHz?

it appears that your motherboard isn't supporting your cpu... but it also appears you can flash the bios... go on the manufacturers site and look for bios updates for your mobo... then follow their directions EXACTLY! I updated my bios through a .exe once...

 

[aberchonbie]

you DON'T need a new motherboard. you can continue using your ddr2 ram with ur am2 motherboard..

Update the bios us EZ Flash or whatever it's called for ASUS. it should fix the problem. i'm surprised you even got it to boot with the 965.

 

[Tamz_msc]

it appears that your motherboard isn't supporting your motherboard...

Please correct that

 

[Tamz_msc]

I doubt that cool n' quiet lowers clock speed from 3.4 GHz to 798 MHz.

 

[COLGeek]

Tamz_msc would be incorrect. C&Q will definitely lower the operating speed to 800Mhz +/-. There is no doubt. I have it enabled on all of my systems and see this often.

Disabling the capability in the BIOS will bring the system back to full speed, all of the time, if that is indeed the problem with Zatheyll's system and what is desired.

So, in all of this discussion, has Zatheyll been successful in disabling C&Q in the BIOS (and updating the BIOS as well it seems)?

 

[Martin 71]

Please correct that

whoops :lol: maybe i shouldn't type so fast.

 

[Guest]

You can try, it wont hurt anything, but if your board isnt revision 1.01G it still wont run the 965 properly.

The M3N78 Pro WILL run the 965 (and other AM3 CPUs) with a BIOS of 1301 or newer. The Asus limitation that this board has, of locking step between the memory and CPU, unfortunately still applies. but it will run and overclock, even if you only use DDR2 RAM.

I have this working fine on my PC. I recommend that you disable cool N Quiet and control your fan characteristics from the BIOS, (enable, select performance, silent, etc.). CNQ only seemed a PITA to me.

 

[Guest]

I have had this same issue with my motherboard and chip. Bought a Asus M3N78 PO board, tried turning off cool n quite, ensure power settings increased speed of fan before slowing cpu, etc. My cpu still registered at 800 mhz. I run windows 7.

Checked my motherboard bios version, it was about a year old had 2 updates already. So I downloaded the latest update. Tried putting the rom file that I downloaded which was in the zip file in the root of c drive, but windows is protecting my root directory somehow and doesn't allow much to be done in the root with making or copying files to it. I copied the rom to a flash drive, loaded up my bios, installed the updated bios from flash drive, and bios and windows sees my 3.4ghz cpu and it runs the
way its suppose to now.

So regardless of your motherboard, update the bios drivers to latest version. Make sure you have the right motherboard, your bios will tell you what you have if you don't know or are unsure.

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