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$1500 Future Proofed Gaming Rig Help

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June 4, 2010 4:48:54 AM


APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE:

ASAP

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT:

MMO Gaming, Net and writing

PARTS NOT REQUIRED:

I currently have the following:

Case (Antec 900): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Video Card (285 GTX): http://www.bing.com/shopping/search?q=EVGA%20285%20GTX&... (click the specs bubble)
Soundcard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mouse, keyboard, monitor.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS:

Will be using a Newegg preferred account.

PARTS PREFERENCES:

AMD to help lower the price if the performance loss is either nil or slight vs that of Intel.

OVERCLOCKING:

Maybe, want to learn.

SLI OR CROSSFIRE:

I want the possibility to SLI but no need now

MONITOR RESOLUTION:

1600x1050 atm

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:

My PC crashed to the floor due to an accident and the only surviving parts are those above. My old RAM survived but meh time to go to DDR3. My only concern with this PC is that it be able to currently handle Vanguard and BFBC2 as best as possible and also be able to eat up Star Wars Old Republic Online come next year preferrably with zero upgrades.

I would prefer to go with AMD this round simply because of the price diffrence, however if what I have asked for is not possible with AMD then Intel it must be. I went on NewEgg today and built what I think I need however I'm not sure if this build can accomplish what I am asking for, or if it can be concentrated for more bang for its buck.

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Hard Drive: 2x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CD-Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

My concerns other then gaming performance are if the Zalmann will fit on the Mobo/RAM combo, and well basically that is it. Just aslong as it can basically see me through the next 2 years or so and be able to chew up and spit out the three games I mentioned I'm golden. But if I can squeeze more power, performance or reliability in gaming and keep it under $1500 by all means.
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June 4, 2010 5:31:45 AM

1. 1680 X 1050 just the single GTX 285 will be more than enuff
2. Our very own forums' findings show that sweet spot for gaming is actually triple cores and remembering how long dual cores are fine for games we dun need X6 for gaming rigs ^^

3. 2 x V.Raptors sound pricey for the performance they offer and the storage size: why not a 640GB for storage and a super fast Sandforce based SSD for boot/OS drive ^^
OCZ Vertex 2 - Review
http://www.guru3d.com/article/ocz-vertex-2-ssd-review/1...
4. 890FX highest end/priciest mobo paired with an Nvidia GPU at your resolution as well does not sound too great hehe - Asrock 870 is still 8x/8x capable so as not to rule out CF options
5. Suggested h/w @ $649AR including ship
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June 4, 2010 6:32:43 AM

One Nothing is future proof !....... 2 Need a better Graphics card... like an 5850 or 5870
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June 4, 2010 6:22:40 PM

I generally don't recommend AMD based systems unless budget limits are down around $1,000 territory. AT $1200, I'd do 1156 based Intel and at $1500 a top end 1366 based system is more than feasible, a top end 1366 system is possible.

Goal here was to provide for a system capable of a 4.0 - 4.2 GHz Overclock w/ little effort and provide enough oomph for adding a 2nd card in SLI. Case provides stellar cooling, PSU can handle all but twin 480's / 5970's and everything else is top shelf.

You could use the old case, but budget allows for an improvement there and not sure if the 900 will fit a nice big CPU cooler.

$150 Antec 1200 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$120 Antec CP-850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Dang .... if not in a hurry, newegg usually has a combo on the two above for $220 - $240

Alternate ($60 more) would be:

$ 140 HAF 932 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$ 190 HX850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$514 ASUS P6X58D-E w/ Intel i7-930 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

$155 3 x 2GB Corsair DDR3-1600 CAS 7 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$80 Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Check out the performance charts and pick whatever 500 GB per platter drive performs best under your usage patterns. The 2 TB WD Black and XT from Seagate are good choice but at smaller capacities, you are limited to the Seagate 7200.12 or the Spinpoint F3. The 7200.12 excels in gaming, multimedia and pictures whereas the F3 wins at music and movie maker. See the comparisons here (copy past link in manually, link won't work in forum):

(http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-3.5-desktop-har...[2371]=on&prod[2770]=on)

Look at the tests that reflect your usage and choose accordingly.

$101 Prolimatech Megahalems w/ twin PWM fans and IC Diamond TIM w/ PWM Cable splitter.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8807/cpu-pro-01/Proli...
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7038/thr-41/Innovatio...
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10026/fan-639/Scythe_...
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8418/cab-150/FrozenCP...

$25 Any DVD Writer

$350 ASUS ENGTX470/2DI/1280MD5 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Hard to pick the choice here. If ya spend more money (+350), you could get a 5970 but twin 470's in SLI has much better minimum frame rates than the 5970 in DX11 games (1920 x 1200, hi settings) by about 23% (17% for avg. frame rates) .... could add the 2nd card come XMas time.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-470-2-3-way-s...
http://www.softsailor.com/news/22371-nvidia-geforce-gtx...

Another option would be to get a 5850 and add a 2nd at Xmas....will save you $50 per card ($14%) but will also drop min. frame rates by about 19%. Each card is well priced for it's performance in the market so hard to find fault with any of those choices. This list below which provides the cost in "dollars per frame" (avg of 9 benches in DX11, 1920 x 1200 @ hi settings) might help ya choose.

ATI 5850 8.89
nVidia 470 9.08
nVidi 480 10.01
ATI 5870 10.08
ATI 5970 11.51

The ATI cards fare better in DX10 so if that's where you'll be spending play time, I'd go that route.

Total $1,495

Either way, can keep your old card as a dedicated PhysX card. Again, your 285 can do your current resolution but again, your budget allows for improvements. If you just wanna keep the 285, can delay a GFX card upgrade and grab a SSD.

$235 Intel G2 80 GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Reusing the case not upgrading the GFX card would save $500. If ya grab that SSD, you still have $265 to spend or can get bigger / better SSD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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