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August 6, 2010 7:33:01 PM

Hello,
can anyone help? noy sure how i go about this and choosing right processor. what do i need to check? thanks
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August 6, 2010 7:38:19 PM

Lets figure out what motherboard you're using.
List the make and model of the computer.

Or you can run CPU-Z and get us the info off the Mainboard tab.
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August 6, 2010 7:41:08 PM

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August 6, 2010 8:07:17 PM

thanks for quick reply.

is this the info you need?

Property Value
North Bridge ATI Xpress 200 (RS480) Revision 10
South Bridge ATI SB400 Revision 10

CPU AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3700+
Cpu Socket Socket 939

System Slots 2 PCI, 1 AGP

Memory Summary
Maximum Capacity 2048 MBytes
Maximum Memory Module Size 4096 MBytes
Memory Slots 4
Error Correction None

Warning! Accuracy of DMI data cannot be guaranteed

Property Value
MPAC1
Memory Summary
Maximum Capacity 2048 MBytes
Maximum Memory Module Size 4096 MBytes
Memory Slots 4
Error Correction None
DRAM Frequency 200.0 MHz
Memory Timings 3-3-3-8 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
Device Locator Slot 1
Manufacturer Kingston
Part Number K
Serial Number 4328A8C7
Capacity 1024 MBytes
Memory Type DDR (PC3200)
Speed 200 MHz
Supported Frequencies 133.3 MHz, 166.7 MHz, 200.0 MHz
Memory Timings 2-2-2-6-0 at 133.3 MHz, at 2.5 volts (CL-RCD-RP-RAS-RC)
Memory Timings 2-3-3-7-0 at 166.7 MHz, at 2.5 volts (CL-RCD-RP-RAS-RC)
Memory Timings 3-3-3-8-0 at 200.0 MHz, at 2.5 volts (CL-RCD-RP-RAS-RC)
Data Width 64 bits
Manufacturing Date 2005, Week 3
EPP SPD Support No
XMP SPD Support No
Device Locator Slot 2
Capacity 1024 MBytes
Memory Type DDR (PC3200)
Speed 200 MHz
Supported Frequencies 166.7 MHz, 200.0 MHz
Memory Timings 2-3-3-7-0 at 166.7 MHz, at 2.5 volts (CL-RCD-RP-RAS-RC)
Memory Timings 3-3-3-8-0 at 200.0 MHz, at 2.5 volts (CL-RCD-RP-RAS-RC)
Data Width 64 bits
EPP SPD Support No
XMP SPD Support No


Property Value
Manufacturer AOpen
Version
Serial Number 12 4
Machine Type AT/AT COMPATIBLE
Infrared (IR) Supported No
DMI System UUID 00000000-00000000-00000000-00000001
UUID 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000001

Disk Space Disk C: 27 GB Available, 233 GB Total, 27 GB Free

Physical Memory 1791 MB Total, 119 MB Free
Memory Load 93%

Virtual Memory 3429 MB Total, 1041 MB Free

PageFile Name C:\pagefile.sys
PageFile Size 1790 MB
In use 835 MB
Max used 960 MB
Registry Size 11 MB (current), 120 MB (maximum)

Profile GUID {8e106f40-4103-11da-a192-806d6172696f}

The system clock interval 15 ms

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August 6, 2010 8:51:47 PM

Sorry - not enough motherboard information.

Make and model of the computer?
August 6, 2010 9:02:12 PM

AOpen xc cube amd athlon 64 processor 3700+
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August 6, 2010 9:08:56 PM

Can you get CPU-Z from the link above and run that info as well? See if you can get more motherboard details from that program.

There should be a model number that goes with XC Cube; like XC Cube EZ65 or XC CUBE Model EZ482
August 6, 2010 9:20:43 PM

tried running it but it only had one option which wasn't mine...
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August 6, 2010 9:22:08 PM

List what ever option was on the Mainboard tab in the motherboard section.
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August 6, 2010 9:33:16 PM

You could probably upgrade to an X2 CPU, but it's not really worth it. You're much better off with a cheap newer RAM/CPU/Motherboard combo.
August 6, 2010 9:35:09 PM

AOpen Model Name: AWRDACPI
identifying No 12 4
Type X86-based PC
August 6, 2010 9:46:02 PM

yes it does look like that but what variation i'm not sure
August 6, 2010 9:48:20 PM

any use?

Property Value
BIOS Vendor Phoenix/Award Technologies, LTD
Serial Number 12
BIOS Version 6.00 PG
Firmware Version 111.101
BIOS Date 07/13/2005
BIOS Size 512 KB
BIOS Starting Segment E000h
DMI Version 2.3
Characteristics - supports ISA
- supports PCI
- supports Plug-and-Play
- supports APM
- upgradeable (Flash) BIOS
- allows BIOS shadowing
- supports booting from CD-ROM
- supports selectable boot
- BIOS ROM is socketed
- supports Enhanced Disk Drive specification
- supports INT 13 5.25-inch/360K floppy services
- supports INT 13 5.25-inch/1.2M floppy services
- supports INT 13 3.5-inch/720K floppy services
- supports INT 13 3.5-inch/2.88M floppy services
- supports INT 05 print-screen
- supports INT 09 and 8042 keyboard services
- supports INT 14 serial services
- supports INT 17 printer services
- supports INT 10 CGA/Mono video services
- supports ACPI
- supports legacy USB
- supports AGP
- supports booting from LS-120
- supports booting from ATAPI ZIP drive
- BIOS Boot Specification supported
August 6, 2010 10:04:15 PM

just opened it up. think it's the EZ482
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August 7, 2010 12:38:33 AM

Your best bet is a used Athlon X2 from ebay, make sure it's socket 939 as they were also available on socket AM2 and those won't work in your board. I wouldn't advise spending much, anything new will perform much better.
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August 7, 2010 4:57:38 AM

Yea unless you can get an x2 for cheap, you would be better off just starting over with new motherboard, cpu, and ram. If budget is tight and you have a microcenter nearby, I recommend going there and taking advantage of one of their AMD specials.
August 7, 2010 9:10:20 AM


when you say don't spend much on an Athlon 64 x2 4800+ 2.4GHz (Toledo) socket 939, what are we talking?
and if i were to change the lot, do you mean the motherboard and processor and therefore the memory?
is microcenter the name of the shop? thanks
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August 7, 2010 9:30:44 AM

Well, microcenter is really only good locally, if you don't live close to one. Don't bother. What would your budget be for the total upgrade? Because the socket is pretty old. You might as well build a new comp or at least change the mobo/ram/cpu, perhaps the PSU. A good cheap CPU is the Sempron 140 IF you unlock it.

Unlocking Guide: http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/535501-amd-phenom-ii-...

if you read the guide you'll find out that it's really not 100% unlockable. But the cpu itself is only 37$ on newegg. The mobo's not so cheap :p  or least it depends. Otherwise you could pay like 38$ more and get a sure Athlon II X3 440 which is a great budget cpu.
August 7, 2010 10:24:01 AM

have found AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+,SKT 939,Toledo Core, 2 x 2.2 Ghz for £53 on ebay. would this be ok?
August 7, 2010 12:15:33 PM

thanks for this. do you think this is the best way forward in terms of price? will it matter if i can't increase the memory beyond the 2gb it already has? what would it cost to change motherboard, processor and memory? would it still be using a 939 socket?
sorry for all Qs but new to all this and have come late into computing.....
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August 7, 2010 1:18:21 PM

2GB of RAM is plenty if you're still using WinXP. Using 2GB with Vista or Win7 might not be ideal but you can get along OK for most things.
It's a tough call if spending ~£60 on a X2 4600+/X2 4800+ is the best way forward but its about the best you can for that system.
That £60 on a X2 4600+/X2 4800+ is getting you a used CPU.
Compare that to a new Athlon II X3 435 2.9Ghz triple core CPU for £64 including a CPU cooler

It wouldn't make sense to do upgrades and keep the socket 939 motherboards and CPUs. There are much better values around.
With that strange interior arrangement on the Aopen XC CUBE I couldn't begin to tell you how to upgrade that MB. You may be locked into using Aopen parts because of the SFF.

AOpen XC Cube EZ482 - SFF Review

August 7, 2010 3:25:49 PM


thanks for that. have a found a maplins locally so may pop in there with cube to see what they can advise. what do you think a complete upgrade would cost? would i see a significant improvement in running if i went for X2 4600+/X2 4800+??
August 7, 2010 3:28:10 PM

any good if i don't change everything? AMD Athlon 64 FX-53 Socket 939 2.4ghz
August 7, 2010 4:40:43 PM

AMD Athlon 64 FX-55 Processor, 2.6GHZ??

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August 7, 2010 4:53:19 PM

Won't hurt to run over to that Maplins and see what they suggest.

FX-53 and FX-55 are single core CPUs. Going from 2.2Ghz to 2.6Ghz isn't that much of an upgrade.
Going to the X2 4800+ gets you a 2nd core to share the workload. It won't seem a whole lot faster but it will run stronger.

Passmark CPU Benchmark scores:
Athlon 64 3700+ = 592
Athlon 64 FX-53 = 650
Athlon 64 FX-55 = 678
Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4600+ = 1264
Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4800+ = 1319
Phenom II X2 555 = 1943
Athlon II X3 435 = 2551
Athlon II X4 635 = 3337
Phenom II X4 955 = 3935
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