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June 6, 2010 2:26:33 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: within a month

BUDGET RANGE: Up to $1500, but I am looking for the best "value" for the dollar

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Store Large video files, Dreameaver, Illustrator, Photoshop, In Design, Burn DVD's, Play games like Flight Sim

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Monitor

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA

PARTS PREFERENCES: N/A

OVERCLOCKING: No SLI OR CROSSFIRE: ??

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1200

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: None
June 6, 2010 4:03:07 AM

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor [STOCK COOLER, NO OC] @ $180
Free HDMI cable w/ purchase, ends 6/30 ... 4x Winner of Customer Choice Award
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock 890FX DELUXE3 AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
@ $155
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM .. 1x Winner of Customer Choice Award
@ $115
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This is an updated GTS 250 ... nVidia+OpenGL 3.2 = CS5/Photoshop
ZOTAC ZT-20109-10P GeForce GTS 250 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card [SUPPORTS OpenGL 3.2 .. IMPORTANT ]
Special weekend savings, whiles supplies last @ $120 (A steal)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

BOOT/APPS DRIVE
Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5" 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) .. Rated "THE BEST SSD" by DRAMeXchange @ $230
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CONTENT DRIVE :
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive .. 2x Winner of Customer Choice Award @ $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS Black 24X 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
3x Winner of Customer Choice Award @ $23
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Voted Best Power Supply Manufacturer by Custom PC 2009 @ $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
A rear-mounted 120mm TriCool fan as well as a top-mounted 140mm fan – both with 3-speed switch control – draw air through the case. The case even has mounted an additional pair of 120mm fans behind the front bezel to cool the HDD - @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SABRENT CRW-UINB 68-in-1 USB 2.0 Internal Card Reader w/ USB 2.0 Port supports SDHC @ $13
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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TOTAL IS LESS THAN $1076
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Search google on "H.O.T.A.S." (not newegg)

Saitek HOTAS Pro Flight X-65F control system
By Hilbert Hagedoorn, May 31, 2010 - 7:51 PM

http://www.guru3d.com/news/saitek-hotas-pro-flight-x65f...

Don't let the fan boyz talk you into Radeon !!

GET A FERMI 470 and a Corsair 650W PSU ... IF CAN AFFORD ... Add about $300

= Hope This Helps =

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June 7, 2010 12:18:18 PM

Thanks Alvin! Keep in mind that I am a novice at this...Is there a better video card (in terns of playing Flight Simulator)?
June 7, 2010 1:34:40 PM

YES !!!

The FERMI 470 @ $350 USD ... (the specs are awsome ... up your PSU to 650Watts)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

... REMEMBER ... That mobo (890FX) does not support SLI (two nVidia cards, bridged) ... BUT it IS possible to SLI with an AM3 "nForce" chipset mobo ... but that mobo does not support all the SATA3 and USB3 ports that the 890FX has ... or other 890 features.

Here is **THE ONLY** AM3 SLI mobo worth owning, IMO (no others are "good")
BUT ... I really would go with a single FERMI 470 GPU on a 890FX mobo w a 650Watt Corsair PSU ...

Just FYI, tho ...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

= Al =
June 7, 2010 1:42:02 PM

CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-650HX 650W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Voted Best Power Supply Manufacturer by Custom PC 2009 @ $120

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This PSU upgrade will add $40 to your total, making the 470 option cost ....

$ 2 7 0 MORE than the system I spec'd, above.

= Al = [ And, TOTALLY worth it, IMO, ... *IF* you can choke up the extra $$$ ]


June 7, 2010 2:08:00 PM

I believe that Flight Sim reacts unfavorably to multi-GPU setups. Is that correct?
June 7, 2010 2:11:22 PM

What do you think about?

Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor

GIGABYTE GA-P55-USB3 LGA 1156 Intel P55 USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

ASUS CuCore Series EAH5770 CuCore/2DI/1GD5 Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
June 7, 2010 2:49:21 PM

I think the i5-750 / GIGABYTE GA-P55-USB3 is an awesome value and powerful combo.

But for Photoshop and FSX I like Al's suggested ZOTAC GeForce GTS 250 a lot better.
Of course I like the GTX 465 (352 CUDA cores vs 128 for GTS 250) even more.

The GA P55-USB3 doesnt do SLI and even Crossfire is only done @ x8 x4 since the USB 3.0 'steals' some of the 2nd PCI-e x16 slot's PCI-e lanes. Not a factor for you unless you were counting on 2x 5770 in Crossfire in the future.
June 7, 2010 3:55:07 PM

Is there a better Intel Option that does SLI and Crossfire? Is it true that Flight Sim reacts unfavorably to multi-GPU setups?
June 7, 2010 4:08:29 PM

It is true that FSX does not scale up with a CF/SLI setup.
Some of the higher end P-55 motherboard do CF and SLI. For example: MSI P55-GD65
June 7, 2010 8:16:42 PM

This is very CPU-heavy useage, isn't it? For $1500, I think you'd be best off with Nehalem and NVIDIA. I'd steer away from Phenoms with this budget.
June 7, 2010 8:23:23 PM

The Phenoms are great if you can't afford the X58 ... It is the 1156 that is a pure DOG!

= Al =
June 7, 2010 8:29:05 PM

1156 processors perform better than phenoms. And with $1500, he definitely CAN afford X58.
June 7, 2010 8:37:53 PM

True .. But did you know that only the GPU sockets have PCIe 2.x lanes ?

1156 is a fairly dead architecture (no future) ... truncated socket and lobotomized Nehalem CPUs ...

... Oh, definately DO go X58/930 ... Gigabyte or ASUS.

= Al =
June 7, 2010 8:39:45 PM

Thanks for all the suggestions...I looked up the X58 on Newegg and many arrive damaged due to the manufacturer's packaging. Also No BIOS walk-thru guide in book or on the provided CD. This could pose a problem since this will be my first build. Are my concerns valid?
June 7, 2010 8:40:51 PM

Alvin Smith said:
... It is the 1156 that is a pure DOG!
Not for a single video card it's not.
And if you want 2 or 3 video cards on your 1156 you only need to choose the correct motherboards for that.
rest of the THG article and analysis here

June 7, 2010 8:48:59 PM

If I had $1500 and needed a lot of CPU power for gaming and productivity, I'd do this:

MOBO & CPU: Intel core i7 930 and ASUS P6T
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
-$505

PSU and GPU: Antec Earthwatts 750 and GTX 470
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
-$420

RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Redline DDR3 6 GB 6-8-6-24 @ 1600 MHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-$220 (-$30 rebate)

HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 500 GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-$55

Case: Cooler Master HAF 922
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-$90

DVD Drive: Asus
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-$22

That's $1297 after $30 mail-in-rebate and before shipping. You could add more hard drives with the extra $200. Someone might also suggest you go 1156 and save enough to get an SSD in the build.
June 7, 2010 8:56:33 PM

vios said:
Thanks for all the suggestions...I looked up the X58 on Newegg and many arrive damaged due to the manufacturer's packaging. Also No BIOS walk-thru guide in book or on the provided CD. This could pose a problem since this will be my first build. Are my concerns valid?


These problems wouldn't be exclusive to the x58 platform. And the chances of your parts being damaged upon arrival aren't any greater either. Guides to BIOS configuration can be found online many times over for any model of motherboard you end up buying.
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