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One GPU, 12GB RAM: i7-930 a waste of money?

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August 10, 2010 12:37:45 AM

Hi! I'm trying to decide between the i7-930 and i7-860.

Both appear to be excellent chips, the latter being on a dead socket type.

I don't really care about so-called "future-proofing" or upgradability, since using the PC for 5-7 years would make it obsolete anyway.

I do care about performance in the present however.

I plan to purchase one GPU and 12GB of RAM. I think it will be sufficient for my use.

I do Photoshop work and want to explore/learn video editing soon (hence the RAM).

So from my understanding, the 930 has better multi- GPU support, supports RAM with triple channel.

But I'm wondering if I never buy two GPU's and never go beyond 12GB of RAM (I think this will be plenty!) if the 930 would just be a waste of money?

Interestingly, the chips are priced the same, but the 930 motherboards are about $100 more.

Do you think it will be a waste of a hundred bucks for such computer setup (1 GPU 12GB RAM) or will spending the extra $100 be a better investment? I'm not comprehending what advantage I can get from the 930 and the 1366/X58 socket if I never have multiple video cards or have an insane amount of RAM.
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August 10, 2010 12:44:27 AM

If you dont plan on gaming much, may i make your life slightly more complicated and recommend the AMD 1090T. It doesnt shine in gaming, but is extremely good in video editing, modeling, basically what you described. To boot, you get even more future proofing you were talking about with the 930, and the cheaper motherboards of the 860. And i doubt 12 gigs is very necessary, however if 8 gigs isnt enough, which it is, you can always get 16 :D  Also, AM3 lies somewhere between the 2 with multi gpu. More lanes than P55, less than X58, although it doesnt matter much, as there are very little performance gains from x8 to x16.
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August 10, 2010 12:53:20 AM

Thanks for the response. I don't plan on gaming (although I'll probably try out StarCraft 2 one day for nostalgia :)  ).

I'll have to check out that AMD chip it sounds like a good in between one.

Honestly, I didn't even consider AMD for this build because everywhere I read everyone was praising the core i7 chip and made AMD look like they were behind, but what you describe sounds good to me!
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August 10, 2010 1:00:06 AM

Also, AM3 will be compatible with AMD's next line up, which will be bulldozer, and it looks to be very good, not much info though. 1366 you will only be able to upgrade to the 980x or variant.
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August 10, 2010 11:15:47 AM

ares1214 said:
Also, AM3 will be compatible with AMD's next line up, which will be bulldozer, and it looks to be very good, not much info though. 1366 you will only be able to upgrade to the 980x or variant.

again AMD........ :cry: 
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August 10, 2010 11:44:52 AM

What? If he said gaming, id say i7, but he said video editing. i7>1090T in gaming, 1090T>i7 in video editing, but in real world applications, you wont be able to tell the difference. Its a fact, AMD has an upgrade path, intel doesnt, doesnt mean he will use it, not everybody upgrades, but its a VERY important thing to think about.
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August 10, 2010 1:23:41 PM

Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H / Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1333: $377

I'd suggest starting with 8gb (which is a 'bunch') and see how you like it ---- then focus on your disk I/O:

Drive #1 - OS/Apps: Need a SSD but may want to wait a few months to see how 25-nand shakes out
Drives #2 & #3 - 'Capture/Scratch' & 'Output/Storage': 2 x Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB @ $55/each

You could find a nice, big 'TB' hard drive on sale if the budget permits for ultimate backup/storage.

As far as the video card, it's also a little 'wait and see'. Adobe support for ATI GPU processing is supposed to roll in Q4, and you may want to research which filters/plugins you use the most that are going to work with which video cards the best.

I'm also of the opinion that the difference between the 1090T and 1055T, depending upon your workflow, may not be so substantial as to spend an extra $100 for it. So ... here is a Phenom 1055T / Radeon HD 4650 512MB combo for $221 after rebate.

The HD4650 should push your monitor(s) with no problems --- you could actually push an additional 2 monitors with the IGP on the 890gx mobo. When you are ready to transition to BD Zambezi, you can move the 1055T to a dedicated encoding box for your video exploits (even on an AM2+ platform with DDR2 if need be ... ).







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August 10, 2010 4:37:40 PM

ares1214 said:
What? If he said gaming, id say i7, but he said video editing. i7>1090T in gaming, 1090T>i7 in video editing, but in real world applications, you wont be able to tell the difference. Its a fact, AMD has an upgrade path, intel doesnt, doesnt mean he will use it, not everybody upgrades, but its a VERY important thing to think about.

which i7 u r talking? i7 980x??? :whistle: 
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August 10, 2010 4:42:26 PM

I would definetly go for the 1090T, in this case!
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August 10, 2010 4:45:37 PM

just to save money i guess........
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August 10, 2010 5:33:43 PM

Not to save money, the 1090T beats the i7 quads in video editing, modeling, that general use area. Combined with the fact you could get even more RAM for the same price.
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