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June 10, 2010 2:48:18 PM

Hello, I’m looking to build a computer for the first time. The Starcraft 2 beta really inspired me to build my own $1000 computer capable of playing the game on its "ULTRA" setting. However, my primary use for the computer will simply be Internet surfing, watching videos, using MS office (is the 2010 office worth it btw?), and hopefully copying and ripping blu-rays.
I've been doing a lot of research, mostly here and on newegg, and talking to computer savvy friends, who only contradict each other, and came up with this build independently. What I would like to know is do all of the below components work well together, is there any power bottlenecks, and is there any necessary changes or shortcomings in my build, like does the power supply have enough power?


The below build comes for Newegg.com:

HDD: Western Digital 640 GB Caviar Black SATA 7200 $70

CPU/Motherboard: AMD Phenom II X4 965 + MSI 870A-G54 $260

Case: COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black $80

OC: Windows 7 $100

Video Card/Memory: His Radeon HD 5770 + OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 4 GB $260

Power Supply: CORSAIR CMPSU-400CX 400W ATX12V V2.2 $50

CD Drive: Pioneer Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM $185

= $1005

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June 10, 2010 3:03:58 PM

Yeah all looks pretty good, a couple of changes i would make though

HDD Samsung F3 eithe 500gb or 1tb, depending on your needs, as they are the same speed, and alot quieter
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU, get a unit with a higher watage, 400w is a bit low, look for around a 550w unit from a good make, antec, corsair, ocz, seasonic
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You could also save a bit of money on a bluray burner aswel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


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June 10, 2010 3:20:18 PM

Not sure why you want a blue ray burner. Do you actually need one?

Case
HAF 922 $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HD
Spinpoint F3 $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU
5850 $280 comes with free power strip with combo so why not?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

PSU/optical
OCZ 700w 80+ and lite on $86 w/ $20 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

CPU/Mobo
Phenom II x4 955 and GA 790 UD4 $258 w/ $15 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

RAM
Ripjaw 1600 Cas 7 $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS
Win 7 Premium 64 bit $99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $993 before $35 MIR and shipping.

Can throw in a CM Hyper 212 plus for another $30
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPH0/ref=s9_simh...
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June 10, 2010 3:20:41 PM

first of all that build looks ok expect for the mobo and hdd. and bluray drive? its not really neccesary RIGHT NOW.


cpu:amd phenom deneb 955
mobo:GIGABYTE GA-770TA-UD3 AM3
gpu:gtx 470
hdd:samsung f3 1tb
case:haff 922
psu:antec earthwatts watts 650
dvd:cheap dvd
ram:gskill ripjaws 4gb cl7

total:$984.91

i prefer the gtx 470, some people say that 5850 would be better!! BUT! For its price right now. its sits between a 5850 and a 5870 which this card(470) sometimes is faster than 5870. so stick with this card. and u'll run sc2 at ultra settings

and for OS? windows 7 64bit will do

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June 10, 2010 3:21:47 PM

Banthracis' build is excellent. At $1000, for gaming, you should be shooting for an AMD Phenom II/Athlon II and a 5850.

One quick question, do you already have a monitor/keyboard/etc.? If so, what resolution is the monitor?
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June 10, 2010 3:28:58 PM

xurwin said:

total:$984.91

i prefer the gtx 470, some people say that 5850 would be better!! BUT! For its price right now. its sits between a 5850 and a 5870 which this card(470) sometimes is faster than 5870. so stick with this card. and u'll run sc2 at ultra settings

and for OS? windows 7 64bit will do


The 470 is a fine card, but it costs about $75 more than the 5850. Your build (with an OS) is over the OP's listed budget.

You could probably fit the 470 under budget by going with an Athlon II X3 or something, though.
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June 10, 2010 3:37:17 PM

Not sure if OP is OCing or not. If his res is lower than 1920x0180, the athlon II x3 will be a bottleneck w/o an OC. If he does actually do encoding, etc, he'd may be better of with a quad core.

Also wanted him to have a xfire mobo for future upgrade.

But it's hard to do the best build for someone if they don't fill out the sticky.
SO OP, fill it out.
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June 10, 2010 3:39:11 PM

monitor resolution 1440 X 900.
And as far as the blu-ray burner, i GUESS i could wait... What's better about Samsung hdd over WD or Seagate (i know its a never ending argument). And i was looking at a form for first time builders. Do i need this glue stuff to attach my cpu to mobo? or does that come with the package?
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June 10, 2010 3:43:34 PM

Oh and ~$300 graphic card ARE YOU KIDDING ME! Wow i only wanna play SC2 pretty much use my xbox for everything else. And how come i need so much Wattage for my PSU... I'm trying to learn here
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June 10, 2010 3:50:18 PM

1440 X 900 a single GTS 250/HD 5750/HD 4850 could cut it and your project could be concluded at a far lower price point me thinks hehe
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June 10, 2010 3:52:51 PM

If you're staying at 1440x900, then your original selection of a 5770 is fine. Most PC gaming is done at 1680x1050 and up, where the 5770 starts to get a little stressed, and a more expensive graphics card is called for.

700W is a little much for the build as is, but it would allow room for you to add an additional graphics card later and/or add a significant overclock.
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June 10, 2010 3:54:35 PM

Yep HD 5770 config is right - price point though is way wrong for me :p 

+100 for OS
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June 10, 2010 3:56:20 PM

coldsleep said:
The 470 is a fine card, but it costs about $75 more than the 5850. Your build (with an OS) is over the OP's listed budget.

You could probably fit the 470 under budget by going with an Athlon II X3 or something, though.


yeah sorry. i knew i was lacking something. just like you guys said. a 5850 would do fine. but a 5770 would struggle at high resolutions.
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June 10, 2010 6:37:47 PM

Everyone thx so much for the speedy replies. I'm starting to see a trend here, and I am willing to make the following compromises.

Case: WOW the HAF 922 in now a must, sweet case! $90

HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB (since everyone seems to hate WD... or work for Samsung) both got good reviews though $70

CPU/MOBO: AMD Phenom II X4 965 + MSI 870A-G54 $260 (not sure why nobody is feeling this combo... got good reviews) What's so great about gigabyte board? seriously I'm asking, because I don't know

GPU: MSI R5770 Hawk Radeon HD 5770 (how do you feel about it) remember I will only be using for Starcraft 2. $180

Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin (since everyone likes it) $110

Power Supply: OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W ATX12V v2.2 (I like this one, but is it powerful enough?) $65

OS: duh Windows 7 $100

CD/DVD: no preference, cheap i guess.

and ill wait on the blu ray burner for now

$875 build w/o cd/dvd






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June 10, 2010 6:56:36 PM

GA and Asus are the top MOBO makers. GA board we link has dual x8 xfire. MSI has x16/x4.

There are cheaper 5770's.

ASUS $157 w/ $20 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cheapest Reference Design
XFX $169
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Don't need a Phenom II 965, a 955 is $20 cheaper and has the same performance/OC headroom.

That PSU is fine. It'll actually handle xfire 5770's.

Samsung Spinpoint F3 is better performing and cheaper in terms of $ per GB vs WD.
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June 10, 2010 7:16:01 PM

mab664 said:
HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB (since everyone seems to hate WD... or work for Samsung) both got good reviews though $70


It's because there are only three 1 TB drives out that use 500 GB platters (which result in denser data = quicker reads).

The three options are (in no specific order):
1) Samsung Spinpoint F3
2) Seagate 7200.12
3) Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX - only this specific model, the model name ending in FALS uses 3x333ish GB platters

The Western Digital drive is $20-30 more expensive than the others. If it was the same price, it would get more recommendations, I suspect.
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