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June 10, 2010 5:41:25 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: 1 week

BUDGET RANGE: <$1200 Before Rebates

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: none

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: tigerdirect.com

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: U.S

PARTS PREFERENCE: Intel CPU (Based on CPU value guide for 06/10) ASUS or EVGA mobo

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

MONITOR RESOLUTION: >= 1600 * 900

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: While this is for gaming largely I only have COH,
TOTAL WAR, and Civilization V in mind. And a few titles missing on PS3 (splinter cell, mass effect 2) Although Crysis 2 does look interesting…which is why I was opting for something reasonably priced now, which can be easily improved upon for future games. FYI this is my first build and I’m brand spanking new to this. (I just learned yesterday what SLI and Crossfire are :-/ ) So far this is what I have. Any suggestions or advice would be much appreciated.

ASUS P7P55 PRO Motherboard and Corsair Dominator PC10666 RAM Bundle - 4GB, (2x2GB) DDR3, 1333MHz, Intel P55, Socket LGA1156, Core i5, Dual Path, Dual Channel
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Intel Core i5 750 BX80605I5750 Processor - 2.66GHz, LGA 1156, 8MB L3 Cache, Quad-Core, Lynnfield, Retail
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

XFX HD585XZAFC Radeon HD 5850 Video Card - 1GB GDDR5, PCI-Express 2.0, CrossFireX Ready, Dual DVI, Display Port, HDMI
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Western Digital WD5000AAKS Caviar Blue Hard Drive - 500GB, 7200rpm, 16MB, SATA-300, OEM
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Ultra LSP650 650-Watt Power Supply - ATX, SATA-Ready, SLI-Ready, 135mm Fan, Lifetime Warranty
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

XION Vantage Mid-Tower Case AXP100-001BK - ATX, mATX
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advic...

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June 10, 2010 7:12:34 PM

All those parts you listed are awesome, and as far as I know, be compatible with each other. The HD 5850 is a very good card, and will play all the modern games at high settings.
June 10, 2010 7:29:19 PM

1000FPS said:
All those parts you listed are awesome, and as far as I know, be compatible with each other. The HD 5850 is a very good card, and will play all the modern games at high settings.


That's a shocker, being new to this I thought it possible I had unknowingly compiled a list of FAIL :-/ Thnx man, I'm still tinkering though....
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June 10, 2010 7:35:05 PM

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Really? The PSU and case arent the best you can do on a $100 budget.
The Hard-drive is mehh, an Samsung F3 would be much better.

Are you interested in buying at newegg? Sometimes you could get lower prices even if you live in a state which has taxes.


I don't really have a preference in where I shop, I just liked that ram/mobo combo on tigerdirect. I was actually thinking of getting the 5850 from newegg because it seems to be 30 bucks cheaper.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


And I'm neither married to the psu nor the case. Any specific suggestions? I'm kinda flying by the seat of my pantaloons here. Oh and good looking on the samsung F3 which is only on newegg. I think I can spring the extra few bucks, maybe I'll get the GPU and HD from newegg and save a little overall. :-D
June 10, 2010 8:04:59 PM

The Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB is VERY cheap on tigerdirect.
On newegg the two cheapest options that could crossfire that I'd suggest would be the Corsair TX650 or the XFX 650.
June 10, 2010 8:51:16 PM

Silvune said:
The Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB is VERY cheap on tigerdirect.
On newegg the two cheapest options that could crossfire that I'd suggest would be the Corsair TX650 or the XFX 650.



Nice find, that is cheap after the rebate. Before though its stretching it considering all the misc I gotta add like monitor and input devices. This'll definitely be worth looking into when and if I need more HD space. Thnx man.
June 10, 2010 8:53:11 PM

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Sadly even the combo isnt very good, selling overpriced parts at a discount isnt really saving, its just making you feel good.

Here:
i5-750: $200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS P7P55D EVO: $165
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ripjaws + Antec EA650W $180
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

5850 Twin Frozr + HAF 922: $380
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Samsung F3: $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $980 shipped before $35 MIR.

You could opt out for a GTX470 for the same price, but it will run horribly hot and use crazy power compared to a 5850.


Looks good, I took the case and psu ram suggestion but went with the xfx 5850 since it's a chunk cheaper than the MSI 5850
June 10, 2010 9:02:12 PM

Silvune said:
The Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB is VERY cheap on tigerdirect.
On newegg the two cheapest options that could crossfire that I'd suggest would be the Corsair TX650 or the XFX 650.


This tx650 does look interesting too... with a 5850 am I going to need crossfire anywhere in the near future?
June 10, 2010 9:11:06 PM

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The MSI is the same price as thhe XFX with the combo. Why not?


The same case at 89.99 with the xfx at 279 is 369 as opposed to the 379 combo. It's a $10 difference or roughly 50 Wendy's nuggets. Not to mention it comes with a free flash drive and power strip :-/
June 10, 2010 9:23:35 PM

buddafucofibas said:
This tx650 does look interesting too... with a 5850 am I going to need crossfire anywhere in the near future?
No, not at that resolution. However if you have any interest in upping your resolution at some point then it would be wise IMO to keep the option of crossfire open, and therefore it might be better to get a PSU that can support crossfire straight away rather than have to replace one later. Otherwise a good 550W PSU, if it saves you money, would be the best option.
June 10, 2010 9:23:41 PM

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Nice price, but I doubt you can get a tigerdirect rebate, their track record on rebates are notoriously bad. They still owe me $20 on a IDE drive.
Heres another good deal, same price as the pre-rebate seagate. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Thanks for that rebate tidbit, first time I've heard that and I'm glad I did...they usually are a pain in the arse. This 1tb F3 don't look to0 bad though.
June 10, 2010 9:37:52 PM

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You could opt out for a GTX470 for the same price, but it will run horribly hot and use crazy power compared to a 5850.


There are advantages to be considered from the greater efficiencies but let's put things in perspective.

ATI 5850 - 41C at idle / 77 under load
nVidia 470 - 44C at idle / 92 under load
ATI 4870x2 - 87C at idle / 98 under load

ATI 5850 - 174W at idle / 282 under load
470 - 185W at idle / 364under load

Kinda like the change you see when overclocking your CPU. If you are going to argue against the 470 based upon heat and power consumption, you are going to have to also argue against overclocking.

Let's look at the power cost .... assume 20 hours of full tilt full load and 20 hours of web browsing and light duty

Wattage difference per week = (20 * 11) + 20 (82) = 1860 watt-hrs per week

1860 watt-hrs / 1000 watts per kw * $0.10 per kwhr * 4 weeks per month / 85% PSU Eff. = $0.88 per month.

Certainly one must have a case which provides adequate cooling the the temp load. But 90C temps are nothing new. The power issue requires an appropriately sized PSU but I don't think 88 cents a month is going to deter anyone.

What will matter more is what resolution you play at.....for example many benchmarks favor ATI at 1650 res while at 1920 the same bench favors nVidia. Also what version of DX11 ?....DX11 and hi settings test favor nViida while DX9/10 seems to favor ATI tho this is changing. Is the extra $30-50 extra purchase costs and 88 cents a month power costs worth an average 21% increase in minimum frame rates ? I imagine that answer will vary from user to user more based upon resolution and games being played than power costs or temperature.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...

The issues of temp and power relate simply to can your case handle it and can your PSU handle it. You'd not going to go out and get a second job to cover the increased use of electricity and Air Conditioning/
June 10, 2010 9:48:00 PM

An i5-750 1156 chipset build gonna cost you $1100[/b] w/ all top end components....TX PSU OK for twin GFX cards...Upgrade to HX750 (extra $40) if doing serious OC's.

$90 CM HAF 922 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$90 Corsair TX750 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$370 ASUS P7P55D-E Pro w/ Intel i5-750 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

$105 2 x 2GB Corsair DDR3-1600 CAS 7 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$80 Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$35 Scythe 2100 cpu COOLER http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$6 OCZ Freeze http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$310 XFX HD-585X-ZNFV Radeon HD 5850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$25 Any DVD Burner

Total $1111

The GFX Card is way overkill for your resolution ...you could get by w/ a 5770 .....but since you still have money left, I'd upgrade to a 470 for $40 extra but it's easy to make a case for either card.
$350 ASUS ENGTX470/2DI/1280MD5 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If considering SLI i the future, upgrade to an 850 watt PSU
June 10, 2010 10:10:01 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
An i5-750 1156 chipset build gonna cost you $1100 w/ all top end components....TX PSU OK for twin GFX cards...Upgrade to HX750 (extra $40) if doing serious OC's.

$90 CM HAF 922 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$90 Corsair TX750 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$370 ASUS P7P55D-E Pro w/ Intel i5-750 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

$105 2 x 2GB Corsair DDR3-1600 CAS 7 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$80 Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$35 Scythe 2100 cpu COOLER http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$6 OCZ Freeze http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$310 XFX HD-585X-ZNFV Radeon HD 5850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$25 Any DVD Burner

Total $1111

The GFX Card is way overkill for your resolution ...you could get by w/ a 5770 .....but since you still have money left, I'd upgrade to a 470 for $40 extra but it's easy to make a case for either card.
$350 ASUS ENGTX470/2DI/1280MD5 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If considering SLI i the future, upgrade to an 850 watt PSU
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I actually think i'm gonna go with a minimum 1920*1080 res now that i think of it.
June 11, 2010 3:53:27 AM

Thanks a ton to everyone who posted. I gotta review all of this and I guess ultimately figure out whether or not I'm gonna xfire in the future so I can select the appropriate psu. Don't really know who I should select for best answer though since I don't really know what the hell is going on... some tips on that would be helpful too :-/ Although as of now I am leaning towards timop. I don't know how this works, am I gonna get my balls busted for selecting the wrong best answer???
June 11, 2010 3:54:33 AM

Oh and another question, how much should customer reviews count whenever I'm looking at a particular part??
June 11, 2010 7:10:35 PM

Best answer selected by buddafucofibas.
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